Yesterday at the USPRO Championships in Philly, I noticed that the Treks on top of the USPS team car were fitted with the old octalink Dura Ace cranks, not the new ones (which are really sweet- I got a good look at them at the Shimano tent). Wonder why- I mean they were using the 2004 stuff at last years tour already.
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06-07-2004, 11:08 AM #1
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Interesting observation
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06-07-2004, 11:33 AM #2
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It's because the new 7800 cranks are ugly...I wouldn't put that shit on my bike.
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06-07-2004, 03:09 PM #3
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Yeah, I thought they were ugly at first too, but now that I've been able to get a good look at them, I kind of like them. Still not as pretty as the Record cranks, though.
"There is a hell of a huge difference between skiing as a sport- or even as a lifestyle- and skiing as an industry"
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06-07-2004, 04:49 PM #4
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There's a review in the current Velonews in which a couple of cracker jack mechanics discuss the pros and cons of the latest Record and Dura Ace gruppos. There was a sidebar on what these guys raced/trained on. I think there was some comment on the new Dura Ace crankset, but I forgot what it was.
I recently got a FSA carbon crank and love it.Your dog just ate an avocado!
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06-07-2004, 05:14 PM #5
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I can't answer the crank question, but having Viva's avatar on the same page twice is really disturbing.
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06-07-2004, 07:16 PM #6
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Press the Stop button on your browser (or hit the Escape key) and everything will be alright.Originally posted by InspectorGadget
I can't answer the crank question, but having Viva's avatar on the same page twice is really disturbing.
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06-07-2004, 08:53 PM #7
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My hero.Originally posted by phUnk
Press the Stop button on your browser (or hit the Escape key) and everything will be alright.
What a computer JONG I must be.
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06-07-2004, 10:01 PM #8
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My avatar has suggested that possible reasons for the Posties eschewing the new 7800 cranks are: the thin big ring may be prone to failure under heavy (i.e., steep climbs or hard sprinting) loads and the new compression loaded bottom bracket design results in drag.
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06-08-2004, 07:28 AM #9
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Or,
Hmm, Viva-cious, why wouldn't they have noticed that in the TdF last year?
I am sneakingly suspicious that this is Shimmy-ano's last-ditch effort to convince the laughing masses: No! Octalink is NOT an orphan standard - Look (uh) even Sugino is going to support it! ]
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06-08-2004, 09:02 AM #10
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Re: Or,
Maybe they did and that's why they're going back to what works better- I don't know. Isn't the Tour where the new gruppo was first unveiled last year?Originally posted by cantunamunch
Hmm, Viva-cious, why wouldn't they have noticed that in the TdF last year? [/i]]Your dog just ate an avocado!
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06-08-2004, 10:59 AM #11
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Re [2] Or
Indeedy, underneath the best, possibly strongest climber they could get.
I am not (yet) persuaded that it's a technical problem. I could be persuaded to think the reasoning is any of:
A) It might just make the lives of mechanics that much easier, especially if they're swopping out SRMs and compact doubles twice a week. (IS there a 7800 compact double?)
B) It might be good PR on Shimano's part, try to get Ritchey or whomever else onboard cruiseship OCTALINK before they inflict outboard bearing races and pseudo-cotters on 105.
C) 7800 as it stands might just be a marketing game holding action, until shift-by-electronics to match Campy's one.
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06-09-2004, 11:53 AM #12
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Re: Interesting observation
Sorry to hijack, but that warrants a full-on trip report thread...Originally posted by Plakespear
Yesterday at the USPRO Championships in Philly, I noticed...
Would love to hear the lowdown from a spectator's viewpoint -- the press reports are always too clinical in tone and don't really convey the full experience, I think.
Post pics, too, if'n you got any!
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06-09-2004, 12:35 PM #13
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Re: Re: Interesting observation
TR will be posted as soon as I get the film back from the lab tomorrow. Shot 2 rolls of film- should be at few good shots in there.Originally posted by Innominatus
Sorry to hijack, but that warrants a full-on trip report thread...
Would love to hear the lowdown from a spectator's viewpoint -- the press reports are always too clinical in tone and don't really convey the full experience, I think.
Post pics, too, if'n you got any!"There is a hell of a huge difference between skiing as a sport- or even as a lifestyle- and skiing as an industry"
Hunter S. Thompson, 1970 (RIP)
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