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Thread: WY/MT Elk Hunting

  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    Either use stock to get further into the backcountry or be prepared to hike like a beast. Get away from all the hunter pressure at the trailheads and ATV accessible places.
    true dat. haven't had a shot at an Elk in 15+ years, haven't hunted the last 5 but they are getting harder to get too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yonskion View Post
    Is really a criminal act or just really bad karma.
    Please post law.... harassment or molestation of wildlife would not work.... just curious about the crime part.
    Do a quick search for hunter harassment.
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    ^^^^^^

    I'm sure the penalties are pale in comparison to the crimes that would be committed by the hunter against the body of anyone who tried.
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    I'm in the UK...and even I know that www.accuratereloading.com is the place to go and ask all about this.

    One day I will join you, but i'll bring (or borrow) a rifle.
    Bowhunting is illegal in the UK (really not sure why) but plenty of rifle hunting for deer....actually much more than in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rungsp View Post
    ..... plenty of rifle hunting for deer....actually much more than in the US.

    Wha!?! Unpossible.

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    5 species.
    Overlapping seasons which means it is legal almost entire year.
    No tag sysytem at all.
    No limits on how many you can take.
    The whole country is flippin infested with deer. All free ranging, no fences at all (well there are standard livestock fences on farms...but deer don't care about those).

    As an example a group of friends that I know have an annual stalking long-weekend. This year between 20 of them they had 62 deer on a 10,000 acre estate. The landowners were delighted!

    You do need landowners permission and that can be tough to get unless you are willing to pay, but £100 a day with a very high % chance of success would be easily done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonskion View Post
    I'm sure the penalties are pale in comparison
    Dumass moran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yonskion View Post
    Elk are just lying around on the ground if you know where to look.
    I found this winter kill score's 380's. My wife makes me keep it in the garage. Killing animals for there horns is for JONGASS. I have found and sold 1000's lbs. of Elk antlers over the years. I have a private stash that has some 400+ Bull Elk Sheds Matched and Unmatched sets. I spent years walking around the remote corners of MT/WY and you should leave those Elk alone they have a hard enough life since the Wolves. Enjoy the backcounrty and respect other beings. If any Tourist Out of Staters that must shoot, eat it and take the mid-sized over populated Bulls leave the big ones... call MT/WY F.W.P. and ask about the special 1st time tourist Yellowstone Tags then you'll have a shot at a keeper
    If you found that in wyoming you picked it up illegally. Unless there is a G&F tag on that mount that we cannot see. Picking up a skull w/ antlers still attached is against regulations and punishable. You must report it and get permission. then they will tag the skull/antlers. I'll bet MT has a similar reg.

    As for wyoming law regarding interfering with a legal hunt, see below.

    23-3-405. Interference with lawful taking of wildlife prohibited; penalties; damages; injunction.



    (a) No person shall with the intent to prevent or hinder the lawful taking of any wildlife:



    (i) Interfere with the lawful taking of or the process of lawfully taking any wildlife;



    (ii) Engage in any activity intended to threaten or otherwise affect the behavior of any wildlife.



    (b) A violation of subsection (a) of this section constitutes a low misdemeanor as punishable as provided in W.S. 23-6-202(a)(v).



    (c) Any person failing to obey an order of any peace officer to immediately desist from conduct in violation of subsection (a) of this section is guilty of a high misdemeanor punishable as provided in W.S. 23-6-202(a)(ii).



    (d) Any organization or association which counsels or solicits its members or others to violate subsection (a) of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00). Each subsequent violation of this subsection shall be punishable by a fine of not more than fifty thousand dollars ($50,000.00).



    (e) In addition to penalties imposed under this section, any person who has suffered injury by reason of the conduct of any person violating this section is entitled to recover damages in a civil action. Actual damages recoverable may include, but are not limited to expenditures for licenses, travel, outfitters and guides and special equipment and supplies to the extent the expenditures are rendered futile by the person's conduct in violation of this section. If the trier of fact finds that the unlawful conduct was malicious, it may award punitive damage to the injured party.



    (f) Upon petition to the district court by any affected party and upon a showing that conduct in violation of this section is threatened or has occurred and under similar circumstances would likely reoccur, the court may enjoin conduct which would be in violation of this section.



    (g) This section shall:



    (i) Not apply to any land lessee, permittee or any employee thereof engaged in the performance of work-related activities;



    (ii) Not apply to any landowner or his agent engaged in any activity on his own private property.



    (h) As used in subsection (a) of this section, "process of lawfully taking" means travel, camping and other acts preparatory to taking wildlife if occurring on lands or water upon which the affected person may legally take the wildlife.
    as for the original subject of this thread: Be aware that if you plan to hunt in a wilderness area, you must have a guide, by law/regs.
    Last edited by LaramieSkiBum; 04-18-2008 at 09:41 AM.

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    ^^^^^ So! ^^^^^

    I found it on private property walking home from your Mom's
    I would not trade my experience or knowledge for anything and I'll do it again. If I told you what I have seen and know......you would not believe me. Maybe I'll write a book someday. Shed season is upon us now. What is the price per pound this year on Big Brown Horns?
    As for Hunter Harassment 1st violation $150.00.....I wonder if it's like the old speeding tickets payable in cash at the time of violation?
    Last edited by yonskion; 04-18-2008 at 11:20 AM.
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    Look up Lost Fork Ranch.
    If they're still taking new clients you'll be helping out in-laws of the family of a Maggot. In fact a think you might directly be helping said Maggots family since his brother might be guiding for said in-laws.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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