Squaw closing shop early, don't like it? say something.

[Terpski]

The fact that Squaw can charge so much for season passes and then decide to stop spinnin' chairs this early is fucking outrageous. I know that there isn't much snow in the forecast but there is plenty of good spring skiing left. If any one feels the same as I do, you shouldn't go unheard. Fucking say some thing! It's easy. Use email. Drop a note in one of the comment boxes around the Village. Go to any one who looks like they carry some sort of authority and then ask who their boss is and complain to them. IF WE KEEP QUIET THEN THIS WILL BECOME THE NORM.

Headwall is now only running on the weekends, it's only April 8th!! I would be pissed if I only had a mid week pass.

[SuperGaper]

Welcome to the world of ski economics. My pass is more expensive and my season is shorter. Of course my skiing is better but the fact of the matter is my hill is now closed and there is 3 feet of base at the bottom.
Oh well.
Passholders, while appreciated more than you think, do not pay the bills. When the hordes from the Bay Area and Sacramento stop coming, the lifts stop running.
I am pissed though, because I have to go to SF on 4/21 and want to ski a bit. Last year I had all day storm skiing at Alpine around that time so maybe we will get it again.
Skins cost around a hundred dollars and then you can ski some more though skinning/hiking sounds a lot more tiring than riding lifts.

[enlosandes]

Terpski, if you think complaining to Squaw's management (Ski Corp) will do anything, I am afraid you are sadly mistaken. They don't give a shit, never had, and never will. I would expend your energy elsewhere, like on a skintrack.

[pappag]

Earn it.

[powdork]

not spending $1,700 there for a pass will get there attention if enough do it. but that couldn't change anything til next year.

i typically hit squaw (and buy tix) about twice a year, and it's always after the south shore resorts close. guess i won't be doing that this year.


if i bought a spring pass prior to their announcing the closing date, i would demand my money back, or at least part of it. making them fork out cash is the best way to get their attention.


edit-if they did sell spring passes prior to announcing the closing date, file a class action lawsuit on behalf of those that purchased the spring pass. even if their is no follow through, it will generate negative publicity

[Ottime]

i typically hit squaw (and buy tix) about twice a year, and it's always after the south shore resorts close. guess i won't be doing that this year.

I usually do the same thing. Guess it will be an earn my turns spring season.

I actually emailed them a week ago to confirm closing dates. No reply.

[guermo]

Yeah weird. Headwall closing before KT is new.... not good.

[jahroy]

i wrote an email the day they closed headwall. i'll hit up the comment boxes now that you mention it.

i'm basically talking with everyone i ride the chair with about this.... saying we should all put it in the pass holder surveys and squawk to anyone who'll listen (not like cunts, tho).

i personally don't ski much in may (go back to work next week), but the early closing day worries me too. i don't like the precedent. if they're closing the mtn early and closing headwall early, the next step is KT.

really the only thing i care about is that KT goes until it's impossible to ski, and the patrol has done a pretty good job of making that happen the last couple years. last year they announced april 8th as the closing day, then kept it open an extra week when it snowed. that shows me they're trying and i appreciate the shit out of that.

really, the headwall thing isn't so bad. as much as i view sibo as a worthless chair, reverse traverse only takes a couple minutes. you can still lap headwall face, hogsback, and north bowl. silvy was closed last week, and as a result was outrageous this weekend. obviously headwall on friday will be the same scenario.

you can't blame them for making a difference in value between the mid-week pass and the full pass... that's kinda the whole idea. as far as i'm concerned a full pass vs a mid-week is a no-brainer. the weekends aren't so bad if you're not trying to have a bad attitude, and weekends are better than weekdays come this time of year.

yeah, yeah, yeah.... skins blah blah blah. we know about that, but we wanna make laps! i'll hike KT when i have to, but would rather rip it 5 times an hour until absolutely necessary.

[jahroy]

Yeah weird. Headwall closing before KT is new.... not good.

headwall closing before KT is not new... it's actually standard.

the closing dates were announced a long time ago. i think they've been posted on this site several times starting 2-3 weeks ago.

if you buy a spring pass you get your value in 2.5 days.... gee, you'd only get a minimum of 5 weeks of skiing if you bought it around the time they went on sale. what a horrible deal! we could still get a dump or two and see the dates pushed back.

i'll tell you what sucks: the early closing date is because of the fact that alpine is closing on may 4th. if gayCorp was keeping them open longer, then squaw would stay open longer to compete and we'd all be stoked with the usual memorial day party.

[guermo]

headwall closing before KT is not new... it's actually standard.

No. KT and Headwall have closed the same day for the last ten years. Except for 2003-4 when they kept KT open the last few weekends of the year into may?

[jahroy]

really? i don't remember it that way, but i could certainly be remembering incorrectly. my bad.

that was sick in '04 when it was open with the little 1 foot wide by 200 foot long in-run into the maze. gnar all the way to the chair!

[ski_rick]

I have to admit I have mixed feelings about the "early" closing. This is my 4th season in Tahoe and I enjoyed the Memorial Day lift served skiing tradition I had started my first two seasons. But I also understand these are businesses (businesses that don't always show their love for their customers as it is). I was skiing mid-week at Squaw last season one of the last couple weeks they were open and an employee told me there was 30 something skiers the day before. You're business isn't making money off that!

Fact is, even with an "early" closing Alpine and Squaw are open later then 99% of the resorts out there. But it sure would be "cooler" if they were staying open through May (and I probably would have bought a spring pass at one or both, instead this year I'll just ski Heavenly to the 4th, props to them for staying open "late" this year, and hit up Craigs list or eBay for a couple cheap vouchers to ski Squaw closing weekend).

Tahoe needs to do something to promote the fact that there is still great skiing to do in late April and May, something to keep everyone coming up for the weekends. Maybe a big Spring Bash like Whistler, get some big name music acts playing at Squaw, have a snow/water ski competition (snow ski in the AM, water ski in the afternoon), topless sun bathing on the Alpine deck. Turn Memorial Day weekend into a busy weekend rather then an afterthought up here.

Of course, as a local who loves to skin, I have no real issue with the lifts closing, I've still got lots of skiing to do this season (I think the Chutes at Rose are even more fun when you skin up/car shuttle to them after the resort closes). It's nice to get "our mountains" back from the tourons for a couple months. But I do think it would be great for all the businesses here if more was done to promote Tahoe as a late spring ski destination.

[Schralps McGnar]

It is because Nancy hates you

[skimasterflex]

Squaw is bullshit all around. You rich folk deserve what you get for supporting such an evil nature hating empire.

[pistol]

It is because Nancy hates you

Finally the truth comes out

[Jim S]

A. Has Squaw announced a closing date? Rumor yes; fact?

2. Bitch all you want but Alpine and Rose are completely closed before Squaw. Some resorts in Colorado are closing next week in April.

iii. If you dont' like it don't buy a pass. I have a season pass and more than broke even on it. It's not as cheap as other Sierra resort passes but those resorts aren't Squaw (with it's good and bad attributes).

Lastly, Nancy loves you. She moaned it to me herself while I was going down on her.


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[pistol]

Yes, it's a fact, the pass is still worth it, and good god. . .

[jahroy]

Squaw is bullshit all around. You rich folk deserve what you get for supporting such an evil nature hating empire.

this makes me laugh.

get what we deserve? oh yeah, absolutely incredible skiing year after year.

us rich folk..... i'd be surprised if anyone on this site was as poor as me. i have absolutely no money right now. just sold a pair of skis on this site yesterday for money to live off for the next two weeks.

the money i spend on my squaw pass is a large percentage of my minimal income and it is worth every penny. it is by far the best money i spend every year.

edit: if you bought a spring pass you could get 40+ days for $179. that sounds like class action material to me!

[jahroy]

as usual, the only people bitching about squaw are those who don't ski there.

with the exception of Terpski (who started this thread) i don't see any squaw riders bitching on this thread, just discussing.

i can't believe i'm typing right now and not making turns.... see ya!

[muted]

Man, you guys are self-defeating and negative.

"They'll never listen"
"Other resorts are already closed"
"It's a good business decision"
"Go to the backcountry and earn it"

There's no harm in trying, and dropping a quick email isn't that hard.

[woodsskier]

Everyone knows Squaw will be for sale soon. We should form a plan that will ensure Squaw is managed properly when purchased. Look at Mad River Glenn....a few years ago when it was facing bad financial times, the MRG faithful banded together and basically purchased the mountain. A lot of people are committed to skiing Squaw, face it, it's one of the best ski hills in North America. If you think about how much people like Jim S will spend in season passes there for them selves, and their kids over the next 15-20 years, that is a lot of scratch. If people were organized and could each come up with $25,000 (no bitching about being a broke Tahoe ski bum here please, that's not the point), an ownership/management arrangement could easily be made that would allow the resort to be run by committee, that answers to the "share holders". A benefit of being a share holder would be a lifetime pass. During good years, share holders could even be paid out dividends. Just my $.02. Feel free to shoot away....

[RaccoonFace]

Everyone knows Squaw will be for sale soon. We should form a plan that will ensure Squaw is managed properly when purchased... If people were organized and could each come up with $25,000 (no bitching about being a broke Tahoe ski bum here please, that's not the point), an ownership/management arrangement could easily be made that would allow the resort to be run by committee, that answers to the "share holders". A benefit of being a share holder would be a lifetime pass. During good years, share holders could even be paid out dividends. Just my $.02. Feel free to shoot away....

I'm in! Seriously. I'm in.

okbye

[VC]

Squaw is bullshit all around. You rich folk deserve what you get for supporting such an evil nature hating empire.

I bought a spring pass with 179 dollars, you're right I must be rich.

And squaw was given A by the Ski Area Citizens Coalition for its environmental practices (Unlike kirkwood that got a F)

[Jim S]

I'm in! Seriously. I'm in.

okbye

That's 75k right there as I know someone else who'd pop 25k.

That's enough to purchase a closet in the village.

[yippeekiyayMF]

That's 75k right there as I know someone else who'd pop 25k.

That's enough to purchase a closet in the village.

well then we got $125K cause me and the little lady are in.