Phish Phinished!

[Clack]

Originally posted by Pinner

From my perspective

It's just the altitude up on that box getting to your head.

[schuss]

BUT WHERE WILL ALL THE HIPPIES GO NOW?


I have enjoyed their music, but I think they've pretty much worked phish as much as they could.

[Pinner]

HA! You guys crack me up.

A friend sent me an email saying, "Best and worst news I've heard in a long time."

I loved the band and felt like I was part of their steady rise to fortune and fame. We shared a suburban East Coast upbringing and also shared a few bong hits on basement couches. Just a couple of ordinary, esoteric, misunderstood white boys doing what they liked and making a few bucks in the process. I still enjoy the music immensely, though the puppy-dragging, kind veggie-hawking, nitrous hippies I can do without.

Really it is better to fade with grace than to repetitively go through the motions to appease the status quo. Just look at "The Dead." It would have been so much more dignified if the surviving band members simply let it go and moved on with solo projects, collaborating from time to time and injecting new life into their old truisms. But instead they're playing what, like NINE shows at Red Rocks and running publicity ad nauseum on Clear Channel stations? Next thing you know The Dead will be up for a Grammy. No thanks, I've had enough.


The Phish said it themselves several years ago... "Waiting for the time when I can finally say that this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way."

Vaya con dios, fokkers. Thanks for a wild ride.

[warthog]

Originally posted by Woodsy


after the riot @ red rocks I never went back.

That's what killed it for me too. Their best stuff was before that anyway.

[Woodsy]

Originally posted by warthog
That's what killed it for me too. Their best stuff was before that anyway.

so true,
look at their last ever set list. even they knew it

Soul Shakedown Party, Halley's Comet > Tweezer, Ginseng Sullivan, Horn, Sample in a Jar, Piper -> Frankenstein, David Bowie

2: Meatstick, Pebbles and Marbles > Prince Caspian -> Simple > Friday, Ghost, You Enjoy Myself -> Tweezer Reprise

E: Wolfman's Brother, The Squirming Coil

[tibaher]

Just what is it exactly about the band you all hate so much?
Never been moved by a Divided Sky?
Never appreciated some of their covers such as Boogie on Reggae Woman, Frankenstein or Roses Are Free?
Never sung along to Maybe So? I propose that-most-of you who can answer no to that have never been to a show.
I'm interested to know what you all think about Mike's Bass solos, or Fishman's drumming skills? What about those suck so much? Page is a very talented keyboardist and Trey is a very good songwriter.

This band started out barely knowing how to play Proud Mary at dorm parties to selling out stadiums accross the country and Europe as well. Not that that is a measure of greatness, or even a standard of success, but c'mon people, curb the hate.

I even felt like they started to sell out with the Live Phish releases, but I still bought some, and many of my friends have enjoyed them as gifts, and always will for what they are worth. A solid band that musically appealed to many generations of music afficionados and played with talent and enthusiasm for more that two decades~ will always have a soft spot in my heart.

Also what's with the GD bashing/comparing?
Phish never tried to be the Dead.
Period.

Anyway, most of you already know I liked Phish a lot.
I gotta put this out there for those who care
peace
"Last Friday night, I got together with Mike, Page and Fish to talk openly about the strong feelings I've been having that Phish has run its course and that we should end it now while it's still on a high note.

Once we started talking, it quickly became apparent that the other guys' feelings, while not all the same as mine, were similar in many ways -- most importantly, that we all love and respect Phish and the Phish audience far too much to stand by and allow it to drag on beyond the point of vibrancy and health. We don't want to become caricatures of ourselves, or worse yet, a nostalgia act. By the end of the meeting, we realized that after almost twenty-one years together we were faced with the opportunity to graciously step away in unison, as a group, united in our friendship and our feelings of gratitude.

So Coventry will be the final Phish show. We are proud and thrilled that it will be in our home state of Vermont. We're also excited for the June and August shows, our last tour together. For the sake of clarity, I should say that this is not like the hiatus, which was our last attempt to revitalize ourselves. We're done. It's been an amazing and incredible journey. We thank you all for the love and support that you've shown us.



-- Trey Anastasio"

[tibaher]

oh yeah...
take it to the music forum

[Pinner]

Originally posted by tibaher
oversensitive blah blah blah

Relax, Francis.

Don't take it so personally. Phish sure wouldn't.

[tibaher]

hey I don't take anything personal here.
especially not peoples musical tastes...
Just curious why so many hate so much, that's all

[danimal's dead]

It's not cool to like any band or musical performer around here, it's only cool to bash. A few people wanna pour out a little liquor for Kurt Cobain and the thread gets hijacked into an unreadable 5 page rant by people stuck in the 70's. Somebody says widespread rocked on halloween and we have to read fifteen posts by people who have nothing to say but "I hate jambands," I know what they mean, but what good live band doesn't jam.

Thanks for the memories guys. Phish phorever, rock on.

Top 5 live acts I'd like to see tonight, limited to living, active performers.

1. Widespread
2. Outkast, with big boi and dre'
3. Phish
4. The Roots
5. #5 would be a whole bunch of bluegrass artists, and I can't pick one

[gimpy]

bummer. super glad we went to the last vegas shows. "sneakin sally through the alley" was one of the best single song performances i've seen which is a bunch having grown up in vermont. remiscent of a smokin 2nd set shakedown, cosmic orgasms and all. as luck would have it our good friend, the head light guy, and our constant ticket/pass connect just got fired for reasons of nobody's business here right before the vegas gigs. fortunately the band still hooked us up even though he wasn't even there. we were saying that those would prolly be our last phish shows cause of that, but i guess we were all too prophetic. great tight band of good wholesome friendly people and i will surely miss them. in the words of the fat man....."thank you................for a real good time!!!!

[jayfrizzo]

Fugazi is the best jam band ever.

I think I'm going to drink a bottle or 2 of wine tonight and go dirt jumping in the morning. Cause I'm so fucking core.

No one played a vacuum cleaner like that dude.

[warthog]

Originally posted by tibaher
hey I don't take anything personal here.
especially not peoples musical tastes...
Just curious why so many hate so much, that's all

NO hate here. Except maybe for some of their fans.

I started listening to Phish in college. We went to a show at Hobart&William Smith College. It was a fun road trip, and we randomly happened to be standing near the ticket window when they opened it up. We got the last 2 tickets(2 out of 6 didn't have tickets). The venue held about 300 people. It was a fun show, and I really liked the band.

Fast forward- 1996(97?) Living in Boulder,CO. I hear Phish is coming to Red Rocks- try to get tickets, with no success. We hear the next day that they had to call out the riot squad, and a bunch of people trashed people's cars and property. All that cause they couldn't get into a sold out show. Not right, and glad I wasn't there.

Something changed, and it wasn't the band's fault. The vibe of The Dead fans was different than the Phish fans. I didn't like that vibe. It was the same self-righteous hippy nonsense that made me uncomfortable on Pearl Street sometimes. I can't explain it. I guess it is just a vibe that if you aren't into all the same shit as those people, then "you just don't get it man". Does that make any sense?

I guess that is what killed the Phish experience for me. I still do like a lot of their older tunes though.

[Benny Profane]

damn, they were supposed to play SPAC for a few days. I was looking foward to trolling for hippie girls that weekend.

[Dr. Gaper]

Originally posted by warthog
. I didn't like that vibe. It was the same self-righteous hippy nonsense that made me uncomfortable on Pearl Street sometimes. I can't explain it. I guess it is just a vibe that if you aren't into all the same shit as those people, then "you just don't get it man". Does that make any sense?
.

No need to explain it, man. We totally understand.

As Mr. Zappa once said -

They took a whole bunch of acid
So they could see where it's at
(It's over there, over there,
Over there, over there
And under here also)
Doont, da-doodem doodem!
They lived on a whole bunch of nothing
They thought they looked very good
They'd never ever worry
They were always in a hurry
To convince themselves that what they were
Was really very groovy
Yes, they believed in all the papers
And the magazines that defined their folklore
They could never laugh
At who or what they thought they were
Or even what they thought
They sorta oughta be
They were totally empty
(Totally empty)
And their lives were really useless
So what the fuck?
They didn't have no sense of humor
(Oodly-oodly-yeah!)
Now they got nothing left
To laugh about
Including themselves

-OR-

Walked past the wig store
Danced at the fillmore
I’m completely stoned
I’m hippy & I’m trippy
I’m a gypsy on my own
I’ll stay a week & get the crabs &
Take a bus back home
I’m really just a phony
But forgive me
’cause I’m stoned

Every town must have a place
Where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons
Popping up every street
Go to san francisco

[danimal's dead]

Buster, I never new Dr. Gaper was one of your aliases, I guess you learn something every day.

[pointedem]

I wouldnt say hate...

def. grew up listening to them-hit maybe 40 shows total?

Was fun back then, but now it has gotten so lame- maybe I've just gotten older?

warthog summed it up very well.

"you dont even know, man..."

the self righteous vibe gets very old very quick

and...

the loop pedal killed it for me ( although it sounded good every now and then)

[mr_gyptian]

I hit the Clifford Ball and Great Went. Quite a few others before, inbetween, and after. Don't think I've ever heard a band push the musical envelope they way they did. antic's such as the trampolines, chess with the crowd, burning a tower of art, hurtling glowsticks(Hood was great not Good at CB 1996), and meatstick's made them a site to see and hear every time out.

I echo the Oysterhead call. best show I saw while living in Chi-town.

[gimpy]

one fun memory: every halloween they'd play at tiny goddard college and one year they passed out boxes of mac and cheese for everybody to rhythmicly shake as the intro to "david bowie".

[powpowpowderwheels]

R.I.P. Phish

Way to end it on a good note...
http://web1.nugs.net/phish/reviews/i...-rocks.big.jpg

Thanks for the music.