Is something wrong with my gloves or my fingers?

[stuckathuntermtn]

I thought I had very warm gloves. I typically don't get cold fingers, have good circulation, and can't remember every really freezing them.
Lately, when I go skiing, my fingers get cold really easily. I noticed putting my poles under my leg so I'm not holding them helps. In fact, I notice as I'm typing this my fingers are a little cold.
I have Gordini Vertigo's with the little field test badge on the wrist.
It's a full gauntlet glove, very similar to the Marmot ultimate ski glove. Goat leather palm, Soft-shell back. Lavawool lining even around the sides of the fingers, Synthetic fill on the back of the hand, and Gore-Tex.
Has my constant typing of useless posts on TGR affected my circulation in my fingers?
I should add that they do warm up after a while when I first start skiing. But sometimes they get cold again later. As far as I knew, these gloves were too warm. I sweat a lot in them, and sometimes get cold coming out after lunch, just because they're wet.

[mntlion]

dry the gloves out at night?

try a buddies gloves and see if it is you or gloves?

too much coffee? not enough B-fast?

[focus]

Do they turn white/go numb?

Could be Raynaud's. I have it. I started getting it when I was a teen (17-18). Otherwise I have very good circulation. It can be triggered by diet and stress, in addition to cold, or a combination of cold and stress. It's worst when driving or skiing, gripping a cold steering wheel or a ski pole seems to set it off. When I'm skiing and I really start to work it tends to get better -- whether that's a function of increased circulation or something else (destressing?) I'm not sure.

Kind of a pita, but it's manageable. Windmilling my arms is the easiest way to get rid of it, forcing blood into my fingers -- though randomly swinging your arms about does tend to draw some odd looks....

[davep]

Do you have sweaty hands?

I had chronically cold hands in any glove I tried - turns out I was sweating on the first run then freezing after that. Now I use gloves that are NOT waterproof, but more breathable, and my hands stay dry and warm. ie no goretex, no leather on the back etc.

[Caucasian Asian]

Oddly enough, my hands always get cold when I wear Gore-tex gloves. I don't understand why, but i've had two pairs of gloves with gore-tex, and my hands got cold with them on. Now I wear a breathable glove, without G/T, and my hands don't get cold anymore. And I always pull the liners and dry them out, because I tend to sweat a lot when I ski.

And I have Raynauds.

[stuckathuntermtn]

I sweat a lot, but the back of the glove is soft-shell, not leather. I've never had this problem until recently, with the same gloves I've had for a few years.
@mtnlion, I usually have coffee and a muffin or a bagel every day for breakfast.

is it possible that the synthetic fill broke down or matted out?

[Vt-Freeheel]

"same gloves I've had for a few years" How many day in a few years? Of course they are matted. get a new pair, be warm again.

[ACHTUNG]

Do you smoke cigarettes?

[stuckathuntermtn]

"same gloves I've had for a few years" How many day in a few years? Of course they are matted. get a new pair, be warm again.

like the fleece and the synthetic fill and all that?

No I don't smoke cigarettes. I fully understand that stimulants constrict blood vessels.

[stuckathuntermtn]

nice to know there's nothing wrong with me, I guess.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Do they turn white/go numb?

Could be Raynaud's. I have it. I started getting it when I was a teen (17-18). Otherwise I have very good circulation. It can be triggered by diet and stress, in addition to cold, or a combination of cold and stress. It's worst when driving or skiing, gripping a cold steering wheel or a ski pole seems to set it off. When I'm skiing and I really start to work it tends to get better -- whether that's a function of increased circulation or something else (destressing?) I'm not sure.

Kind of a pita, but it's manageable. Windmilling my arms is the easiest way to get rid of it, forcing blood into my fingers -- though randomly swinging your arms about does tend to draw some odd looks....

I'm 23, now. They don't turn white, they warm back up. Yes I'm under stress. Eye-lid flickering stress.

[focus]

Age isn't necessarilly definitive. The fact that they don't turn white probably is. Mine have a creepy-sharp demarcation between normal pink and blueish white when they go.

[stuckathuntermtn]

wow, what happens to your toes? do you need hot tronics cranked to 11?

[Wes Mantooth]

My friend had Raynaud's and her fingers didn't turn white or anything they were just always cold. Wear mittens or get a new pair of gloves which is probably your problem.

[focus]

Toes aren't as much of a problem, for whatever reason.

And you're right, the color change thing isn't universal. It's sort of moot, though, as there's shit all you can do about it if you have it -- though apparently some studies have linked it w/ a vitamin deficiency or somesuch? I don't have the details on that, though I guess I probably should.

[Spats]

This is easy: you've got ankylosing spondylitis for which you're taking Enbrel, ferchrissake. Raynaud's is a well known side effect of many autoimmune disorders.

Nothing to be done about it but get the warmest mitts you can. I recommend the www.rbhdesigns.com trigger mitts.

[focus]

^^ Whoa, sherlock. Nice work.

[flyby]

^^^Alright, well if you understood that post I suppose it might be a good route to follow. Cut the coffee and see if that helps.

[stuckathuntermtn]

wow, spats, do you hide outside my house? look in my garbage? lol
It's definitely my fingers. They're not so warm to the touch, but in the gloves (only 2 years old) they warm up after a while. Never heard of Raynaud's being auto-immune. any more info or links you can give me? The symptoms are similar to having once frost-bitten my fingers, however, I'm pretty sure I haven't (I've let them get cold a bunch, though.)
I know this because I got mild frost bite on my toes, and now they usually go numb on cold days.
Maybe I need less warm gloves, since I sweat a lot when I ski?
As far as coffee, I haven't had any change in my coffee drinking habits, and this is a very recent development.

[2FUNKY]

I noticed a pair of my marmot gloves going cold on me. I hand washed them, wow gross, dried them out, treated the leather and BAM like new on the warmth factor. Hey did that beta help at all on the Blaze??

[stuckathuntermtn]

yes. It's just a theory for now, but given time/money/proper equipment, it might be a plan, and then a trip. IDK where the forest service office is, but I'm sure it's not hard to find.

[XXX-er]

I get that when my MEC gortex mitts & 300polartech fleece liners make my hands sweat in colder conditions ,ever try a THIN poly pro glove liner?

Really thin and usually pretty cheap <15$, keeps yer hand away from the sweat soaked insulation

ps:1st sucessful post after phucking up registration

[Steven S. Dallas]

The insulation in the fingertips is packed out.

[trainnvain]

What is your astrological sign?
That's a big factor (and your vertical leap).

[Spats]

wow, spats, do you hide outside my house? look in my garbage? lol

You posted about it, and for some reason it stuck in my mind:
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97166

Anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud&#37;27s_phenomenon
Note the association with autoimmune diseases, and also with several immunosuppressants used to treat them (cyclosporine, sulfasalazine). I've done a lot of research and know a lot about autoimmune diseases.

Forgot to mention: if you smoke, stop, because that makes it much worse. Like "risk of amputation" worse.