What determines your prez candidate?

[Mathematics]

He's not a 20 y/o undergrad... he's 46. What is his national political experience? 3 years in the US Senate. What is his other political experience? 8 years in the Illinois state senate... that might be a better resume than George W Bush's resume in 2000, but that is not saying much now is it. His comments on defense policy inspire no confidence in his realism nor does his constant rhetoric of "change" without any details.

PS We are still waiting to hear about your upbringing...

Edit to add: Compare Obama's experience... it doesn't stack up. He is inexperienced just like GWB was (5 years as Gov of TX). He has no executive leadership experience.
Hillary's resume: 61 y/o, 7 years in the US senate, 8 years as the First Lady of the USA, 13 years as the First Lady of AR, 3 years married to the AR SAG.
McCain: 71 y/o 21 years in the US senate, 4 years in the US House, 4 years as the US Navy liaison to the US Senate, 23 years as a US Naval Officer.

JFK was "inexperienced" and he seemed to avert WW3 pretty well with the Cuban Missile Crisis. Abraham Lincoln was also inexperienced. And that whole getting rid of slavery thing turned out to be not that bad.

So in my mind experience really doesn't mean squat. McCains experience wants to keep us in Iraq indefinitely. and Hilary's experience has already been shown to be for the most part false...her records show she actually cheerleaded for NAFTA, she wasn't in Bosnia "arriving under sniper fire" like she said, alot of the meetings she supposedly took part in she was actually not there for, and of the "35 years of public service" she touts, 15 she was actually working for a law firm.

I think all 3 of the candidates have significant flaws (in my mind), but Obama has the best chance at being able to heal some of the damage done to this country the last 8 years.

[Cliff Huckable]

The New Deal is one of the worst things to ever happen to this country. How can you possibly praise the gross expansion of the federal government far beyond its' constitutional bounds?

Hey, if you want to complain about gross expansion of the federal government you should complain about Reagan and GW.

The New Deal is one of the worst things to ever happen to this country

!?!! This idea ^^^ might require its own thread...

[Cliff Huckable]

JFK was "inexperienced" and he seemed to avert WW3 pretty well with the Cuban Missile Crisis. Abraham Lincoln was also inexperienced. And that whole getting rid of slavery thing turned out to be not that bad.

So in my mind experience really doesn't mean squat. McCains experience wants to keep us in Iraq indefinitely. and Hilary's experience has already been shown to be for the most part false...her records show she actually cheerleaded for NAFTA, she wasn't in Bosnia "arriving under sniper fire" like she said, alot of the meetings she supposedly took part in she was actually not there for, and of the "35 years of public service" she touts, 15 she was actually working for a law firm.

I think all 3 of the candidates have significant flaws (in my mind), but Obama has the best chance at being able to heal some of the damage done to this country the last 8 years.

Just one point: Kennedy got hosed on the Cuban Missle Crisis. There's only one country in the world that thinks he "won" there.

[cantunamunch]

I think all 3 of the candidates have significant flaws (in my mind), but Obama has the best chance at being able to heal some of the damage done to this country the last 8 years.

McCain is the only one to come out against signing statements.

[nick > jesus]

A fiscally conservative, socially liberal, civil libertarian... that's what I want... no hope in sight.

summit keeping it real.

3rd or 4th on that call

[doughboyshredder]

What about the fucking Iraq War

Which is not the war on terror. Are you people fucking drunk? Have you forgotten the biggest waste of our money and our time in the history of our nation. Fuck! Get us the fuck out of Iraq. And then get your fucking hand out of my checkbook. And then let the gays marry.

Fuck McCain. He will embroil us in the middle east while bankrupting our nation and disrespecting the rights of americans.