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[TJ.Brk]

Ok. I'll just get to the bones of it. Last weekend I played in a Double Elimination Qualifier softball tourney here in Quebec. After we paid our entry fee and won our first game. We went back and checked into our motel rooms and waited until our next game. We played it and lost. According to the bracket board we would then play a losers bracket game at 10am Sunday morning. We then found out that they changed the rules. And changed the tourney to a single elimination. Basically we were out of the tourney, and many teams were pissed off. Because the team running the tournament did this after they got everyones money.

Well I posted about it on that organizations website Sunday night about how the double elim qualifier went to single elim. I posted how dissappointed my Quebec teammates were because we spent alot of money on motel rooms, gas, food ext, and how it just wasn't right. Nobody can toss away $120. I was very diplomatic about it. I didn't pull my usual Jarhead stuff. But it cost each member of our team $120 each just for those 2 game.


Well on that softball organizations board it quickley turned to an anit-english/american thread. And that thread got deleted. However, the board moderator took it upon himself to start a new thread and released my real name, said I was a murderer from bulletland, called me a an anti-french racist (my wife is French Canadian), and gave his blessing (vous avez a benediction) for all to do stupid harm to me. (in french it means much worse)

That is when the phone calls and death threats started. This is very serious now. The Quebec Provincial Police are investigating this.

Now it was an official softball organizations representative that told people to do this. How liable is this organization. And can I go after them.

He posted it in french hoping I wouldn't catch on. My wife translated it. She is French Canadian. She went white after reading it. I told her it's time to move.

[TJ.Brk]

There was no more losers bracket. The got rid of it so they would not have to pay for umpires. They didn't tell anybody that once you lose you are done. If we, and the other teams would have known that nobody would have traveled to play in it.

[Poyeboy]

lol..murderer from bulletland...


those silly canadians better watch out....

Al-Qaeda says Canada deserves bombing
Jihad spokesman says Canadians were mean to Khadrs
National Post (Canada.com)

ISLAMABAD - The Al-Qaeda terror network views Canada as a legitimate target because it is a "selfish" nation committing "terrorism" against Muslims around the world, an unofficial spokesman for jihadists waging holy war against the West said Friday.

Khalid Khawaja, a friend of Osama bin Laden's who calls the Saudi terrorist and his followers "the most wonderful people of the world," told the National Post that Canadians should not be surprised if suicide bombers want to strike their country.

"It is very simple," he said. "As Bush says, either you are a friend or you are an enemy. So if you are not my friend, you are our enemy. So it is very simple. When you are supporting the enemy [the United States] then you are a target."

He also said Canada was hated because of its military presence in Afghanistan and its treatment of the Khadr family, notably Abdul Karim, the teen who set off a public outcry when he returned to Toronto for medical treatment after he was wounded in a shootout in Pakistan that left his al-Qaeda father dead.

"Look at these Canadians. They have millions and millions of dollars to fight against Muslims, to send their troops, to send their weapons, and all of them put together, they have objections to giving treatment to this 14 year-old-boy who has been a victim of your terrorism."

Bin Laden first publicly encouraged attacks against Canada in a statement broadcast on Nov. 12, 2002. In March, 2004, an al-Qaeda manual posted on the Internet ranked Canadians as the fifth most important targets.

But al-Qaeda and its ideological theorists have provided little explanation as to why. Canada did not send troops to Iraq, its foreign policy is not particularly pro-Israel and Ottawa has not been overly aggressive in fighting terror.

A top Canadian terrorism expert said Mr. Khawaja's comments were typical of the way al-Qaeda followers view the world, as divided between two conflicting religious and cultural camps: Dar ul-Islam, the perfect Muslim world, and Dar ul-Harb, the immoral rest of the world.

"Canada, as a secular democratic society, is by definition assigned to Dar ul-Harb. From the perspective of al-Qaeda and associated Islamic militants, it is incumbent upon Muslims to wage a jihad, a holy war, against Dar ul-Harb in order to destroy its perceived evils and transform those societies into Dar ul-Islam," said Professor Martin Rudner.

"According to this doctrine, Canada is a religiously sanctioned target for terrorism, suicide bombing and political violence," said Prof. Rudner, Director of the Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies at Carleton University's Norman Paterson School of International Affairs.

A Canadian intelligence report written shortly after bin Laden first urged attacks against Canada said the country was singled out "in view of its support of the U.S." The more recent al-Qaeda manual explains only that Canada is a "Christian" country.

According to a translation of an article written by Abu Ayman al-Hilali, a senior al-Qaeda leader and ideologist, the United States, Britain, France, Italy, Canada, Germany, and Australia are "enemies" and attacks against their civilians are justified. Since Western governments are engaged in a war against Islam, he argued, the civilian voters who elect those governments cannot be considered non-combatants and are legitimate targets for terrorists.

In an interview in Islamabad yesterday, Mr. Khawaja, who fought with bin Laden in Afghanistan and openly admits he supports jihad activities, provided a rare explanation of why terrorists wish to bring violence to Canada.

Suicide bombers are simply fighting back against the Western assault on their faith and Canadians should just learn to "take it," he said.

"Today you have the power in your hand. The other day the suicide bomber also has power. So you use your cruise missiles and atom bombs and all that, so he uses his power. So why do you cry at that time? When you say we are fighting a war against you, so better take it then.

"They are also fighting a war against you. They are fighting their way, you are fighting your way. So let's be happy. But only thing is, your faces are pulled down, you are scared, sitting in America and Canada. You are scared of a man sitting in the cave."

"We are not scared of you."

He described life as a "cage" and a "prison" from which he hoped to escape. "We love it like we want to live in a toilet, and we just want to get out of it." And the best way to leave life is in jihad, he said. "So how can you fight with us?"

Mr. Khawaja would not say when he last spoke with bin Laden but his recent activities include helping the families of al-Qaeda members killed in a 1998 U.S. cruise missile strike on a terror training camp in Afghanistan, and helping the Khadr family of Ontario.

The return of Mrs. Khadr and her youngest son Abdul Karim to Canada, and the broadcast of comments in which the mother and her daughter praised suicide bombings, outraged many Canadians. Thousands signed a petition calling for the deportation of the family.

"You have paralyzed [Abdul Karim], your system has paralyzed him -- although of course he's been paralyzed by Pakistan Army, but it was under order of this coalition. To me I call them governments of terrorists, the coalition of terrorists.

"So you paralyzed this boy with no thought, you paralyzed his father with no thought, now the whole Canadian nation put together, they are bothered about taxpayers' money, that this boy should not be treated with this money.

"You have all the money to kill the people, you have all the billions of dollars to make the people slaves, you have billions of dollars to torture the people, you have billions of dollars to put up in the media to create false enemies and you have no money to give treatment to one of your victims. So what treatment do you deserve?

"Your civilization is selfish and self-centred. Just you want to live and enjoy yourselves and that is all, you don't give."

He said terrorist attacks would end only when the West stopped trying to dominate the Muslim world.

"We don't believe in killing innocent people but we would certainly like to send you into the Stone Age the same way you have sent us into the Stone Age."

[phUnk]

Drama!

[TJ.Brk]

I'm sorry this isn't about Canadians, or Quebecers. Frankly they are some of the most hospitable people I've ever met. And I would gladly fight for them.

Frankly there is always a few bad apples. But sometimes those bad apples get put incharge. As in this case. However, I'm drinking tons of coffee to stay awake. Wondering if the person, or persons that called this house will go through with their threats. Most likely not. But I'm not going to take that chance.

Frankly this softball official that posted what he did. He insulted all Canadians by what he posted up.

And for the record. I have been put back on reserve status in the Marines. I will be working out of the embassy on my duty time for now. But, I'm putting in the paperwork to be assigned to a Canadian Infantry Unit as a US liason training officer. I was told that isn't a problem. But this is a clear sign that things are going to get much worse in this world than get better. Splat posted up about the 3 Islamic Jihads. It was dead on. And that is what we are dealing with.

[summit]

Damn TJ... that sux... but woe be upon the foolish idiot who actually does come after you.

Sue the pants of that worthless SOB.

Lemme know if I can do anything from here.

[JH Hank]

You play softball with French Canadians and expect them to follow the "rules?" heh.

[Z]

no legal advice here, but that's fucked up......hard to believe a fun softball tourney can turn to death threats...hope everything turns out fine

[TJ.Brk]

Hank it is a legal question. Because an official representing SPN told all to do harm to me. I'm not really the suing kind. Frankly I perfer to deal with problems man to man. And if I do choose to go the way of civil courts. Anything I might get will be donated to the Canadian and United States disabled athetes that participate in the Para Olympics.

I really can't go into detail about the criminal part of it. The QPP told me not too.

[Al K. Duh]

We believe in the spirit of French speaking people everywhere, and their rallying cry: Appease, appease, appease!
Down with the imperialist Americans!

[summit]

TJ

Man to Man requires that both sides be somewhat honorable.

You are honorable... this softball coordinator is not in the least or he wouldn't have done what he did.

Surely his actions are criminal. Make sure they take his ass down.

[PaSucks]

You really need to move. Wasn't it you that posted about bieng threatened by the hells angels? Man Eastern Canada sucks.

[BakerBoy]

You singlehandedly get more death-threats than the entire number of people I've ever met in my entire life.... I guess you have a way with words or something...

[Canuk]

TJ - did you happen to save or print a copy of the thread that you started? That might help in proving that you were not the one making any inflamitory statements.

This whole deal that you have got into is total BS. Some people are unbelievable. To purposely screw people out of registration money, then make threats against you for complaining? Crazy, man....

[Superstar Punani]

Originally posted by phUnk
Drama!

Cruisin' for a bruisin',I'm talkin' no crap
Pipe bomb in my trunk,got a nine in my lap
I'm layin' for a sprayin',tonight there's no playin'
My posse's most strapped,tonight the crew's weighin'
Dust is burnin',the steering wheel's turnin'
I'm out a week,I'm already earnin'
Suckers crossed,tonight it's their loss
Payback time,boy,life's the cost
Gauges out the window,one lay cross the roof
They all die if those suckers ain't bullet proof
I'm rollin' death tollin',of course the car's stolen
But I'm blind to what's wrong,all I want is what's golden
A fool in a fight,too dumb to know right
Fuckin' blue light-read'em their rights

Drama
Drama
Drama
Drama

Copped an alias bailed out in an hour or less
I keep a bank for that don't know about the rest
Copped another piece,hit the dark streets
Rollin' once again,fuck the damn police
Called up my friend JOE, a roof job pro,459 on his mind car stereos
He said the spot was sleep,he cased the joint a week
3 a.m. on the dot inside we creep
Got Alpines,Fishes,JVC's,
Motorola Phones,Sony Color TV's
Had the hide packed up till we heard freeze
Fuckin' blue lights-read'em their rights

Drama
Drama
Drama
Drama

4 in the morning,lights in my face
That's the time,you know the place
Cuffed in the room with the two-way glass
Detects in effect cold doggin' my ass
"What's your date of birth?"..."What's your real name?"
I stuck to my alias,I know the game
If they don't know who you are,then they don't know what you've done
"You're just makin' this harder on yourself,son"
I know this shit by heart,I'm too clever
"Have you ever been arrested before?"
"Nope,never"
Da reject all over his face
You see no confession,no case
Then my boy started illin',talkin' and tellin'
Son of a bitch-he was a snitch

Drama
Drama
Drama
Drama

Under I went,I caught a case and half
He dropped the mallet,then the judge laughed
Now I'm in the penzo,chillin' like a real pro
I can't move until the man says go
A puppet of the big game,an institutional thing
I wouldn't be here if I fed my brain
Got knowledge from school books,instead of street crooks
Now all I get is penitentiary hard looks
The joint is like an oven of caged heat
You're just a number,another piece of tough meat
Killers and robbers are all you great
Act soft you will get beat
On death row they got their own hot seat
For those who feel that they are truly elite
The last thing you see's a priest
The lights dim-your life ends

Drama

[Poyeboy]

Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
TJ

Man to Man requires that both sides be somewhat honorable.

You are honorable... this softball coordinator is not in the least or he wouldn't have done what he did.

Surely his actions are criminal. Make sure they take his ass down.

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[tuffy109]

dude, it's fucking softball. if it doesn't work out, maybe you can join a croquet league or something.

[gincognito]

Thumbs up to Punani and his double dose of Ice T.

Sick and ashamed and happy (and was once in love with the girl on the Power album cover),
d.

[Canuk]

Originally posted by tuffy109
dude, it's fucking softball. if it doesn't work out, maybe you can join a croquet league or something.

It doesn't matter what the hell it is. TJ had a valid complaint, made it, and is now being threatened because of it.

[tuffy109]

Originally posted by Canuk
It doesn't matter what the hell it is. TJ had a valid complaint, made it, and is now being threatened because of it.

for the what, fifth time? and every one of them involves softball, canada and that damn snoopy avatar.

[Rusty Nails]

Based on TJs facts, I don't see a criminal prosecution or a civil lawsuit.

[Superstar Punani]

Originally posted by tuffy109
...and that damn snoopy avatar.

I like the Snoopy avatar- it fits his posts.

Ever watch the Charlie Brown cartoons and the grown-ups sound like "Mwah MWAAAH Bwah Bwah BWAAAAH bwaaah mwah bwah bwah bWAH"?

That's how I see TJ's posts

[Snow Dog]

Originally posted by Rusty Nails
Based on TJs facts, I don't see a criminal prosecution or a civil lawsuit.

Uttering threats/harassing/stalking is a serious crime in Canada 'cause we're more civilized than you 'mericans.

[Rusty Nails]

Def. not stalking. Also, according to TJs facts, the guy never threatened him, just said he didn't care if others did. Okay. How is that a criminal threat? I don't care if you slap TJ around -- did I just threaten him? No.

TJ, what they did sucks, but if you came to me, I wouldn't walk this dog into court.

[Snow Dog]

I'm not a lawyer (I just pretend to be one on the Internet) but their actions could fall under Criminal Harassment:

"Criminal harassment, which includes “stalking”, is a crime. While many crimes are defined by conduct that results in a very clear outcome (for example, murder), criminal harassment generally consists of repeated conduct that is carried out over a period of time and which causes victims to reasonably fear for their safety but does not necessarily result in physical injury. It may be a precursor to subsequent violent acts."
...
"Criminal harassment is not new but recognition of it as a distinct criminal behaviour is recent. Prior to 1993, persons who engaged in stalking conduct might have been charged with one or more of the following offences: intimidation (section 423); uttering threats (section 264.1); mischief (section 430); indecent or harassing phone calls (section 372); trespassing at night (section 177); and breach of recognizance (section 811).

On August 1, 1993, the Criminal Code was amended to create the new offence of criminal harassment. It was introduced as a specific response to violence against women, and in particular, to domestic violence against women.

The Criminal Code was amended again, effective May 26, 1997, to strengthen the 1993 criminal harassment provisions."


But we'll see how the police and Crown Prosecutor deal with it. If Mrs. TJ feels threatened then it would be a big deal.