Serious Boot Problems

[Sloafer11']

Currently I'm skiing the Technica Diablo Magma and im having some serious problems with my knees and feet because of them. The whole problem can be pretty confusing but if you understand me then please give some feedback.
hear goes: (tedious and simple at times, bear with me)

When you flex forward in your boots your ankles, knees, and shins are supposed to enter the boot straight, with equal pressure on either side of your feet, ankle, and knees. When this does not happen and your leg enters the boot at a tilt it throws off your balance and makes it harder to get an edge, plus it can hurt like a bitch. To fix this, boot doctors adjust the "cant" so the boot will lean towards the pressured side of your leg, so your leg now enters the boot straight. When I flex, my knees go inward >< so i had my boots canted as much as possible inward so my legs would be straight into the boot, but my boots dont cant enough. So i have a ton of pressure on the inside of each leg which puts strain on my knees and could possibly render me unskiable =0!!! because of this pressure, the outsides of my feet are trying to compensate and move over in the boot, causing excrutiating pain on top, bottom, and the side of the outside toe area of both feet. No other boot at my prefered ski shop canted enough either and the employees didnt know of any boot that would.

so, for those of you that understand my problem, is there a boot that you know of that will canted inward more than any other. I would like to keep skiing very much, and i dont want to have to invest in "Strolz."

I would also value any information about strolz, where i could get them/ general cost/ past experiances/ etc. thanks guys.

[1wsguy]

If you do not already have custom insoles,....get them.

[quebecfreestyler]

go get some custom footbed work, I'd sudgest checking if you wouldnt need custom fotbeds in your shoes too since everyone I fitted with such problems had alignment problems that should be treated by custom footbeds in shoes too.

[Sloafer11']

ill talk to my boot fitters about it. if i get customs for my shoes will that cost the same amount or can I use my old superfeet, or sole footbeds?

[Crass3000]

I read somewhere that they can grind the bottom of your boot which adjusts the canting ALOT better than the adjustment you are talking about. They simply figure out the slight degree that the boot bottom needs to be at and grind it to that angle. They then fill the bottom of the boot in with material comparable to the material the boot was made with to return the boot back to specifications so that they work good with bindings, etc. From what the site said this is the best way to deal with canting. They mentioned that they adjustments they do are a joke. I don't know much about boot work but they seemed to have a pretty good system.

edit: but as mentioned above custom soles would be a step taken before going to this extreme.

[mntlion]

1) is the shell fit right for length?
2) is the shell fit right for width?
3) get some footbeds, step on them, raise your toes up/keep the ball of your foot down, the arch of the footbed should match the arch of your foot in this position.
4) if you still need more angle on the upper cuff, what crass3000 said, or get someone to remove the side cuff rivet on outside of the boot and re-drill it 10+mm higher. That sould give you a larger range to adjust the upper cuff. If you dont like the way it skis them just screw back into the old hole.

[dethklok878]

Some bootfitters also have canting soles which can be attached to the bottom of your boots and provide precise degree adjustments, and don't require grinding the soles, only the toe and heel pieces. If you are in SLC at any point, sent me a PM and I'll send you to a great bootfitter.

[Sloafer11']

I read somewhere that they can grind the bottom of your boot which adjusts the canting ALOT better than the adjustment you are talking about. They simply figure out the slight degree that the boot bottom needs to be at and grind it to that angle. They then fill the bottom of the boot in with material comparable to the material the boot was made with to return the boot back to specifications so that they work good with bindings, etc. From what the site said this is the best way to deal with canting. They mentioned that they adjustments they do are a joke. I don't know much about boot work but they seemed to have a pretty good system.

edit: but as mentioned above custom soles would be a step taken before going to this extreme.

what is the site?

[flip]

Try hitting up Jeff Bergeron on epicski.com. The guys is a great bootfitter and gives really extensive advice online which will at least give you a starting point.

[oftpiste]

As I understand it cuff rivet adjustments=cuff alignment which is different than canting?

[snoboy]

Planing the boot would make it usuable in any binding I imagine, but I have heard also of mounting the bindings on canting strips. Search www.tognar.com

[Tunco]

Planing the boot would make it usuable in any binding I imagine, but I have heard also of mounting the bindings on canting strips. Search www.tognar.com

After the sole is planed the top of the toe and heel lugs are planed as well, bringing the boots back into compatibility. I was 2 degrees out of whack an both legs and the difference is amazing.

[Crass3000]

what is the site?

I'm not sure that this is the site I originally saw but they seem to do the same work.

http://www.snowind.com/

Click on "boot balancing"

[steved]

As listed by mntlion, well-designed footbed can handle balance issues before dealing with cuff.
Deal with your pronation 1st...
$.01

[Spats]

Daleboot has replaceable toe and heel lugs that give you real canting (not just cuff alignment, which is what your Tecnicas have), and they measure/adjust it as part of the bootfitting.

I don't know anything about Strolz but I hear good things.

First, though, you need to try insoles with more arch support.