Obama...Kennedy...MLK Jr.

[Jer]

I don't think Christian conservatives are not going to vote for a Jewish guy.

So you think they are going to vote for a Jew? Sorry to be the grammar/double negative police...

[coreshot-tourettes]

I find it depressing that the Dems tossed Richardson under the bus.

A governor who was a former ambassador to the UN, has experience in the Middle East, is pro-choice, pro-gun, is a Latino. and has a concealed pistol permit?

And of course they trash him. How stupid.

An Obama-Richardson ticket would have my attention, though.

[schindlerpiste]

Thus, the "Big Grin".

[rideit]

OOOHHH Shania....

I would fuck her as hard as Bush has fucked all of us.

And that is....HARD.

[Adolf Allerbush]

So you think they are going to vote for a Jew? Sorry to be the grammar/double negative police...

No, that was deserved...I'm an idiot.

I think that conservative Christians will not vote for McCain if there is a Jewish dude on the ticket with him.

[rideit]

Truly conservative Christians are ALL FOR the resurrection of the second Jewish Temple, as part one towards the Rapture.

C'mon, you MUST know that.

[cloudpeak]

I have faith that Obama will surround himself with incredibly smart people and have the good sense and judgement to listen to them on important issues.

Let's see:

o Tony Rezko
o Allison Davis
o William Ayers
o David Axelrod (current campaign manager and media fixer for Mayor Richard Daley)
o Jeremiah Wright
o David Cutler
o Zbigniew Brzezinski
o Sarah Sewall

Are these the smart people you're thinking about?

[rideit]

If all those folks learned from their mistakes, they represent a blue ribbon brain trust.

And actually, there is a certain power in that assesment.

[MassLiberal]

If all those folks learned from their mistakes, they represent a blue ribbon brain trust.

And actually, there is a certain power in that assesment.

Very true, no person is an angel. You can learn more from how someone has dealt with mistakes than from their successes.

[spindrift]

You can learn more from how someone has dealt with mistakes than from their successes.

Well then, we should be able to learn a great deal "more" from these folks...

[RootSkier]

[mr_gyptian]

Let's see:


o Zbigniew Brzezinski


Are the smart people you're thinking about?

you mean dem's have to pick between him and Sandy "pants" Berger as their next Secretary of State?


best of luck, ladies.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Don't forget my man Luther Vandross!

as long as we are all admitting which black men have mad us weep.
(other then the black man that made blizzy cry from ass pain in the pen)

How about Outkast "war" written in '03?
they saw what was going on and said something about it early on, and 3 yrs before anyone in the media would (dare)say it. nobody gave this song the attention it deserved.

I would vote 4 Big Boi 2 be Obamas VP

artist:Outkast song;"War"

As I, struggle to keep my balance and composure
I'm 'posed ta, propose a toast to players on every coast-a
The lyrical roller coaster, mind-bender
'Stead of watchin these sucker MC's
I'm seein just how they lyin to the general population
Don't be patient, get up and stand up for your life
Don't you agree or understand we lost some rights at 1-1-9?
Come dumb, come young, come blind unwind confined
to the situation, we facin, cause in time, tick tick boom[singers]
Tick, boom.. tick, tick-boom
Tick, boom.. tick, tick-boom
Tick, boom.. tick, tick-boom
Tick, boom.. tick, tick-boom

[explosion forward and reversed]
singing: Hold my... hold my hand
scratched: You're gonna die here
Repeat

[Big Boi]
When will we all, awake up out this dream
Come here and smell the Folgers, the soldiers are human beings
Man actin as if he was the supreme bein
Clockin the souls of men out like he was G-O-D and
W-A-Rrah, there'll be no tomorrow but sorrow
and horror will follow the hollow hearts battle for dollars
Politicians, modern day magicians
Physicians of death, more health care for poor health
Who makin us ill, they makin us kill
That's makin me spill my guts (chill Big, lay in the cut)
For what? I refuse to sit in the backseat and get handled
Like I do nuttin all day but sit around watch the Cartoon Channel
I rap about, the Presidential election and the scandal
that followed, and we all watched the nation, as it swallowed
and chalked it up, basically America you got FUCKED
The media shucked and jived now we stuck - damn!

singing: Hold my... hold my hand
scratched: You're gonna die here, die here
Repeat

[Big Boi]
Operation Anaconda - ask yourself
was it full of bleeps and blunders, did they ever find Osama?And why in the fuck did Daniel Pearl have to pay the price
for his life and his wife plead twice?
See Al-Amin got life and Fred got dead, Hampton
To dampen the dream of all the Panthers
They got they answer for ransom
As we read together, as we dream together
Count your blessings whenever you feel that things won't be no better
But it got to, you gave me this microphone so I must rock you
Your brainwaves, airwaves, energized and SHOCKED you
Y'all got me, well I got y'all, long as I know y'all listenin
I'ma always bring food for thought to the table in the kitchen
Now eat nigga!

[fondigley]

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Holy shit ROTFLMPO*!!!!

well this election is settled, as barak may be the most qualified prez of all times

*p 4 penis

[rideit]

Good C-n-P....


"George W. Bush's overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78% of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.

Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.
Among Americans registered to vote, 18% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 78% disapprove.

That is just mind-blowing. How does it compare to other presidents? There's no comparison.

Nixon, as he was hounded out of office in August 1974, never dipped below the mid-20s.

Here's a pretty good compilation of poll numbers from Roper. To summarize the highlights:

Clinton low: 36 percent, May 1993 (early missteps like Zoe Baird)

George H.W. Bush low: 29 percent, August 1992 (recession)

Reagan low: 35 percent, January 1983 (recession)

Carter low: 28 percent, July 1979 (high gas prices)

Ford low: 37 percent, January 1975 (economy, Nixon pardon)

Nixon low: 23 percent, January 1974 (Watergate)

Johnson low: 35 percent, August 1968 (Vietnam)

Lowest ever? That would be Harry Truman during the Korean War, in February 1952, at 22 percent.

And so now George W. Bush has shattered a record that has stood for 55 long years, and there's not any one reason. It's everything, although I suspect that liberals would more likely say Iraq and torture, conservatives would say immigration and runaway spending, and everyone would now say the economy."
http://www.attytood.com/2008/02/wors...sh_scor_1.html

[skibuminwyo]

Damn, that is impressive. And we were all stupid enough to "vote" for a second term of the bush.


edit: whether we wanted to or not.

[fondigley]

Can't help but say he is a record breaker. Send him to Guiness. Just sucks about the record. Get him out. Voting cock for 08.

[char]

You need to take of the obama blinders for a second and take a long look at his rhetoric. His campaign has been 100% about him, and not the Democratic party, in fact, if you look at his rhetoric, it blames democrats for the faults of the past 8 years as much as he does the republicans. He hasn't done anything to build party unity, all he has done is build loyalty to Obama. If you look at the numbers, Hillary is beating obama when it comes to D's who have cast their ballots in this primary. Obama has won mightily on the I's.

Obama supporters need to realize what they are getting with him. They will not be getting a nominee who can define differences between the parties. Obama seemingly only mentioned “Republicans” in the context of reaching out to them, while letting their leaders off the hook, as if the last seven years of graft, corruption, and circumvention of the Constitution were bipartisan in origin. Obama aimed his attack not against the party which controlled Washington for the better part of this decade and which controlled Congress for the better part of the 1990’s. Rather, he aimed his critique against both parties and Washington as a whole, as if Democrats are equally culpable for the country’s problems. If tonight is any guide, Democrats will be getting a nominee who runs just as often against them as Republicans. They will be getting a nominee who shows little stomach for holding the Republican Party in general and John McCain particularly accountable for what they have done to this country. His campaign seemingly has an easier time carving up a female Democratic opponent than they do a Republican standard-bearer who represents Bush’s third term, and who questions Obama’s fitness for office.

This nonpolitical message may be the message that Obama’s Millions want to hear, and we can all pray that they show up and vote for him and the Democratic Party in November to offset the wave of motivated far right forces aligned against him, as well as the Indies and Latinos that McCain will pull from him. My main question Senator Obama is this: with the nomination almost in hand now, when does your message shift from being all about you and the movement towards a call for a Democratic government to right the wrongs from years of GOP harm?

-soto

You want to know why? Because the Democrats have been fucking steamrolled by the Republicans.

Wake up! We don't like either party.

I think most Democrats vote D because they don't want to vote R, not because D's offer some sort of real option. The Democrats better wake up and start doing their jobs if they want to keep them. Especially the old guard. Start compromising and actually accomplish something that serves the interests to the American people.

It's total crap and I for one would like to see a new party created that actually operates in reality, not the fantasy land that the Democrats and Republicans seem to occupy.

Oh, and stop talking to us like we are fucking children.

<cue political rhetoric>

[Crass3000]

Let me preface this by saying that Obama seems like a nice guy who probably really cares about the country. Maybe he would make a good president?!

I have no horse in this race (I really wouldn't care if Obama won) but if I hear Rootskier talk about Obama like a god again I think I'm gonna puke. Rootskier must have a crush on this guy. Has anybody been in Rootskier's room lately? I bet there's some crazy shrine in his room with Obama pictures everywhere including the ceiling like one of those psychos in the movies.

I seriously need to know Rootskier. Do you masterbate to this guys pictures?

If you listen to Obama speak all he says is the word 'change' and about 100 of it's synonyms over and over without ever really getting into substance. Whe he says 'change' I think everybody gets all giddy thinking Obama has their kind of change in mind.

He's obviously a great speaker but because he's so good he doesn't have to include any substance. When the actual election debates start he's going to actually talk about his ideas -- thats where things are going to get interesting.

Seriously, listen to him speak. He says 'change' every third word and rarely brings up specifics. Then all the braindead douches act like he's saying something revolutionary and different. It's sad and hilarious at the same time -- he doing a hell of a job convincing people he's going to 'change' the country and put it back on it's feet but 90% of the people that like him only know about a couple of beliefs at most.

[AlpineJunkie]

Good C-n-P....

"George W. Bush's overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78&#37; of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.

Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.
Among Americans registered to vote, 18% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 78% disapprove.

That is just mind-blowing. How does it compare to other presidents? There's no comparison.

Nixon, as he was hounded out of office in August 1974, never dipped below the mid-20s.

Here's a pretty good compilation of poll numbers from Roper. To summarize the highlights:

Clinton low: 36 percent, May 1993 (early missteps like Zoe Baird)

George H.W. Bush low: 29 percent, August 1992 (recession)

Reagan low: 35 percent, January 1983 (recession)

Carter low: 28 percent, July 1979 (high gas prices)

Ford low: 37 percent, January 1975 (economy, Nixon pardon)

Nixon low: 23 percent, January 1974 (Watergate)

Johnson low: 35 percent, August 1968 (Vietnam)

Lowest ever? That would be Harry Truman during the Korean War, in February 1952, at 22 percent.

And so now George W. Bush has shattered a record that has stood for 55 long years, and there's not any one reason. It's everything, although I suspect that liberals would more likely say Iraq and torture, conservatives would say immigration and runaway spending, and everyone would now say the economy."
http://www.attytood.com/2008/02/wors...sh_scor_1.html

Jesus Christ, how many times do I have to point out that that %19 statement (I'm not even sure if it was much of a scientific poll) on W from a poorly designed website does not constitute a reliable and unbiased approval rating. I listed all the reliable and respected polling groups and they all have him at around %33. But go ahead, go pull your data from MoveOn or WarResisters or whatever other crazy place you would like to.

[RootSkier]

I seriously need to know Rootskier. Do you masterbate to this guys pictures?

I lol'd.

[philippeR]

I like this thread. I mean, seriously. Muy interersting for this frog.


Oh, Rideit, isn't she too old for you ?

[Adolf Allerbush]

If you listen to Obama speak all he says is the word 'change' and about 100 of it's synonyms over and over without ever really getting into substance. Whe he says 'change' I think everybody gets all giddy thinking Obama has their kind of change in mind.

He's obviously a great speaker but because he's so good he doesn't have to include any substance. When the actual election debates start he's going to actually talk about his ideas -- thats where things are going to get interesting.

What do you expect any of the candidates to do at campaign rallies when they are giving speeches? Get into intricate detail about there plans to reform healthcare? Indicate exactly which brigades of troops will be coming home from Iraq and when? Their economic stimulus proposal two years out?

Come on man. These people (Obama, Clinton and McCain) are giving speeches intended to rally people to their support. If they were to do what you are suggesting in a speech they would lose their audiences attention. The substance you speak of will and should come out in debates, interviews, etc. Not in a campaign rally.

[RootSkier]

The arrogance of Obama supporters is what turned me off of accepting his campaign's job offer.

Missed this the first time around. I thought it was because Hillary offered you more cash? At least, that's you PM'd me.

Anyways, this is the most retarded argument anywhere. Want proof?

www.hillaryis44.com