Breaking Bad

**Rasputin** · 09-20-2011, 02:05 AM

Holy coup d'etat! Gus is a cold fucker. Great acting. I really liked Jesse's pwn3age of the chemistry snob too.

**Ripzalot** · 09-20-2011, 02:57 AM

was mike about to pop jesse in the back of the head just before he got shot? sure looked like it. it will be interesting to see how they get out of mex considering their circumstances, hopefully some adventure, not just VG resetting them back in ABQ.

**Dantheman** · 09-20-2011, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by arild

Jesse has shown under pressure that he can make pretty much equal product to that of Walt´s

Jesse's meth came out at 96%. That was high enough to get the cartel excited, but remember from the lab scene in the beginning of the season that Gale could only promise 96% purity and could not reproduce the >99% purity of the sample of Walt’s blue that he had been given. Also remember that Gale told Gus that last 3% was much more significant than it seemed. Jesse has learned well, but Walt’s meth still owns.

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

was mike about to pop jesse in the back of the head just before he got shot? sure looked like it.

Hmmm, I didn't notice that watching it last night but I was so blown away by everything that went down in the last 5 minutes my attention may have slipped and I missed it. I'll watch that scene again tonight.

What an episode!!!!

**Mau** · 09-20-2011, 01:20 PM

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**Socialist** · 09-20-2011, 01:24 PM

yeah, I was confused about that 96.2 as well. I thought that maybe it wasn't a purity percentage, but something else. Surely the cartel had tested Walts meth and was expecting similar when Jesse showed up.

You think young Gus was gay for his business partner that the cartel killed?

Skylar is going to ruin everything. I bet Ted Beneke comes begging for more money now that he knows where it came from, then he fails and turns on her to avoid jail.

**bennymac** · 09-20-2011, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

was mike about to pop jesse in the back of the head just before he got shot? sure looked like it. it will be interesting to see how they get out of mex considering their circumstances, hopefully some adventure, not just VG resetting them back in ABQ.

wow good eye - rewatched that scene and you're right - Mike definitely appears to be taking aim at Jesse when he gets shot - I did not notice that at all until you pointed it out

**Rasputin** · 09-20-2011, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Socialist

You think young Gus was gay for his business partner that the cartel killed?

Skylar is going to ruin everything. I bet Ted Beneke comes begging for more money now that he knows where it came from, then he fails and turns on her to avoid jail.

Gus is obviously gay, he's thin, single, and neat.

Oh, and Ted is SO dead, unfortunately Skylar will be there to the bitter end.

**Jer** · 09-20-2011, 04:42 PM

I will be the one party pooper here and say that last episode was getting too Hollywood. At least the action is. One of the things I've always liked about BB is the realism. In the season premier when Gus cut that guy's throat he struggled for a long time - not like in the movies where the guy dies immediately.

I didn't like the Cartel mass poisoning. I find it hard to believe that Gus (and Mike) would go with a plan that has so many variables where so many things could go wrong. And everybody falling over at pretty much the same instant?Jesse's combat calm from his extensive first-person shooter game training? I know if you go for 100% realism in all aspects it's going to end up being a bore, but I expect more from this show.

And yeah - Gus is homosexual. That's been pretty obvious from the beginning.

And yeah - Ted is a douche.

**Dantheman** · 09-20-2011, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

was mike about to pop jesse in the back of the head just before he got shot? sure looked like it.

I watched it again and definitely think you're right.

**Socialist** · 09-20-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dantheman

I watched it again and definitely think you're right.

It does look like that, but I think if that was the intent they would have shot it better, made it more obvious, or have had at least some kind of signal from gus - like "do it" or something.

**Ripzalot** · 09-21-2011, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Gus is obviously gay, he's thin, single, and neat.

yes but also hector made some snide comments in the previous episode.

Originally Posted by Jer

I didn't like the Cartel mass poisoning. I find it hard to believe that Gus (and Mike) would go with a plan that has so many variables where so many things could go wrong. And everybody falling over at pretty much the same instant?Jesse's combat calm from his extensive first-person shooter game training? I know if you go for 100% realism in all aspects it's going to end up being a bore, but I expect more from this show.

and there would have been a small army with tons of automatic weapons to protect all those dons in one place. instead there was like 2 or 3 guys with pistols?

Originally Posted by Socialist

It does look like that, but I think if that was the intent they would have shot it better, made it more obvious, or have had at least some kind of signal from gus - like "do it" or something.

i think vince gill does these things on purpose to keep us guessing.

**stevesmith7** · 09-21-2011, 04:20 AM

I've got to disagree on this one. Mike clearly comes up on a target well to the right of Jesse and then swings toward the shooter who ends up hitting him. Besides getting rid of Jesse can be taken care of anytime. Why now?

**Ripzalot** · 09-21-2011, 06:11 AM

why is mike raising the gun over the door as he gets in the car? not a natural motion. and he's nowhere looking in the direction of the shooter as he raises it. he only swings past jesse after either catching the shooter in his peripheral vision and/or as a result of the shot.

why now? why not? mike isn't shot at that point. dropping jesse then would be easier than trying to fool him later into a trap. and they don't have to clean anything up.

**Dantheman** · 09-21-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jer

I will be the one party pooper here and say that last episode was getting too Hollywood. At least the action is. One of the things I've always liked about BB is the realism.

I'll agree with that to an extent, but it is a TV show after all and it was no worse than two planes colliding directly over Walt's house.

Originally Posted by Jer

I didn't like the Cartel mass poisoning. I find it hard to believe that Gus (and Mike) would go with a plan that has so many variables where so many things could go wrong.

It was certainly a, umm, bold plan, but not too outrageous IMO. Being a slave to the cartel (people he has a seething hatred for) probably sounded worse than death to Gus so he was willing take an enormous risk. Mike was just being a soldier.

**Verde** · 09-21-2011, 06:31 PM

Intersting observations about the potential twist of Jessie getting popped. I thought it was going to be Walt who would be getting killed as soon as they got back. With Jessie able to produce 96% pure blue, why do you need the loose cannon around any more? They apparently have other sources for keeping tabs on the DEA.

One other aspect that I thought was interesting was the poison that Gus used: seemed similar to how Walt had described the poison that he had produced for Jessie to use against Gus. Who was Gus' source?

**BCMtnHound** · 09-21-2011, 06:48 PM

There's a lot more to Gus and his background that we have yet to find out I think. Just what is his history in SA and why the cartel 'respected' him? They better not be building him up for nothing - he's becoming more an enigma than almost all the other characters.
Walt's ricin poison would take quite a bit more time (as he stated); I wonder if they will reveal what poison Gus used.
Never caught the Mike offing Jessie scene - so many angles to the show, almost something every episode are discovered later.

**Socialist** · 09-22-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

why is mike raising the gun over the door as he gets in the car? not a natural motion. and he's nowhere looking in the direction of the shooter as he raises it. he only swings past jesse after either catching the shooter in his peripheral vision and/or as a result of the shot.

why now? why not? mike isn't shot at that point. dropping jesse then would be easier than trying to fool him later into a trap. and they don't have to clean anything up.

They can't even use it as a teaser or in the "Last week on breaking bad..."
The scene was too fast, and the intent to kill jesse was never made.

**TahoeJ** · 09-22-2011, 01:19 PM

I don't think he was going to shoot Jesse, I think he heard the shooter approaching and was turning his gun in that direction but got hit while doing so. Logistically it wouldn't make sense, either, since they would still want his help at least until they got back across the border. Not to mention, Gus could have easily allowed Jesse to drink the tequila... he was about to.

**Dantheman** · 09-22-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

I don't think he was going to shoot Jesse, I think he heard the shooter approaching and was turning his gun in that direction but got hit while doing so.

Whatever reason Mike had for raising his gun over the door, I don't think it was to shoot the guy who shot him. He already has the gun up before he starts to turn left, I don't think he had any idea that guy was there until just before the bullet hit him.

**idiot** · 09-22-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Logistically it wouldn't make sense, either, since they would still want his help at least until they got back across the border. Not to mention, Gus could have easily allowed Jesse to drink the tequila... he was about to.

this was my take also.

ironic that jesse is supossed to poison gus, but gus could have easily poisoned jesse

**Jer** · 09-26-2011, 10:05 AM

Wow. Those last few minutes were insane.

**otto parts** · 09-26-2011, 12:02 PM

Missed the reference-when did Jesse meet Hector?

So much for Walt's tough guy persona.

**funkendrenchman** · 09-26-2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by otto parts

Missed the reference-when did Jesse meet Hector?

So much for Walt's tough guy persona.

Back when they were dealing with Tuco in the desert.

My two favorite parts of the last episode were the framing of Walt in the crawl space and the clouds/darkness moving over them as they were talking in the desert.

**TahoeJ** · 09-26-2011, 12:24 PM

So basically Walt got out like he wanted... but his new bad-ass ego-driven persona won't let it end there, right?

**Mau** · 09-26-2011, 01:14 PM

I think the fact that there was A- blood for Jesse in the makeshift hospital should dispel the notion that Mike was going to shoot him at the end of last week's episode.