Tuckerman Mini!!!

**Doremite** · 03-07-2008, 02:45 PM

Sprite -- Thanks. I think the guy who pulled it together did a pretty bang up job. Fun to know the routes before getting up there so you can just scout from HoJos and decide your fate (although some of the skiers right lines like Righ Gulley Lobster Claw, RR Gulley and Connection Gulley can't be scouted from Hojos). Personally I've really grown to like the Hillmans area as well.

We had endeavored to have a much more detailed source with more pics of lines from different angles and different snow levels, but the project somewhat faded over the years. At least something was pulled together to help folks navigate their fate. I definitely encourage anyone who insn't familiar with the available lines to use his site for the Tucks info. Most of the other stuff on firstchairmag.com is stale, but the Tucks stuff is still useful.

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DEVO

Was anyone planning on drinking and then skiing?? I always assumed we were talking about skiing for the day then drinking back at the shelters for the evening. So, who is planning on staying up at the shelters for at least Friday night? Might be a good idea to start getting a head count. I am in for staying up there. (that is unless the apres ski party is down in the valley)

People staying at Hermit lake Friday night: 1

awesome idea DEVO. if someone in the know can coordinate signing up those who can definately commit, I'm in. Isn't it a first come/first served deal with lodging up there tho ? I thought that's what EC posted

**Doremite** · 03-07-2008, 03:05 PM

If the shelters fill, there is always the option of camp sites just down the road from the visitor center. Sure, requires hikes from Pickhams each day, but hey, we're all in great shape come April anyways, right?

**strawjack** · 03-07-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

I also like to go up around 4/20. I have some friends that go at that time every year. Some spots are 55 degrees.

i'll have to bring the protractor this yr. i've measured a fair amount of terrain using a protractor and a ski pole taking readings every 10-15 yds or so. it gives you a new perspective for sure. several tight chutes in taos seemed at the time to be over 50degrees and the reality was they were in the 40-43 degree range.

above, where they mention the cornice in the left gully is kind of silly (not trying to bash anyone) but seriously, its a cornice!

the ice fall is just that...a fall. above it is in the 45 range at best and then you have the drop. you don't ski the drop, you drop the drop.

anyone can ski 50degrees for a couple turns. sustained 50 degree Chamonix style turns is whole different ball game.

**Diamond Joe** · 03-07-2008, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by DaveTV

Too bad we didn't have a huge house next to a great rock 'n roll pub that sleeps 40+ that people could stay at for like $15 a head - lemme rack my brain...

G*DDAMMIT!!! Where is this?!!!?

**valleygirl** · 03-07-2008, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by H-man

My .02?

Tucks is fun but Tucks is and can be dangerous and deadly. I plan to go up to ski. I will have my full compliment of backcountry touring gear including full avalanche equipment. I will drink a couple of beers, but I won't get out of hand. I have a lot of reasons for this, but foremost is safety. I should qualify that this statement is fully dependent on weather and avalanche conditions. If I don't feel it is safe to be in even the bowl, I would choose not to go any hire than Hojo's.

In regards to the date, It is just like any other backcountry location as who knows what it is going to be like at that particular time. Normal avalanche protocol needs to be followed in deciding if it is smart to go up there and then even where it is safe to ski or for that matter sit on that specific day. Traditionally, this is a relatively safe time frame, but this is a way different year snow pack wise. Most people up there have absolutely no clue what so ever could and has happened up there and they will not give it a second thought.

Personal responsibility.

EDIT: Even if avalanche conditions are good, falling ice is always an issue also. I have seen pieces the size of VW's come off the headwall and make it all the way to the floor and entrance into the bowl.

Hope your wisdom sinks into some places.

While personal responsibility is a key concept... it ranks up there w/common sense.

Listen, peeps. The Man knows.

Signed,
Not Your Mom

**DaveTV** · 03-07-2008, 10:08 PM

What H-man said - first time I was up there was in April and couldn't believe how the weather turned that day. And it was no kind of snow year like this - Myself, I'll wait till May to party up there this year

**awf170** · 03-08-2008, 07:58 AM

Not too be annoying and nit-picky but a ton of people are talking about delaying this because it is such a big snow year. It doesn't matter how big of a snow year it is, basically all that matters is the weather the week before the gathering. It could dump every day until around April 6th then if it cleared up and we got a good corn cycle there would be good, stable spring by that weekend. Or it good rain everyday and be warm, and kill almost all the snowpack, then snow 6 inches two days before and the avi danger would be too high.

**willywhit** · 03-08-2008, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Diamond Joe

G*DDAMMIT!!! Where is this?!!!?

Joe, PM me for details if you want.

http://lwm.cachefly.net/www.innerlep...016477221.html

**teledave** · 03-11-2008, 05:51 PM

From what I am reading the date is still 4/11-13, addressing weather and avy concerns it has always been in mind that if the conditions were not cooperative my group would be doing some lift serviced skiing in the area. No guarantees on the weather and conditions, but it does take some planning to get up there from down here.

Date wise, isn't the Inferno the next weekend?

**valleygirl** · 03-11-2008, 06:00 PM

t'dave (has its own funnies in my house)...

agreed. those are the dates. that's the plan. not safe = no go. at least for me & mine.

still have space if you need it.

VG

**danhikeski** · 03-12-2008, 05:17 PM

they are down 30"+ of snow there, weres the great snow year? I'm not trying to be the killjoy, but jan. up there sucked. No matter what the snow forcast is, take a look at mountwashington.org for the avy report before you head out, they will have it up at hermit lake around 8 (if my memory serves me)

**Natedogg** · 03-12-2008, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by willywhit

Joe, PM me for details if you want.

JESUS, stop changing your avatar, FRIUTLOOP!

Uggggggggggh, too many Harpoons tonite.e..e.e.

**willywhit** · 03-13-2008, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Natedogg

JESUS, stop changing your avatar, FRIUTLOOP!

Uggggggggggh, too many Harpoons tonite.e..e.e.

you're not the boss of me !!!

I found some TommyKnocker at Marty's for cheap - 4.99 a 6 but the date has expired, managed to get a TommyKnocker pint glass free, too- they're still good despite being past thier prime[/QUOTE]

**willywhit** · 03-15-2008, 04:26 PM

bump cuz I got this sweet pic from the top o' Wildcat last Friday.

and it's st patty's day !

ya fookers

http://lwm.cachefly.net/www.innerlep...016477221.html

edit: I didn't take the pic, I thought my buddy did, it's actually a shot they put up on Wildcat.com

**Doremite** · 03-18-2008, 08:04 AM

FirstChair up in the Gulf of Slides yesterday. Looks like an epic Tucks season could be materializing.

http://timefortuckerman.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=9533

**EC_the_tash** · 03-19-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by willywhit

awesome idea DEVO. if someone in the know can coordinate signing up those who can definately commit, I'm in. Isn't it a first come/first served deal with lodging up there tho ? I thought that's what EC posted

That is what I posted... However, stopped in to chat with folks there yesterday to ask some questions, and they will take a reservation for groups of ten or more. So, if we wanted to get a head count on those interested in DEFINITELY SLEEPING ON FRI and SAT, we might be able to approach them with a reservation. I can check in on it tomorrow as to availability.

I haven't been on here in a while. damn

**willywhit** · 03-19-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by EC_the_tash

That is what I posted... However, stopped in to chat with folks there yesterday to ask some questions, and they will take a reservation for groups of ten or more. So, if we wanted to get a head count on those interested in DEFINITELY SLEEPING ON FRI and SAT, we might be able to approach them with a reservation. I can check in on it tomorrow as to availability.

I haven't been on here in a while. damn

keep up the good work and keep us posted !

**Arelius19** · 03-23-2008, 11:56 PM

I plan on hitting up Tucks that weekend for the first time ever with some friends.

Pray for good avi conditions and some epic skiing

**yodaottis** · 03-24-2008, 08:11 AM

Depending on conditions I'll make an effort to be there. It'll be my first time @ mt washington on skis and first time meeting some other maggots. Excited.
If the conditions are anything but ideal, probably not as I lack the proper gear/experience.

**Sphinx15** · 03-24-2008, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by yodaottis

Depending on conditions I'll make an effort to be there. It'll be my first time @ mt washington on skis and first time meeting some other maggots. Excited.
If the conditions are anything but ideal, probably not as I lack the proper gear/experience.

Same here +3. Looking forward to a great spring skiing weekend. Hopefully weather & conditions cooperate

**_Aaron_** · 03-26-2008, 01:45 PM

I may be game. Any mags wanna meet (anywhere between NEPA and tucks) and split gas? PM me.

**skiingsamurai** · 03-27-2008, 11:46 AM

myself, phall, soul_skier, samtheman, allentaylor, grubbers? and any other UVM mags will be coming. I dont know if were staying overnight, and where. We wont be camping in the ravine, thats for sure. But we have yet to talk about it. Anyone got some idears?

**Doremite** · 03-27-2008, 11:52 AM

^^^^^^I've just camped down the road from Pickhams. Few different sites toward Gorham work well. Also cheap motels in N. Conway with walking access to bars. Even skiing Saturday, skiing down, apres in lot, camp and hiking back up Sunday really isn't all that bad IMHO

**Alioops** · 03-27-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by skiingsamurai

myself, phall, soul_skier, samtheman, allentaylor, grubbers? and any other UVM mags will be coming. I dont know if were staying overnight, and where. We wont be camping in the ravine, thats for sure. But we have yet to talk about it. Anyone got some idears?

Depending on occupancy that weekend, I could probably get a decent/discounted rate at a hotel about 10 miles from Tux. There is also a few maggots here offering up space. VG has some room. EP and I have a tiny place, but we do have an spare room with a bed and a loft with plenty of floor space.