Girlfriend (hot SFW pics inside) is a skiing beginner: What to do?

[wren]

If you do YES where I typed NO:

She will end up crying
You will end up cursing
You will not get laid
You will masturbate
Your relationship will be history to be followed by a "I'm so ronery" thread

I agree with this. I kinda tried to teach an ex of mine to ski, and by kinda I mean I skied with her (wanting to pull my hair out) and gave her maximum 2 pointers all day. After the 2nd one I was told I was pushing my luck and if I said anything more she was going home. You are skating on very thin ice and it's not something I would recommend. Pony up for the lessons.

[klar]

get her an instructor. they exist for a reason. after a (short) while it becomes a matter of practice and gaining confidence more than anything else. ski with her then if you don't mind waiting and she doesn't mind being waited for. make sure she gets some mileage and also make sure you are not being nitpicky about her form. then a lesson every once in a while or patient advice from you if she will take it. hard to get said advice from a book, imo.
"wer viel fährt, wird schnell gut."

ps: i haven't forgotten about your pictures...


edit:

I should have said that I did take the Austrian Skiing Instructor Test when I was 20 and have taught little kids 7 years ago. Not that this is terribly important.

in that case dig out the lehrplan they gave you and reread that. assuming you took the anwärter, this will not last forever but should get you well beyond the first skiing holiday. people older than 5 usually benefit from a clear explanation of what happens when they do something and why, rather than: if it gets to fast, make a pizza.

[Telekóptero]

Yeah dude,
I'll agree that teaching girls is bad news.

Get her some lessons, Ski hard while she's in the lessons, take a break for some lunch and hot chocolate and then take it easy with her the rest of the day.

Rinse and repeat

Agreed.

and shame on you for no pics. shame, shame, shame. . .

[mr_gyptian]

My brother also had the very useful suggestion of going ski touring with her and then at the top of the mountain tell her:

"Ok, now ski this. I'll see you at the bottom."

This is all fun and games until she pops out of her ski.

there is a reason the ski school advertising at Aspen has many different incarnations of this line "Ski school too expensive? What was your last Marriage counseling bill?"

[Franz Klammer]

get her an instructor. they exist for a reason. after a (short) while it becomes a matter of practice and gaining confidence more than anything else. ski with her then if you don't mind waiting and she doesn't mind being waited for. make sure she gets some mileage and also make sure you are not being nitpicky about her form. then a lesson every once in a while or patient advice from you if she will take it. hard to get said advice from a book, imo.
"wer viel fährt, wird schnell gut."

Can I rent you for some private lessons with her? (Plane ticket not included ...)

Actually, one of the problems I now have is that everything comes to me intuitively and often I can't pinpoint what exactly people are doing wrong. So, in some sense a book would help me.

[Lonnie]

WTF! Where are the hot SFW pics?

False Advertising!

Agreed!!!

BOOOO!!!!!!!

PS If you're ever at Alta, I'd work with her (I'm on staff there.)

[puma]

Yeah dude,
I'll agree that teaching girls is bad news.

Get her some lessons, Ski hard while she's in the lessons, take a break for some lunch and hot chocolate and then take it easy with her the rest of the day.

Rinse and repeat

So true.

[pechelman]

Can I rent you for some private lessons with her? (Plane ticket not included ...)

Actually, one of the problems I now have is that everything comes to me intuitively and often I can't pinpoint what exactly people are doing wrong. So, in some sense a book would help me.

go in with mindset and you will fail

always look for what shes doing right and focus on that

[KillWW]

Once tried teaching my girlfriend in highschool to ski. she had never been on snow before. my methods included holding her jacket so she didn't pick up too much speed....skiing backwards in front of her to act as a "goalie" and not paying attention for the few seconds it took her to ski straight off the trail into the woods. she never skied with me again, cheated on me while i was on a ski trip and I broke up with her. (not because of the cheating but because she wouldn't stop fucking complaining about how she was cold). Now I date girls that can ski.

[Franz Klammer]

in that case dig out the lehrplan they gave you and reread that. people older than 5 usually benefit from a clear explanation of what happens when they do something and why, rather than: if it gets to fast, make a pizza.

I wish I still had that thing. My mother chucked it out about 5 years ago with all the other school textbooks!

[klar]

Actually, one of the problems I now have is that everything comes to me intuitively and often I can't pinpoint what exactly people are doing wrong. So, in some sense a book would help me.

this is why getting an instructor is a good idea. try getting a hold of a ösv lehrplan or something like that (although they are not terribly userfriendly). would love to teach her, just come and show her your beautiful home mountains

edit: you are too fast. i will see if i can scan mine somewhere.

[Crass3000]

Truth in this thread!

I tell my Mrs Webb to to keep her hands forward and don't be afraid to bend her knees and shift her weight while initiating a turn in crud. She tells me to "stop telling her what to do".

Ski instructor tells Mrs Webb to to keep her hands forward and don't be afraid to bend her knees and shift her weight while initiating a turn in crud. She tells me "that instructor is awesome, he's such a good skier. His tips really helped."

Yep this is pretty much how it goes. It's ALOT nicer to have someone else teach the basics. If you do it they will take it as you being overly critical at least in my experience. There's no way you can win without the instructor.

Whenever a beginner I have been with took a lesson they always seemed to come out of it happy and learned a few things that gave them more confidence.

[Franz Klammer]

klar, would this one be useful?

http://shop.ski-online.de/product_in...an-Praxis.html

[xtrmjoe]

I managed to do it. Though it does not work for everyone.
She was quite athletic already, vollyball, runner, horseback rider
I got some carver rentals
I picked 2 weekdays after a 12" dump so that we were not on sierra cement, but soft groomers
Did a direct to chairlift/paralell/tough green/easy blue run
Told her a little speed would help her turn
Had a bottle of bubbly with lunch and practiced my switch riding a lot
She was cruising all the blues by the end and wanted to know when we were going again

Good luck!

[Conundrum]

Do not teach her, do not give her tips. Give the instructor your money and a tip at the end of the lesson. It will feel like a waist-we've all been there. The instructor will tell your GF the exact same things you would have but she will think the instructor is cool. If you do it, she will think you are an egotistical asshole who thinks he knows everything.

It's a bummer but if you think about like it's legal prostitution, it doesn't seem so bad. You pay someone else money to get you laid. Trust me.

You duped me on the pics.

[girlski0912]

Loveskis with beginner skiers will ultimately end in tears. You can do one of two things: pawn her off on a ski instructor, or take her out yourself, scare the shit out of her so she will never want to ski with you again.

Nononono...he wants to ski with her in the future. It's getting her to the point that she can hang without breaking up first.

Your own qualifications as an instructor are not at issue here. You are the boyfriend and at some level your constructive criticism is just plain criticism and is personal. She will not be objectively listening as she would with an instructor. Instead she might get hurt by constant cues coming from you (and they will be constant because she is just learning).

I want to learn to tele and my boy rips on tele. But by no means would I want him to teach me from the beginning though I have alpined for 27 years and am athletic. The reason being that I know how frustrated I become when I am learning new things and I would rather have a total outsider guiding me through the process who has no personal investment in me. It's just easier that way. But once I get it down, I want to continue skiing with my boy who can give me good tips and sets a good example (on skis...).

Simplify your life and let someone start from the beginning and then take her from there. I think she would appreciate that.

[Van_skier]

go in with mindset and you will fail

always look for what shes doing right and focus on that

not quite.

I'd say you always have to vocalize what she's doing right and be positive. However, if you want to help someone progress, you still need to figure out what the person is doing wrong and then give tips to improve that, without being negative.

Example: You notice she keeps her arms forward but too low. You let her know that she's doing well keeping her arms forward, but that it would improve her balance to keep them a bit higher... but never use negative language...

[Van_skier]

Nononono...he wants to ski with her in the future. It's getting her to the point that she can hang without breaking up first.

Your own qualifications as an instructor are not at issue here. You are the boyfriend and at some level your constructive criticism is just plain criticism and is personal. She will not be objectively listening as she would with an instructor. Instead she might get hurt by constant cues coming from you (and they will be constant because she is just learning).

I want to learn to tele and my boy rips on tele. But by no means would I want him to teach me from the beginning though I have alpined for 27 years and am athletic. The reason being that I know how frustrated I become when I am learning new things and I would rather have a total outsider guiding me through the process who has no personal investment in me. It's just easier that way. But once I get it down, I want to continue skiing with my boy who can give me good tips and sets a good example (on skis...).

Simplify your life and let someone start from the beginning and then take her from there. I think she would appreciate that.

Very well said. Agree 100%

[GapersGoHome]

First: I've lost more girlfriends teaching them to ski than I have to hot kiwi instructor dudes with accents... If you go the former, it'll be bad news, and as Jim S. said, you'll be singing the "I'm so ronery" Kim Jong Il song. If you go with the latter, it's really not your fault. He had an accent, and you were going to lose her eventually anyway.

Second: Thread is USELESS without pics.

[klar]

klar, would this one be useful?

http://shop.ski-online.de/product_in...an-Praxis.html

sure, basically it's all the same thing and none of it is particularly good reading. that one is probably a lot more than you would ever need or want to know. zeee tschermans are thorough like that.

[Jim S]

Forget skiing, do what I did: put the bitch to use in bed and then have her shovel the driveway. Be sure to bark your command with a
faux red-neck tonal inflection:



The follow up:

[Pablo Escobar]

franz: you are seriously slacking on the pics. i am starting to wonder if this "girl" even exists at all or is really someone named "dieter" with a raging latex fetish.

post the pic dude.

[dookeyXXX]

This very same subject was covered in great depth earlier in the season by a young lad on the East Coast whose GF bought him a trip to Utah.

It was going to be his first trip to Utah and the GF wasn't a skier.

The advice given to him (from multiple sources) was thus:

1. Get the GF a morning lesson
2. Go rip/do laps in the morning by yourself or with some Maggots
3. Meet GF for leisurely lunch.
4. During lunch talk up her lesson. Listen to her and show genuine interest in what she did/learned, etc.
5. Go skiing with the GF in the afternoon and let her show you what she was taught. Be patient and bask in the bunny hill ambiance
6. Take GF for apres drinks and then nice dinner
7. Repeat the process until she can rip and shred on her own.

BTW, here's the post about the kid from the EC going to Utah with his non-skier GF:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...tah+girlfriend

It echoes a lot of the advice already given.

[Franz Klammer]

First: I've lost more girlfriends teaching them to ski than I have to hot kiwi instructor dudes with accents... If you go the former, it'll be bad news, and as Jim S. said, you'll be singing the "I'm so ronery" Kim Jong Il song. If you go with the latter, it's really not your fault. He had an accent, and you were going to lose her eventually anyway.

The good news is, I have an accent too!

[The Dad]

1. Get the GF a morning lesson
2. Go rip/do laps in the morning by yourself or with some Maggots
3. Meet GF for leisurely lunch.
4. During lunch talk up her lesson. Listen to her and show genuine interest in what she did/learned, etc.
5. Go skiing with the GF in the afternoon and let her show you what she was taught. Be patient and bask in the bunny hill ambiance
6. Take GF for apres drinks and then nice dinner
7. Repeat the process until she can rip and shred on her own.

I can't believe you left out the all-important:

6.5. Der Poopenhausen.