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    Financial Conspiracy Theory

    Lots of really bad things happening in the financial world right now and as Morgan Stanley becomes the latest to ship a big chunk of its ownership off to China it got me thinking about what's happenning and how it has come to pass.

    Of course, this type of thinking can infest ones brain with ideas of those in the world with ulterior intentions. I was thinking of the recent purchases by sovereign funds like Abu Dhabi and China's and I can't help to think the current scenario may have been forseeable to those wanting to shift the global basis of power over the long term.

    It is consistently written that the Chinese think in the long term. Long term meaning decades and longer, not years like most Americans believe the long term to be. Much has also been written about the Chinese becoming the second largest holder of U.S. Treasuries. Many conspiracy theorists believed the Chinese would begin diversifying their treasury holdings as the U.S. dollar continued to fall.

    But I have a different thought; perhaps the Chinese and other large holders/acquirers of U.S. debt have been happily purchasing treasury securities and financing our wars, because they understood that over the long term, lower yields in the U.S. would be our downfall, or at least make our seemingly most valuable or influential companies need their assistance.

    The thought goes like this: The Chinese understand our nation's greed. They have increasingly been feeding it with cheap consumer goods for a long time. Historically low interest rates (averge 90-day T-bill rate of 3.97% since 1997)have been kept artificially low by a few methods, 1) Demand for available yields from foreign countries (if noone buys our debt at current rates, we couldn't keep rates so low) 2) We exported our monetary inflation to foreign nations. Essentially this was done by purchasing cheaper goods from overseas producers in mass quantities. Global trade allowed prices of goods tracked by inflation indices to remain relatively tame, while those items stripped out of inflation gauges, like energy prices for example, were directly showing the effects of global shipping of these "cheap" goods. Low inflation gaugues allow real interest rates to appear lower than they should be and ulitmately keep US$ borrowing rates relatively low.

    So the Chinese and other nations are happily accepting our $$ for cheap goods, expensive oil and other commodities, etc., meanwhile watching our greed manifest itself with the overleveraging of individuals, corporations, etc. When the lending institutions who fed this greed finally are forced to realize it's been over done, all they can do to stay solvent (protect their reserve balances) is to sell large pieces of themselves to the Chinese, Middle East and Singaporeans who have been sitting back and accepting 4-6% interest for years waiting...waiting...waiting for us to destroy ourselves.

    ...or not.

    So, what has been giving you cheap thrills?
    ...And the greatest ice must crumble when it's flower's time to grow.

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    from the 1974 movie Network. Nothing has changed:

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/Movi...hnetwork4.html

    You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

    You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, Reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

    It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

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    Oh the irony. Unfettered capitalism is turning America into Communist China's jailhouse bitch.

    Todd Harrison of Minyanville has been ringing this bell for a bit.

    http://www.minyanville.com/articles/.../index/a/12913
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    The Trilateral Commission, World Bank, Council on Foriegn Relations, the usual stuff.

    http://carpenoctem.tv/cons/nwo.html
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    You forgot English Pounds and Eskimo Pence...
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    Sorry to hijack, but do love this song, facking brilliant:

    Ring! Ring! It's 7:00 A.M.!
    Move y'self to go again
    Cold water in the face
    Brings you back to this awful place
    Knuckle merchants and you bankers, too
    Must get up an' learn those rules
    Weather man and the crazy chief
    One says sun and one says sleet
    A.M., the F.M. the P.M. too
    Churning out that boogaloo
    Gets you up and gets you out
    But how long can you keep it up?
    Gimme Honda, Gimme Sony
    So cheap and real phony
    Hong Kong dollars and Indian cents
    English pounds and Eskimo pence


    You lot! What?
    Don't stop! Give it all you got!
    You lot! What?
    Don't stop! Yeah!


    Working for a rise, better my station
    Take my baby to sophistication
    She's seen the ads, she thinks it's nice
    Better work hard - I seen the price
    Never mind that it's time for the bus
    We got to work - an' you're one of us
    Clocks go slow in a place of work
    Minutes drag and the hours jerk


    "When can I tell 'em wot I do?
    In a second, maaan...oright Chuck!"


    Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss
    It's our profit, it's his loss
    But anyway lunch bells ring
    Take one hour and do your thanng!
    Cheeesboiger!


    What do we have for entertainment?
    Cops kickin' Gypsies on the pavement
    Now the news - snap to attention!
    The lunar landing of the dentist convention
    Italian mobster shoots a lobster
    Seafood restaurant gets out of hand
    A car in the fridge
    Or a fridge in the car?
    Like cowboys do - in T.V. land


    You lot! What? Don't stop. Huh?


    So get back to work an' sweat some more
    The sun will sink an' we'll get out the door
    It's no good for man to work in cages
    Hits the town, he drinks his wages
    You're frettin', you're sweatin'
    But did you notice you ain't gettin'?
    Don't you ever stop long enough to start?
    To take your car outta that gear
    Don't you ever stop long enough to start?
    To get your car outta that gear
    Karlo Marx and Fredrich Engels
    Came to the checkout at the 7-11
    Marx was skint - but he had sense
    Engels lent him the necessary pence


    What have we got? Yeh-o, magnificence!!


    Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi
    Went to the park to check on the game
    But they was murdered by the other team
    Who went on to win 50-nil
    You can be true, you can be false
    You be given the same reward
    Socrates and Milhous Nixon
    Both went the same way - through the kitchen
    Plato the Greek or Rin Tin Tin
    Who's more famous to the billion millions?
    News Flash: Vacuum Cleaner Sucks Up Budgie
    Oooohh...bub-bye


    Magnificence!!


    FUCKING LONG, INNIT?


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    When I see a song beginning with "Ring, Ring" I instantly think its the banana-phone calling.
    ...And the greatest ice must crumble when it's flower's time to grow.

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