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Does anyone else find it slightly bizarre that WPG is in extremely high demand when BP couldn't survive?
Admittedly, BP may lack the cachet of whizzing around @ $500 per day with a bunch of onepiecers, but still...
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Originally posted by Buster Highmen
per day with a bunch of onepiecers but still...
thats fagbag!! why is every one so PC in one thread and then flip flops in others :D
I think that BP just got caught at the wrong time by the hyper competative front range market. If front range season passes were still selling for $800, I think they would still be in business.
All that aside, I hate it when WPG fly overhead at Alta, even though I'm not having the purity of the backcountry spank.
I imagine if an outfit like WPG showed up at BP to fly skiers to the top of fairly easily hikeable terrain, I'd be as pissed off as the Little Cottonwood turn-earners are.
I would expect you to be more pissed. But that's just me.Quote:
Originally posted by Pinner
I imagine if an outfit like WPG showed up at BP to fly skiers to the top of fairly easily hikeable terrain, I'd be as pissed off as the Little Cottonwood turn-earners are.
More pissed than the righteous zealots hiking LCC?Quote:
Originally posted by Buster Highmen
I would expect you to be more pissed. But that's just me.
That's unpossible!
I would have an unbridled petulant frenzy. You know I would.Quote:
Originally posted by Pinner
More pissed than the righteous zealots hiking LCC?
That's unpossible!
I hope some of youse runtfrangers are heading down to the San Hoohans: 26"+ and still storming!
I'm going to check into airfare today...
I actually get stoked when I see those birds flying around Alta
I know if I was BC working for the goods I would be equally stoked.
Because, someday I will be up there. :D
I guess it sucks to be me; blissfully unbothered by perceived luxury and the people that have access to their on rendition of it.
what ever that means
:p
Sunday, sunday, sunday! Pm if you are going.Quote:
Originally posted by Buster Highmen
I would have an unbridled petulant frenzy. You know I would.
I hope some of youse runtfrangers are heading down to the San Hoohans: 26"+ and still storming!
I'm going to check into airfare today...
Seems like if they were given a little more elbow room there would be less overlap of BC and heli-skiers, eliminating some problems.
:confused:
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Originally posted by MacDaddy
I know if I was BC working for the goods I would be equally stoked.
Really? You'd be stoked to spend two hours at the crack of dawn setting a quiet and rewarding skintrack to a virgin powder stash and then have a big old smelly chopper disgorge half a dozen wealthy terminal intermediate fagbaggers horking about the "freedom of the hills" at the top of their lungs? Interesting.
Picture: you get out of your A-star expecting a nice day of heli-skiing, and what do you see? Skin tracks marring the otherwise unblemished vista, with a bunch hacky-sack playing stinky hippies skinning up to where you were going to ski. Some of them even smell of mari-jah-wanna.
You paid so dearly for this?
I think it's all perspective, isn't it. Never really understood what the big deal is about a helicopter flying overhead--course they shouldn't poach what the hikers are heading for, but still...
The one day I got to fly with them, a couple of hikers were skinning up to the same area we just landed on. Our guide made us wait for them, then gave them first dibs.
That's the way it should be, if you want to ski the same aspect, wait for the man-powered to get to it.Quote:
Originally posted by KevinDineen
The one day I got to fly with them, a couple of hikers were skinning up to the same area we just landed on. Our guide made us wait for them, then gave them first dibs.
Can definitely see where getting your line poached after skiining for it would be very frustrating.
Yea actually I would be stoked for them. because they have the means to create the oportunity to be there.Quote:
Originally posted by Pinner
Really? You'd be stoked to spend two hours at the crack of dawn setting a quiet and rewarding skintrack to a virgin powder stash and then have a big old smelly chopper disgorge half a dozen wealthy terminal intermediate fagbaggers horking about the "freedom of the hills" at the top of their lungs? Interesting.
Also stoked that I live in a place that allows me to have the oportunity to do the same some day.
Stoked as I would be to be able to have BC acess like I do.
I guess its all relative and I'm too happy all the time
Hacky Sack is cool and I can rip the shit out of that game.
Marihuanna & Hacky sack isnt just for hippies :D
1,500,000 people live within an hour of those canyons. People looking for the solitude of the backcountry should look elsewhere.
If the people that don't like WPG so much want to get rid of them, they can ask for the area to be declared wilderness. But one of the reasons they don't is that they want to mountain bike in the summer and they couldn't then. Heh. Share the damn mountain. (And no, I can't afford to heliski, I earn those turns.)
drC
I could care less what the helicopter is doing, even if they brought me a chilled bong and Portland funkweed.
I can easily afford it, I just don't like the noise.
The perspective of a bc skier who spends 90% of his day in the bc:
Expand the Powderbird guides permit area! I have run into the WPB many times in teh backcountry. I have even flown with them on two occassions. They have always treated me with respect. They have given me avie reports from their early morning testing. They have told me areas that they are going to be flying (which they now do on a regular basis through UAFC). I have witnessed first hand on three seperate occassion they being the first responders to complete avie burials, I've also seen them make their customers wait for them to finish with a rescue operation.
I always have to laugh when you hear some of the self righteous bc skiers yell at them, disrupt their landings, etc. Especially when you see Save Our Canyon members (Alexis Kellner) ripping the shit out of (illegal) off road trails in Moab, causing much more environmental damage to the desert ecosystem then the helicopters every do to the wasatch. The powderbird guides are a very important resource to the Wastach and they should be able to operate throughout the Central Wasatch. The days they fly should be controlled, but they should have more days available. If bc skiers want pure solitude, go into the wilderness areas in the Wasatch.
Like us? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Pinner
wealthy terminal intermediate fagbaggers
http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic20087.jpg
Cool shit like ^ that doesn't happen everyday. I think the whole heli thing is a really awesome experience. I think everyone should do it once in their life.
I understand that folks want to earn their turns and all that, which is also, a really fun experience. Peaceful, solitude and hard work...but I tell you, there is nothing like the heli. I think both ways of skiing are great. If i'm touring and I hear the heli...i'll think back to what a sweet day that was for me.
While i don't live there and know pretty much nothing on this subject, i like your point.Quote:
Originally posted by flykdog
1,500,000 people live within an hour of those canyons. People looking for the solitude of the backcountry should look elsewhere.
When I'm backcountry skiing in LCC and the chopper flies overhead, I always whip out my penis and wave it at them.
Just think of how seeing some guy waving his little peiner at them will make the skiers on the chopper remember the day even more fondly.
Note: Unfortunately I wasn't up there when Altachic was flying. Rowrrr!
I'm really glad you were in Tahoe that day.Quote:
Originally posted by phUnk
When I'm backcountry skiing in LCC and the chopper flies overhead, I always whip out my penis and wave it at them.
Just think of how seeing some guy waving his little peiner at them will make the skiers on the chopper remember the day even more fondly.
Note: Unfortunately I wasn't up there when Altachic was flying. Rowrrr!
I can hear the comments now, "Was there something in that guy's hand? No, I didn't think so, either."Quote:
Originally posted by phUnk
When I'm backcountry skiing in LCC and the chopper flies overhead, I always whip out my penis and wave it at them.
Just think of how seeing some guy waving his little peiner at them will make the skiers on the chopper remember the day even more fondly.
Note: Unfortunately I wasn't up there when Altachic was flying. Rowrrr!
Well that is pretty damn rare. In BC when they see you hiking up something they land on top of it and ski it right in front of you. They even ski right in on top of you. Inconsiderate and unsafe.Quote:
Originally posted by KevinDineen
The one day I got to fly with them, a couple of hikers were skinning up to the same area we just landed on. Our guide made us wait for them, then gave them first dibs.
I think that the classic one for me was when a bunch of heliskiers with Baldface Lodge were skiing another slope until they saw us and then they landed and skied right in on top of us with their guide John Buffery. To make matters worse the helicopter landed right in the middle of our skin track and when the clients skied too low, the guide marched them right up our skintrack for about 400 meters, postholing the shit out of it. To this day I want to choke that damn guide everytime I see him.
We've even had a couple of Baldface clients tell us to get the hell out of "their" terrain. It just about started a full on war. It really made me think about getting a REV 800 and showing them whose terrain it was.