A good all mtn. twin that's long but not too fat, does it exist?

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08-27-2007, 02:32 PM
brutah

A good all mtn. twin that's long but not too fat, does it exist?

Looking for a ski that is 188-196 cm in length, 74-86 mm under foot, maybe 15-20 m turn radius, with a raised tail or full twin...... something like a long park ski that also rips in the bumps.....

Does it exist? Past or present? what are your suggestions??

I'm 6'2, 190 lbs.

current skis:

191 armada ANTs
195 Praxis
198 Solomon Super Force 9
185 Norica Enforcers (these are going soon)
188 Rossi Scratch BC (these are what I am looking to replace)
some other long and straight skis
08-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Damian Sanders

Mojo 90's?
08-27-2007, 02:54 PM
pzink

Seconded. I have these and they have been a good all mountain ski.

http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...cm-p-2295.html
08-27-2007, 02:55 PM
Steven S. Dallas

Volkl V-Pro.
08-27-2007, 02:56 PM
Toadman

STOCKLI Snake BC
08-27-2007, 02:57 PM
beaterdit

I've got two pairs of Line Dragons I'll sell ya for $50. 193, 75 underfoot, soft, full twin.

Crappy skis.
08-27-2007, 03:04 PM

193 line dragons?
08-27-2007, 03:16 PM
bossass

Mojo 90s.
08-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Poop~Ghost

dynastar legend 8000 or 8880
08-27-2007, 04:19 PM
beaterdit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squatch

193 line dragons?

Line's first ski, also known as the "Ostness Dragon". Black sparkly topsheet with gold dragons on the tail. Super soft white bases.

They are good in the bumps.
08-27-2007, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaterd

Line's first ski, also known as the "Ostness Dragon". Black sparkly topsheet with gold dragons on the tail. Super soft white bases.

They are good in the bumps.

I actually have a pair. Never skied them yet. Didn't refresh and saw that it had already been suggested.

Thanks for the history lesson, though. ;)
08-27-2007, 04:23 PM
bisnibble

A Second for v-pro's--- although i am replacing mine this year with some moment reno's
08-27-2007, 04:38 PM
Vitamin I

Outside the park, I always preferred the feel of the old 188 AK Enemy (2002 bird wing graphics, 2003 goblin graphics) to the old 188 Scratch BC, but not sure if you want its 30m radius.

I like my 186 Mojo 90's, short radius, but skis short because mount point is pretty far forward, so I wish it were a bit longer, so 193 Mojo 90's should be a good pick for you (although 90mm is outside your stated 74-86 range).

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08-27-2007, 04:46 PM
brutah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas

Volkl V-Pro.

yea, these skis were real sick, but do they make these anymore?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Sanders

Mojo 90's?

ummm i think i like these....... but can they handle short quick radius turns through the bumps???
08-27-2007, 04:49 PM
Steven S. Dallas

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUTAH

yea, these skis were real sick, too bad there no more

Hey, he said "past or present." I've seen some 190s kicking around swaps in the last couple years, too. Mostly, though, I just wanted to win this thread, and I totally did.
08-27-2007, 05:01 PM
brutah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squatch

193 line dragons?

these are not good skis, i really didn't like too many of lines first attempts at skis. the construction gave the skis a weird feel. Last line ski i skied were 2004 or 2005 line chronics, I borrowed a buddy's pair for the day; they still had that same feeling and these bad boys were heavy.
08-27-2007, 05:08 PM
Phall

volkl karma or this years bridge
08-28-2007, 09:17 PM
skikola

pocket rockets or first gen guns.
great all mountain twins.
08-28-2007, 09:30 PM
skiwithcharlie

MSP 187cm...suppa stiff for a twin, good graphics, can hold an edge in any condition and its sorta midfat by todays standarts 96mm...just what your looking for!
08-29-2007, 05:59 AM
HitMe

If an old model could make you happy, look into the Völkl G41/G4/AX4 198. 83mm waist, I believe. I still have a pair in my garage.
08-29-2007, 07:04 AM
Lakelander

189 public enemies
08-29-2007, 07:20 AM
hemas

Extrem AK4
08-29-2007, 08:17 AM
warthog

V-pro was my go to ski when demoing. Only the deepest days would get any other ski.

I bought Head Mojo 90's 2 years ago. Similar feel. Twin tip. Decent in bumps, but not a bump ski. Floaty when you need it, and stable on everything. Mount them back a bit for best results.

Edit- make that the 724 Pro. Still a great ski, but 78 or less under foot I think. Not sure what lengths they come in. For what it is worth, I loved this ski. But, it was during my transition from 210 Pre Slaloms, before I really got used to the idea of a wide ski being useful.
08-29-2007, 12:22 PM
Bandit Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUTAH

Looking for a ski that is 188-196 cm in length, 74-86 mm under foot, maybe 15-20 m turn radius, with a raised tail or full twin...... something like a long park ski that also rips in the bumps.....

Does it exist? Past or present? what are your suggestions??

Good luck with that width waist. A Mojo 90 in the 193 is the closest thing, and many have mentioned that already, but it has a 90-mm (or rather 89-mm) waist.
08-29-2007, 12:53 PM
milkman

Movement Thunder 122-89-111 (only 187)
Stockli Schmidt-122-89-112 (188)
Or try the old Stockli Stormrider FRY's 109-73-99 (194)
http://cgi.ebay.com/03-Stockli-Storm...QQcmdZViewItem

Edit....Didn't see the full twin part....my bad....
08-29-2007, 12:55 PM
hemas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit Man

Good luck with that width waist. A Mojo 90 in the 193 is the closest thing, and many have mentioned that already, but it has a 90-mm (or rather 89-mm) waist.

Guess you didn't click on the AK4 link... 182cm, full twin, stiff allmountainflex and yes, 83mm in the waist.
08-29-2007, 05:30 PM
Bandit Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemas

Guess you didn't click on the AK4 link... 182cm, full twin, stiff allmountainflex and yes, 83mm in the waist.

He said 188-cm would be the low end for length, so I was trying to factor that in too. If you go in the shorter 180 lengths, I agree that your choices open up.