"EXPECTED WEDNESDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING INTO
90S TO AROUND 100 ACROSS THE AREA. THIS 20 TO 30 DEGREES ABOVE
NORMAL AND WILL CREATE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE CONDITIONS."
20 to 30 degrees above normal!
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"EXPECTED WEDNESDAY WITH HIGHS REACHING INTO
90S TO AROUND 100 ACROSS THE AREA. THIS 20 TO 30 DEGREES ABOVE
NORMAL AND WILL CREATE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE CONDITIONS."
20 to 30 degrees above normal!
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Global warming is just a fad.
normal temperature fluctuations are also a fad!
Please define 'normal', on a global scale, followed with reports of rivers in the yellowstone area reaching 83 degrees, for the first time EVER, and boiling trout to death.
Forget about Greenland, Antarctica, the Arctic, the retreating glaciers in S. America, Tibet, Russia, Europe, Canada, and the Rockies.
Oh, and the enlarging of the Sahara, the Gobi, the Atacama, and the drought in Australia.
That must all be bullshit.
Are you saying the Sahara is made of bullshit? That would take alot of bullsQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit
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Originally Posted by rideit
Actually, Greenland might be just the place to be in 20 years.
I wonder what the per acre cost of land is right now in Greenland...
That's pretty low normal, doc.Quote:
Originally Posted by minddoc
I think you need to have your head examined.
"boiling trout to death"Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Last I checked boiling was roughly 212F ( variations of course for different elevations/ and or atmospheric pressure), not 83F.
Ok, finished with getting checked.
The point is nothing good can happen when temps are above 80. Except maybe body temp.
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Originally Posted by splat
Hey doc, Are you up in B'ham now?
It's all in your mind, doc.
Actually, I hate this shit.
I was out in 102 temp today and was grateful when I left the shop that is was a chilly 92.
You'd feel better about it if you had made the Hood itty bitty mini.
No, still working in Ellensburg. I am doing some climbing near Bellingham. The glaciers are melting!
Climbing is nowhere near as fun as skiing or cycling. Way more work. To be honest with you I’m not even sure why I climb, it sucks most of the time.
I’m still not sure where I will be in September hopefully near Splat;) . It would be nice if I end up in Ellensburg, even if it is 100 here. If not here I will most likely end up back in Cal. maybe Tahoe.
Ellensburg may not have anything going on, but its close to the mountains, great skiing, climbing, Cheep, and I can pretend I’m smart here and know one really questions it.
Here is a little TR, no skiing. It was snowing on Mt Stuart the end of June. Now 100… I ran into my Avatar up there on Stuart he was upset I was using his photo.
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Originally Posted by Mofro261
Someone needs to tell Cheney to turn off that damn Halliburton global climate change machine...
Please take note that the state in question recorded the state record over 45 years ago, you know, before I became popular. While you're at it, notice only one record high has been recorded in the 2000's. Only 4 recorded in the 90's. Now look at the 30's. 24 recorded high temperature records in the 1930's.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
The numbers don't lie, but the special interest groups, corporations and politicians are all making a fortune off of you. Keep fluffing me, for their sake.
State high temperature records
State Temp Date Station Elevation (feet)
Ala. 112 Sept. 5, 1925 Centerville 345
Alaska 100 June 27, 1915 Ft. Yukon 420*
Ariz. 128 June 29, 1994 Lake Havasu 505
Ark. 120 Aug. 10, 1936 Ozark 396
Calif. 134 July 10, 1913 Death Valley N/A
Colo. 118 July 11, 1888 Bennett 5,484
Conn. 106 July 15, 1995 Danbury 450
Del. 110 July 21, 1930 Millsboro 20
Fla. 109 June 29, 1931 Monticello 207
Ga. 112 July 24, 1952 Louisville 132
Hawaii 100 April 27,1931 Pahala 850
Idaho 118 July 28, 1934 Orofino 1,027
Ill. 117 July 14, 1954 E. St Louis 410
Ind. 116 July 14, 1936 Collegeville 672
Iowa 118 July 20, 1934 Keokuk 614
Kansas 121 July 24, 1936 Alton 1,651
Ky. 114 July 28, 1930 Greensburg 581
La. 114 Aug. 10, 1936 Plain Dealing 268
Maine 105 July 10, 1911 N. Bridgton 450
Md. 109 July 10, 1936 Cumberland and Frederick 623, 325
Mass. 107 Aug. 2, 1975 New Bedford and Chester 120, 640
Mich. 112 July 13, 1936 Mio 963
Minn. 114 July 6, 1936 Moorhead 904
Miss. 115 July 29, 1930 Holly Springs 600
Mo 118 July 14, 1954 Warsaw and Union 705, 560
Mont. 117 July 5, 1937 Medicine Lake 1,950
Neb. 118 July 24, 1936 Minden 2,169
Nev. 125 June 29, 1994 Laughlin 605
N.H. 106 July 4, 1911 Nashua 125
N.J. 110 July 10, 1936 Runyon 18
N.M. 122 June 27, 1994 Lakewood N/A
N.Y. 108 July 22, 1926 Troy 35
N.C. 110 Aug. 21, 1983 Fayetteville 213
N.D. 121 July 6, 1936 Steele 1,857
Ohio 113 July 21, 1934 Gallipolis 673
Okla. 120 June 27, 1994 Tipton 1,350
Ore. 119 Aug. 10, 1898 Pendleton 1,074
Pa. 111 July 10, 1936 Phoenixville 100
R.I. 104 Aug. 2, 1975 Providence 51
S.C. 111 June 28, 1954 Camden 170
S.D. 120 July 15, 2006 Kelly Ranch/Usta 2,339
Tenn. 113 Aug. 9, 1930 Perryville 377
Texas 120 Aug. 12, 1936 Seymour 1,291
Utah 117 July 5, 1985 Saint George 2,880
Vt. 105 July 4, 1911 Vernon 310
Va. 110 July 15, 1954 Balcony Falls 725
Wash. 118 Aug. 5, 1961 Ice Harbor Dam 475 475
W. Va. 112 July 10, 1936 Martinsburg 435
Wis. 114 July 13, 1936 Wisconsin Dells 900
Wyo. 116 Aug. 8, 1983 Basin 3,500
I plan on beating the heat by spending at least half my day standing around on fresh 320 degree asphalt :cussing:
If your saying that global woarming is not a problem. I hope your right. I love skiing.
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Originally Posted by GlobalWarming
The problem is that the AC in my Jeep is out and that damn thing is an oven.
I'd fix it, but fear ripping a hole in the ozone should I accidentally leak some CFC into the ionosphere.
Global warming is a problem, but it's being marketed just like anything else. A lot of BS clouding a serious problem.
Where were the GL cries when Baker was dumped with 1140" just 9 years ago?
I am an average rising temperature of the entire globe as a whole. Just pointing out regional temperature fluctuations and claims that deserts are getting larger (which is a precipitation factor not directly affected by me) is ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by minddoc
Quote:
Originally Posted by jryoung
Was that 9 years ago already? ... The climatologists have been forecasting increased precipitation in Western WA during the winters and increasing heat during the summers....which correlates well to the weather we've been seeing.
Umm, GW, you need to go and do a little more research, respectfully.
US averages are irrelevant, they comprise a tiny fraction of the globe's surface, and mostly within currently temperate climes...but that is changing.
BTW, how can one claim that precipitation is not affected by temperature, either up or down?
That is simply....ignorant.
Or willfully obtuse.
So, how are people making fortunes on GW hype, exactly?
Please expound.
I don't get the 'expose reality= huge dollars" angle...I certainly haven't given extra cash to any charlatans...what is your point?
Haven't petro companies vastly increased their profits due to 'marketed' fears?
Is that any odder, or less worthy of scrutiny?
Or any more (or less) real, in terms of what it has cost YOU?
Who, exactly, are making these 'billions', off of exploring the reality of this potential threat?
Please be specific.
As in NAMES.
Gracias.
(Edit: Grrr plainly makes a point clear...regional areas will be affected differently by the global climatic changes, but taken as a whole, the picture is NOT pretty. Open your eyes to the entire planet, and not simply some regional anomoly. That year was not the best for many, many other places on the planet.)
Wake up.
And *IF* I may be wrong, well, AWESOME!!!! I'M PSYCHED!!!
YOU WIN!!!! CELEBRATE!!!!
BUT...If I am right....uhhh....bummer.
Haven't you ever heard of risk management?
You can call yourself an "honorary native" of Western Washington if you start bitching whenever the high temp goes above 80 for more than two days in a row. Bonus points for suggesting that we "need some rain." :)
Yeah, but 90+ is too damned hot.
AFRICAQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit
HIGHEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Al'Aziziyah, Libya 57.7 C (135.9 F) on the 13th September, 1922
LOWEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Ifrane, Morocco -23.9 C (-11.0 F) on the 11th February, 1935
ANTARCTICA
HIGHEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Hope Bay 14.6 C (58.3 F) on the 5th January, 1974
LOWEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Vostock II -89.2 C (-128.6 F) on the 21st July, 1983
ASIA
HIGHEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Tirat Tsvi, Israel 53.9 C (129.0 F) on the 21st June, 1942
LOWEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Verkhoyansk, Siberia -69.8 C (-93.6 F) on the 7th February, 1892
AUSTRALIA
HIGHEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Oodnadatta, South Australia 50.7 C (123.3 F) on the 2nd January, 1960
LOWEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Charlotte Pass, New South Wales -23.0 C (-9.4 F) on the 29th June, 1994
SOUTH AMERICA
HIGHEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Rivadavia, Argentina 48.9 C (120.0 F) on the 11th December, 1905
LOWEST RECORDED TEMPERATURE:
* Sarmiento, Argentina -33.0 C (-27.4 F) on the 1st June, 1907
Please notice most of the dates closest to the present are record LOW temperatures.
Don't have the time to answer the rest of your hoopity-hoopla, with all due respect of course.
But wait, you asserted earlier that 'you' represented an increase in global temperature.
So, where do you stand...is the planet getting hotter (and changing as a result, for whatever outcome) or not?
Do you exist, or do you not?
And how do you reconcile the dramatic moisture (drought) changes globally, irrelevant of those curious datum examples?
Are we 'all good' in terms of our energy choices?
Or does it simply not matter, in your opinion?
Should we simply continue as we have been doing, or what?
Do you have a reasoned opinion on human effect?
Or is that beneath you to consider?
Please ponder...
I'd prefer GW were a hoax. Yet I believe rideit makes a solid point.
And what if it were a hoax. Should I feel swindled if I choose to have a smaller impact? So I turn off the ligts when I am not using them. Not a bad deal to hedge a bet. Otherwise, we may be buying land in Greenland - if we make it to that point.
dude it's been raining pretty consitently on the east coast here for the last 6 weeks. Half the places that were in drought are now flooded.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
And besides the drought here has nothing to do with global warming, Australia has always had long periods of little rain followed by short burts of heavy rain. It's just weather patterns.
screw the extremes, GW. instead, base your argument (if you have such) on the means for the last century.
i'll start you off with a couple of graphs, because they are so nice to look at:
this one is from here:
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/...106meant03.gif
this one is from here:
http://reports.eea.europa.eu/signals-2000/en/fig8.6.gif
and a bonus one, just because it's so shiny:
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/te...ure/nhshgl.gif
and, just for the record, if you think that a lack of temperature extremes for a certain period means that there is no change in the average for that period you fail at basic statistics.
Fuck, enough with the its 20~30 above normal its gota be global warming B.S.
First off, Washington state is home to the LAST TWO SITES OF WORLD RECORD SNOWFALL.
Second, Bellingham / Western WA in general has at least 1 week of 80~100F WEATHER EVERY YEAR! it's just that some times its earlier other times later in the summer, so this whole ABOVE NORMAL BS is all relative.
Third, we are having the EXACT SAME weather pattern that we did prior to the last world record so I'm not complaning......
C'mon does it really get much better than having the world's snowiest place an hour a way, and living in a climate that has moderate temps nearly all year long???? Just ask all the fucking hippies living on thestreat here, they will tell you that A, we got the best climate for living on the streets and the best drugs to go with it ;)
All afternoon I'll be loving it in my 35' long tin can driving up and down Northwest Ave. If it's over 90 outside it'll be over 100 inside the damn bus. And management :cussing: :fuckyou: says (from their air conditioned offices) that we don't need A/C in the new fleet of buses we're getting in a couple of years.
It should be slightly cooler close to the water but out in the county it will be blazing.
Time to find a snowbank to burrow into.
You know if you drive faster the bus will be cooler ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fiddler
Secretly hopes all busses on state street start dooing 55mph so that my speeding isnt so obvious :FIREdevil
Ohh... BTW I think that "Muzzy" has just been over indulging in the substances I referred to above when placing the bus order.
It will be a little cooler out on the islands, still warm, but at least most of the tourists have left.
And its a nice time to be sitting on Toad Lake having a cool-down beer. You guys out to come up here - its 5 or 6 degrees cooler, and the lake is a nice 66 right now.
I for one don't complain. After that long wet season I'm ready for a few days of blast furnace. Hopefully the winds will kick up and I can sail. Best thing about being sidelined for the season - I'm actually lazing this summer.
Meanwhile, in Argentina...Quote:
Originally Posted by minddoc
http://www.france24.com/france24Publ...sxdw6&cat=null
Gotta love the New England coast in July & August - while it pushed 100 in DC/PHI/NYC yesterday:
Portland, Maine:
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...pe=3&width=500
Hull, Massachusetts
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...pe=3&width=500
I Spent most of my summers in Maine to avoid the heat and humidity on Long Island, I hate hot humid weather,I Should just close the shop and go boating.
Whether you believe in global warming or not, the things that men like Al Gore are asking everyone to do are good things. Why not just do them? Recycling, energy effiecent homes, driving less, buying a hybrid car, etc.
Seriously, fuck any of you who chuck a soda can, or beer can, in the garbage. It's so fucking easy to recycle these days. Shit, in Oregon all you gotta do is set your cans on the curb or next to a wall. The bums will get them within an hour.
And if what you're saying is true, Gunder. I guess i'll be staying with you most of next winter.
Its the middle of July. It gets hot, even in the Northwest.
If you want cooler temperatures, drive to the coast!
.... where it's meant to only be 90 today.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenB
wow rideit youre getting really touchy over this! My point was 20 - 30 degrees above normal may very well be a "normal fluctuations". Are you telling me that over the past few hundred years temperates have not normally flucuated 20-30 degrees above average? Thats ludicrous.
Now if you can convince me that this ONE temperature spike in WA is a direct effect of global warming then ill shut up....Otherwise youre wrong, for the time being anyway. Im not saying i dont believe in the whole global warming thing but that is a totally normal temperature flucuations in one and area and is going to be damn near impossible to link bellinghams 90 degree temps this week to global warming. Good luck though oh and stop being so defensive, sorry if I hurt your feelings.