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Please everyone, be careful.
shitty news. Weird to think i was just up there.....
Significant wind loading today. We triggered some small slab-alanches today, looks to be increasing danger with more new falling.
Bummer to hear of the death.
I was hit by a waist deep slide inbounds at Baker today. Care must be taken.
Condolences to family and friends. Every loss is a toll too high.
I'm guessing it was in Kempers, back side top of six... Hate to say it but it was only a matter of time till it happened since the park stopped allowing Crystal Patrol to conduct Avalanche control of that path...
My condolences to the family and friends, I've got alot of friends up there hopefully its noone I know.
Fuck.
Please be careful everyone!
Damn....
That sucks, and my condolences go out to the friends and families, but it occurred in a permanently closed area on a day when the inbounds was going off. What were they thinking.
Ug...not good news. It's silly to drop rope lines, like altasnob was saying. But everyone drops into that area (and I have done it many times myself) because the turns are so good. But everyone also knows that it's a well established slide path and with conditions the way that they are...it's gonna rip.
Shitty shitty...
News said he was wearing a transceiver - implies they must have had some knowledge/awareness. Maybe unfamiliar with history of Kempers...sucks - back to reality for all.
Damn that sucks.
Near but not in Kempers... I'll have more info soon.
Of all the resorts I've skied, I have to say that the Crystal patrol seems to open sketchy avy prone terrain faster than just about anyone. Stated differently, while some will bitch about their local patrol being overly cautious, I think the opposite is true at Crystal. So if Southback is closed, there is a pretty good reason for it. I generally use Southback's open/closure status as a barometer to decide whether to venture out into the BC (the uncontrolled variety).
Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...Please let it not be a maggot...
Fuck, this is getting old.
Shit, I was gonna head up today but I was far too hungover...How could they miss all those signs warning about Kempers. They specifically say that it's closed and avi-prone.
Are we sure it was Kempers? I'll go on to what Altasnob's said - inbounds was plenty good, why go o/b esp. in a time of mass snowfall, high winds, and heavy windloading?
someone on Turns-all-year said while they were on 6 they saw 4 patrollers and a dog rush to the chair. When they got to the top then they ran and got the sled ready and went to the location of the slide, so it seems like it was somewhere at least in the kempers area (which was also said by Karma above)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumper Bones
Bummer.:frown: I just saw the news. Condolences to the family and friends.
bump for more info
Positive vibes go out to family and friends...any more news on this?
Seems King5 has more info buried in an Avi Control article:
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stor....10ec5640.html
There's a name in here:
From King 5 website:
But on Crystal Mountain a skier was killed when he was buried in an avalanche in an out-of-bounds area.
He was identified as Stanley Lowell Quande, 54, of Burien.
Ski area spokeswoman Tiana Enger said the avalanche occurred about 3 p.m., when Quande and a male companion were in an area that was roped off and marked as permanently closed to skiing. The area is on the back side of the resort and within the boundary of Mount Rainier National Park. The ski area is just east of the park.
"He was wearing an avalanche tranceiver which enabled us to zero in on his location pretty quickly but by the time we had dug him out he was unconscious and not breathing and pronounced dead," said Enger.
The second skier was not hurt.
More than 60 inches of snow has fallen on Crystal Mountain in the last six days.
Fuck. Long time Xtal family, not really a friend of mine but an acquaintance...sold him a pair of skis for his daughter a couple of years ago. She's in her teens and I think he may have other kids too. Feeling pretty bad for them right about now.
From the description I'd say it could have been Kempers or, given conditions, it may have been an attempted 410 run. In any case, he's a local and would likely have known both the history and the likely hazards.
Dude should have payed more attention.
Definitely shitty.
Be careful out there. According to NWAC website:
"High avalanche danger above 6000 feet and considerable
below Sunday with little change in the danger on
Sunday, with a slight decrease likely Sunday night."
Yet, people figure that if the patrol open lift accessed BC, then it must be safe. I rode Chair 2 at Alpental with some guy today, who told me about this Crystal death, yet was still headed out into the Alpental BC without a beacon, without avi knowledge, by himself!! :confused: :confused: F'ing crazy!
So sad......
......becareful out there.
Very sad. My condolences to the family.
But there is this question -- the second guy. The guy's partner - the guy who wasn't hurt. Did he have a transceiver? The body was recovered by the ski patrol over forty minutes after the burial. What did the partner do -- run to find the ski patrol?! If he had a transceiver and did not attempt to use it, isn't that negligent manslaughter?
rode w/ patrol on the lift today. said it was a huge slide and the guy was carried almost a mile through a lot of trees,etc. not sure if that kind of distance is possible but sounded pretty big, didn't sound like kind where survival probability was high. I'm pretty certain they both had transcievers.
The kempers slide path runs all the way to 410 and the bottom the the valley, thousands of feet below, so a huge slide is definenly possible.
Talked to the Patrol today up at High Campbell. It wasnt Kempers, it was about halfway along the backside of High Campbell Ridge on the HWY 410 side.
The slide was 3000ft long, and the slab measured over 3ft deep where the avalanche gave way at the high point.
They were in the National Park but NOT KEMPERS. It was NOT in a permanently closed area, out of bounds YES but closed NO.
Both solid skiers...Great guys...both were beeping.....bad luck.
The best to the family.....all long time Crystal Skiers.
Dont judge if you dont know.
If your really interested http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing...p?topic=6361.0 has the most accurate information I've seen at the bottom from skifish.
There is just way too much good skiing inbounds @ Crystal to get greedy and risk skiing a closed margiinal area. Too each his own. And now he will rest in peace on the slope above.
I've skiied at Crystal for 32 years. There are still some little nooks and crannies that I have yet to discover inboundds. Stay safe, stay inbounds, get the goods that are available without getting stupid.
And live for tommorrow. Because tommorrow will bring more snow and even better conditions.
Condolence to the wife and children.
Bad luck ? I'd say poor judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by silas
We don't judge, we give our honest opinions.
He made a poor choice and paid for it. Insensitive? No . It;s called reality. Wait until conditions settle, then hit the bc.
Closed or not, the guy is dead. Kempers or not. He's dead.
You can have all, the avy equipment known to man. But, when all hell breaks loose, mother nature rules .
Condolence to the wife and children.
Pretty much an unequivocal "no" to the manslaughter question, assuming that he got the 'trollers. It would be a judgment call in any event, due to factors ranging from how good/modern his transceiver was to how good his skills with it were. In this instance, particularly taking into account the distance the victim reportedly traveled, getting more rescuers there -- particularly skilled ones -- was at least defensible, and may well have been the better alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by BakerBunny
with conditions like we have all been having, new snow massive windloads, and chilly temps avys are bound to happen we all have to keep in mind that big turns are not worth our lives. thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.....
This is so sad. It has been a very bad couple of weeks. My condolences to his family and friends.
Just noticed NWAC accident report is already available.
Although trauma was cause of death it seems as if his partner was carrying victims spare beacon but no probe and shovel?
RIP
another article about the incident with some good information about the area this occured and the boundary issues there.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/advent...-5703492c.html
RIP Stan.
It can be very misleading to use South or North as an indicator, South is open on days where the avalanche danger is much higher than it was during this accident. A lot of it depends on having the avaiable manpower to shoot it. Talking with patrol about a/c results will also usually only give you indications about the last storm layer, and even then may be misleading because of the skier compaction on the weak layer that was formed on the surface.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob