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Hello!
I managed to leave my ski mountaineering skis in a black box all summer long, with skins on. Needless to say, a lot of the glue is now on the bases (and I may have to retouch the skins' glue, yikes).
I am thinking a good old hot scraping should work but don't want to end up with a glued iron either. What do people do? I'd like to avoid using solvents since they dry bases quite a lot.
drC - Fumbler
I use the orange clean degreaser to clean pine tar off of my bases, and as long as you're using the brand name stuff, it doesn't dry the bases very much. Try it out on a small section near the tails.
what he said - Citra-Solv won't damage the bases, but once you've gotten all the glue and degreaser off, you'll probably need to wax
I tried some of that citrus stuff and it didn't do shit.
Acetone, isopropanol or heat (iron with the paper bag deal), didn't work either.
Coleman white gas worked like a charm, though.
Bases needed waxing something fierce after that.
This was from glue peeling off BD/Ascension standard STS skins, though I'm pretty sure it was from one of the bad glue batches.
Related question: at the end of the season I dropped one of my skins into a pile of hay, sticky side down. Now there is all kinds of grass/hay/greenery stuck to the skins. And some scraps of plastic grocery bags.
All of these items tear very easily, making them near impossible to remove. Any ideas?
I did the same thing last summer.
I used a citrus solvent and two hot scrapes. They were fine.
Particle...........tweezers? hee hee
Brown paper grocery bag between iron and ski base. Get base hot with iron. Scrape with metal scraper. Same process for skins. Should do the trick.
listen to the man. he is wise beyond his years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kya
I'll try the paper bag. Thanks mangs. Particle, time to reglue?
Thirded on the brown paper bag. Newspaper works too.
Particle-you're going to be regluing your skins.
paper bag 4rth, or better yet- skiing about fifty feet on man-made or refrozen spring snow will do the trick too.
Citrus degreasers leave an oily film on the base, and any kind of harsh chemical is not good for you or your bases.
Maybe, maybe not. As I said above, the iron/paper bag trick was pretty much useless in my situation. I went through several bags and got some of the shit off, but plenty remained, YMMV. And I'd already skied through a shit-ton of refrozen the day before I removed the glue goobers from the bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by H-wood
I'm wondering how bad solvents actually are, whether they do permanent damage or just dry out the bases. Does anybody know for certain how the chemmistry works? I'm curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by H-wood
Tri-U, I can't give you the stochiometrically-correct answer that youQuote:
Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate
seek, but I can say that I've used nothing but Coleman fluid to clean
my bases (skin glue, wax, whatever) for years.
As far as the long term safety of doing so goes, I can't say. I'm a gear
whore, so it's rare for me to ski a pair of skis more that 3 or 4 years.
In those timeframes, I still haven't noticed any bad effects from using
it.
cheers,
john
Brown paper bag: it rocks! I had 5 minutes and did one ski and trust me there was a lot of glue there; it just got off so easily when warm. I'll come back to it and will finish with a couple hot scrapes. Sweet. Thanks for the advice.
For those who care, the glue is from BD Ascension Clipfix skins from 3 years ago. Other glues may give you different levels of trouble.
drC
Here's what works for lots of clumps of old skin glue from skins that were left on over the summer:
Use the brown paper and iron to get the major part of the glue off, and heat the ski base to facilitate the next step.
While still hot, wipe the remainder off the base with varsol and a shop towel. The still warm glue is now easily dissolved by the varsol.
Use the citrus cleaner to remove the varsol residue.
Use the new style glass cleaners like 'invisible glass' to remove the citrus cleaner residue.
Now you can reapply your base wax if that's what you normally do, or leave the base as-is.
This worked for me! Considering the skis with glue on them, have countless days and should be retired, I didn't think twice about doing harm to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate
Thanks all for the info
A heat gun with scraper but you will have to take off the glue and reapply. I do this with a heat gun and scraper. This is by far the easiest way to remove and reapply the glue. Once you heat up the glue with the heat gun it is really easy to take off or put on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
If you don't have a heat gun get you can get one online for $20 or less. They will cost you $50 at the hardware store.
MEK
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Peanut Butter works amazing for a relatively small amount of glue on your board/skis. Just wipe some over the sticky part for a few minutes and wipe off with paper towels, etc.
Found this thread today... Tried a number of the recommendations above that I had handy. First just friction, then heat gun plus paper towel, then rubbing alcohol, then some bottle of citrus cleaner, then iron over paper towel... All to no avail. The glue residue on my bases was really thin... but super sticky. Got to the post above recommending peanut butter which somehow led me to a jar of Mayo. That did the trick. used dish soap and water to get the greasy mayo residue off afterwards. Waxed up and they're ready to go.
I'll have to keep the condiments remedy in mind if this happens again to clean the residue. As far as the G3 skins went, I ended up doing what others said and just bought new skins rather than trying to reglue them myself. Maybe this summer I will try to reglue the old pair to have as a backup, I'll just use BD glue rather than the G3 sheets
You used the wrong citrus shit. Most citrus shit is indeed shit, low percentage citrus solvent, high percentage marketing. This stuff works great for removing wax, a favorite among XC ski racers to remove klister: https://img0.etsystatic.com/140/0/89...30158_f4xn.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate
I think this ^^ idea was perpetuated by people who did not properly setup to do the job cuz if you don't you will have glu and smoo everywhere, otherwise its not that hard to reglue skins,Quote:
Originally Posted by IndigoBC
Funny that came to this tread from a google search. Everything else was about putting new adhesive on skins. Tried the paper bag route and it worked for the worst. Then tried Goof Off pro strength and worked really well. Stinks so leave after using or open window.
red belt sander
You ever try newspaper ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
My ski bud was doing the brown paper thing which does work but when he ran out of brown paper bags he used newspaper which makes a fuck of a mess, when he had fragmnets of newspaper stuck hopelessly to his skins he called
so I head over with my iron, heat gun & putty knife, scrape off the old glue/newspaper smoo, heat in the new glue, the best part was that buddy was a doctor and so I was able to say " its good thing for you that some of us still do house calls "
in a seperate incident I put skins in a plastic grocery bag, the bag stuck to the glue on the edges of the skins, keep skins away from grocery bags