i tried to bump the original thread, but it's stuck in the archives.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...light=sopranos
anyone else stoked for the new season?
early predictions?
is tony s. going to the big house?
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i tried to bump the original thread, but it's stuck in the archives.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...light=sopranos
anyone else stoked for the new season?
early predictions?
is tony s. going to the big house?
Meadow gets busted boning in the pool and we get a full frontal.
pauly talksto the feds and getswacked.
AJ continues to be a whiny bitch.
I dunno but I cant wait.
I wish Enterauge was starting too.
Big Love afterwards looks like a new addiction. Great cast, cool subject.
That's the shocking hit in the first episode everyone's talking about? Jesus, don't kill off Pauly... get rid of Janice (oh yeah, she's a mother now).Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
This morning my wife IM's me:
So you want some Fucking Ziti for dinner tonight?
Damn near fell out of my chair..
Digital filmaking at it's best. Fucking Burrogh's poem to start.
"Florida is just one of those things you gotta let go."
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
that show rocks,
wowzers
biglovewasmeh except for the SLC flashbacks.
what a way to kick it off.
notice that they didn't have any previews for next week?
the suspense.....
I think Uncle Joon is faking it. Of course he wants Tony dead!
....lots of blood....good episode.
I cooked our biennial Sopranos premiere night dish:
http://origin.www.epicurious.com/rec...ws/views/13344
Tip: nuke the milk for a few minutes out of the fridge or the roux will take forever to thicken.
Uncle Joon faking it? I don't know ...
Are we going to have a season of Johnny running New York from jail and Tony running Jersey from a hospital bed?
Sure to be a season highlight: Vito at Meadow and Finn's wedding.
I might fire up the TiVo and watch it again tonight.
long day sunday and i knew i wouldn't make it through the episode, so watched family guy instead. the wifer then watched big love. she said it was ok.
watched sopranos last night on the rerun. the second it ended, she busts out with "big love sucked, THIS is what good shows look like".
great opener. i love that lou gherig joke.
dream sequence?
Christopher always gets the best lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffy109
"Chinks did this?"
"Is that a catheter?"
And my all time favorite from a few seasons back ...
"If I were a carpenter, and you were a douchebag!"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Honestly, this is in my head at least every other day. I love the writing they do for that character.
when was that?
I guess we are going to be seeing a lot of him, now that Tony has some medical problems. "aaayyyyyy.....wtf!"
How about " I'm never buyin' anything from this [pork] store anymore" as he worked a hacksaw.
A little real life, on trial right now in New york: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/16/nyregion/16cops.html
Tony was "MarvinGayed".
what a genius show. That was the best hour of TV I've watched in a long, long, time. Can't wait to see what becomes of AJ
The AJ stuff was great, but at this point in the series, did we really need another dream sequence show? :cussing:
My take on the dream sequence is that it is Tony's vision of Hell.
ya think? Stuck in Costa Mesa is certainly my idea of hell...Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiEvil
I think it is the last of Tonycentric world for awhile.
great plot device IMHO.
Gandolfini tneds to overwhelm everyone on the screen, appropriate as Tony does the same.
gonna be fun watching the drama play out with the captains, etc. with noone to direct it.
Did anybody else think that the surrealism was still moving along when they were in the hospital room and showed the open wound for the first time? I though I was in a Cronenberg scene at that point, probably becuse I watched Videodrome the other night.
Is it healthy to have an open wound like that with so many people in the room?
yep, that's what i'm waiting forQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
loved it when Vito -- busted in the parking lot by meadow's boyfriend last season -- started in with the gay jokes.
I think it's alternate world/bizarro world Tony -- say he stayed in school, rejected the family business, went into sales, lost the Jersey accent, and never had his behaviour and temper shaped by being the most powerful guy in the room all the time for years and years. That's some incredible acting by Gandolfini. He's Tony, but ... he's not Tony.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiEvil
Mrs. Slim and I were both commenting about how good the acting has been. Last nights episode was tops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
it was funny hearing Tony talk like James Gandolfini, and that answering machine message was awesome.
DON'T READ THIS UNTIL YOU SEE EPISODE TWO - David Chase insight into last night's (dream) episode:
Tony checks into the Hotel California
Monday, March 20, 2006
WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" episode. If you're waiting until later in the week to watch, read on at extreme peril.
IT'S NOT a dream. It's Purgatory.
When I had my annual summit with "Sopranos" creator David Chase a few weeks ago, I complimented him on having the onions to put a major dream sequence like this so early in the season, considering how many fans complain about the dreams.
"I, frankly, would not call those (episode two scenes) dreams," he said, which sent me scurrying back to watch my DVD over and over again, until (with some help from my wife) I got it.
Here Tony's stuck in Orange County, quite possibly the most personality-free corner of the world, with no way to leave (a k a Purgatory). On one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell). Over and over, he stops to assess the worth of his own life, asking, "Who am I? Where am I going?"
Then he steals the identity (sin) of Kevin Finnerty -- a heating salesman who lives in one of the hottest states of the union (Arizona) -- checks into another hotel, and falls down a red staircase, at which point he learns he has Alzheimer's (eternal damnation). And while Carmela's busy in the real world telling him he's not going to Hell, Tony's in Purgatory debating whether to tell his wife this is exactly the fate he has in store.
It may be hair-splitting to call this something other than a dream, but Tony's misadventures in Costa Mesa were much more linear and coherent than his regular dreams have ever been. There were important details scribbled in the margins (the bartender joking, "Around here, it's dead," or the "Are sin, disease and death real?" commercial on the TV), but there was an actual story here instead of Tony bouncing from one surreal tableau to another.
Still, Chase followed last week's watercooler cliffhanger with an 11-minute opening sequence set in a world that's not our own, with a Tony who wasn't quite right (it's startling to hear James Gandolfini's natural speaking voice), and only one split-second nod to the shooting (the brief flash of the doctor shining a light in Tony's eye mixed in with the chopper spotlight).
For years, most of "Sopranos" fandom has been divided into two intersecting sets: those who watch for the whacking and crude humor, and those who watch for the psychiatry and art-house storytelling. By putting the shooting right next to Tony's afterlife business trip, Chase is pushing his chips to the center of the table and telling the audience they had better go all in -- murder and therapy, flatulence jokes and metaphysics -- if they intend to stay at the table for this final season.
So will Tony ever get to check out of this hotel, and, if so, where will he end up? Again, I can't say, but if this season is going to be about a moral accounting for all of Tony's sins, then there's no better place to start.
Back in the physical world, give Edie Falco the Emmy right now. Just give it to her. Seriously. Do not pass Go, do not collect other nominations, just ship the statuette to her apartment today. There is no way any other actress on television is going to have two better scenes this year than Carmela's hallway breakdown and her monologue to Tony, scored perfectly to Tom Petty's "American Girl."
And is there an Emmy category for Best Silent Hug? Because Michael Imperioli was pretty great when he put his arm around Carmela in the hallway. I know scenes where characters sob or give long speeches are stock award-show bait, but these performances went so far past showing off that I actually had to look away a few times out of a feeling I was spying on a private moment between real people.
Some other random notes:
The song played at the end was Moby's "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die," with vocals by Mimi Goese.
The voice of Purgatory Tony's wife wasn't played by Annabella Sciorra, or any other actress who's been on the show before; she's just a generic non-Carmela female voice.
Boy, Janice's gift for making every moment of every day be all about her survives even her brother's shooting, huh? She shows up at the hospital, pretending she's there to help comfort Carmela, then immediately spazzes out so she's the center of attention. If I didn't know Janice so well from the last four seasons, I might have found her freak-out genuine, but this is Livia Soprano's daughter, people. And speaking of which...
Did you catch AJ throwing Livia's "Poor you!" at Meadow during their hybrid car argument? That's at least three other characters who've now used the old bat's pet insult (Tony and Gloria were the others), and it shows just how rotten and contagious the Soprano genes are.
Meanwhile, you have AJ trying to have his Michael Corleone moment with his plan to murder Junior, but the kid's still too dumb and weak to even pass for Fredo. Loved that he chose to waste all the good will from Carmela by telling her he flunked out of school. (If those other two scenes don't get Falco a drama actress Emmy, maybe she can win the comedy award for her delivery of "With your father in a coma!"
The overall mood was grim, but Vito had the line of the night, if not the season, when he speculated about Eugene's suicide, "Maybe he was a homo, felt there was no one he could talk to about it. That happens, too." Oh, Vito, project much?
In the days after the premiere, many people floated the theory that it was really the finale and the rest of the series would be flashbacks leading up to Tony's shooting. Obviously, that's not the way things are going, and it wouldn't have worked, since not enough of interest had happened to the characters since we saw them last. Yes, Janice and Bacala have spawned, and AJ's hair is longer, but it's not like we came back from hiatus with Silvio missing and Chris wearing an eyepatch. The premiere established that Tony's life had been profitable but uneventful since his jog through the woods.
Now, is Agent Harris really that in love with Satriale's veal parm, or he is baiting a hook to turn Christopher into a cooperator? Nothing on this show is a coincidence, and a few scenes after Harris mentioned Matush, the terrorist-supporting drug dealer, we saw a couple of Middle Eastern men chatting up Chrissie at the Bing. Hmm...
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I think there's something to be said about Tony loosing his identity.
I also hope this coma stuff doesn't go past the next episode, or this season is going to be weak.
a power vacum imploding a mob family in Jersey and New york and a real family itself weak?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy
you are a fucking moron,
The show has always revolved around Tony, I can't see that Chase would change that in the last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
And when I said weak, I was refering more to a whole season of dream-sequences being weak.
nextweeks preview didnt look like a dreamsequence nordid it appear like its gonna suck.
I havn't seen the preview for the next episode, what enlightenments does it provide?
somehting like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
are you really a cat?
Dont be cunty
http://cf.wftv.com/orlc/sh/videoplay...994&owner=orlc
;)
Do I sleep all day, puke on the carpet, and lick my own ass? No, although I did puke on the carpet last weekend..Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffy109
Van Helsing! ahahahahahaha
bye bye vito!
I think the "Uncle Junior is faking it" thing has some merit, but right after he shot Tony he went and hid in the closet with this terrified look on his face.