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http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html
great movie. time for them to grow up.
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html
great movie. time for them to grow up.
Well, at least it's meant record breaking business for the Broadway downtown where it is showing.
This is just another reason why people shouldn't bother visiting UT.
visiting is fine, but living with that shit...nope
Actually, its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Isn't it about time for you to move back to Boston.Quote:
Originally Posted by stump832
Like, right now?
Yes, right now.
(Think this movie is getting big play in the Deep South, most of Texas, the Bible belt states, etc....?) Probably pure economics’; Larry Miller knew it wouldn't do well and didn't show it. Good for him and good for the Broadway for making enough to keep their doors open by showing this movie. The best thing about controversial movies that they do show at Jordan Commons is that we can always get a good seat (At Sin City, there was maybe 50 people).
Now you're just trying to push my buttons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Altagirl
Whens our date-night for this flick, buddy?
whatever - thats the theater owners decision; maybe the movie makes him uncomfortable, why is it such a big deal that the theater wont show it.:rolleyes:
Not showing it is a statment to everyone in the area that something is not right with the movie. Kids are going to wonder why and the answer they'll get from their parents will probably be a negative lesson. What's your next rolleye question, dipshit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Godwin-Austin
Censorship Sucks (except for banning Xdog. Dude was a disgrace to dogs)
Larry Miller Sucks
People (religions) trying to impose their moralities on others Suck
The Snow And Conditions Today DID NOT SUCK
Damn. I am canceling my trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by stump832
No, you're allowed. And when are you coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by doofdoof
Confirmed as 8th - 17th Feb :biggrin:
I'll have about 8 Aussies in tow this time - should make for some fun in the GMD bar after skiing!
yeah its too bad its not running in UT, but its a business, do you really think a theater owner wants to run a movie no one is coming to see? I bet chuck and buck didnt do well there either.
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Originally Posted by mushmouth
doesnt matter - I dont want CNN telling me what movies I SHOULD be showing in my theater because they will teach people happy lessons about life. Thats PC BS - and not what this country is about....would I show the movie yeah, but thats irrelevant - Negative comments about controversial elements in the movie are one thing, choosing not to show the movie is another. Its called freedom of choice.
Could this have actually been a financial decision? Nationally at least, the movie is doing quite well on a revenue per theatre basis. See box office numbers here. Usually limited release plus media buzz equals full theatres for a little while at least. I would be more interested in knowing if this was a personal decision made by the owner or whether he was getting pressure from the morality poli... err... special interest groups.
As far as the movie goes, being a typical hetero male, I don't know if I could fully appreciate a romantic story between two men. However, it has been pointed out to me that the movie has a rather universal theme of the pain caused by not following your heart. Almost everyone has not done something because it wasn't what they were "supposed to do". All the people who love skiing but never move out west to be a "ski bum" comes to mind. Talk about pain and regret.
It's only not showing at one theater... there is more than one theater complex in Utah ya know. FudgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Evil E
As pointed out, this isn't a financial decision, the movie is doing well. And CNN is not telling you anything, their just reporting, i'm the one relaying happy messages:). And this isn't about PC, it's about one dudes narrow minded decision not to show a movie which will turn out to be classic because he's got issues. If this guy owned a library he'd have one shelf of dullness, if he was the leader of a European country he'd have a little mustache.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godwin-Austin
Give me a break. Financials obviously had some influence on this decision. The movie may be doing well but its because people are filling the theaters in NYC and SF not necessarily middle America, and you know what there is nothing wrong with that. Along the same lines I doubt TGR films, Warren Miller films etc get the kind of play in NYC and SF and Chicago etc as they would in Boulder, CO and other like minded mountain communities. And comparing this guy to Hitler is completly over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by mushmouth
Fox 13 said it was Larry Miller's last minute decision to pull it. No explanation. Seems like financial reasons would be the easiest excuse, but fat bald bigot hasn't said anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
The dude already owns half this town, I wouldn't have spent my money at his theater anyway, or any movie for thatm atter.
You can't argue the financials here. It's outperforming every other film on a per screen basis. It's a fact that this guy had an agreement with the film distributor to show it UP UNTIL A REPORTER TOLD HIM THE PLOT...THEN HE CHANGED THE SCHEDULE. You are missing the fact that he had initially agreed to show the fucking thing up until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
There's been great representation for TGR films in NYC every time I've been, don't you think? Have you been there?Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
Here you may be right, but then again I don't remember making any reference to Hitler...Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
http://www.historyplace.com/specials...pix/stalin.jpg
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/hi...rait/lenin.jpg
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CUBUCK and "New guy", it's fine to disagree with me, but it stinks of doing it "for the sake of". I'm as guilty of this as anyone and basically I'm too tired right now to defend any further, so why don't you guys just go "Brokeback" each other...We should at least agree that there is nothing wrong with that...
^^^ x2 - L.H. Miller pulled it just before the first showing, after he heard the plot, thats a fact. And in utah, he will likely see more people buy his cars, goto his jazz games and movies because of it - maybe an in directly financial descison, but I don't see him pulling movies with pot smoking, rape, murder, or torture. Maybe a pretty smart business move, but not would I would have done and I don't think it was for business, it was about the subject matter. I recall the radio interview with him, he said "I do not think it's my place to be the community sensor"....WTF?!?! I plan on going to the SLC FS show, just to spite.
On the flip side, it is sweet that the SLC film society ( a non-profit entity) is seeing huge crowds. I don't agree with L.H. Millers move, but atleast there is some outlet for the film in the area - and for a worthy cause IMHO. This hoopla is going to help increase ticket sales nationwide. "Awww shit, one theater in utah didn't show it, we got to go see it !"
The reason it is out performing on a per screen basis is because it is being played in major cities with higher gay populations rather than suburban thaters across middle america.Quote:
Originally Posted by mushmouth
TGR puts on one kick ass show in NYC a year. WM does a weeks worth of two or three shows a day in Boulder. There are just somethings that do you translate well between urban and outdoor cultures.
Yeah if it weren't for all those city queers, that movie would be bombing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
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pssstttt hey, dumbass: SLC has a pretty fucking big gay population with their own newspaper and shit.
compared to NYC, Miami, and SF?? Its obviously ain't big enough to convince this guy that its worth showing the film.Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
I'm not arguing against showing the film. Just pointing out that his motivations were very likely financially related.
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Originally Posted by CUBUCK
Just stop. You really think a guy as wealthy as Larry Miller is checking the financial performance of every movie that he's playing in his theatre chain? Larry Miller, a guy who owns 7 bazillion car dealerships, the Utah Jazz, and seemingly half of SLC, really gives a shit whether or not each screen is profitable? Just stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUBUCK
Larry Miller's got fuck-you money. That Brokeback got him good, dinnit?
Yes, Larry Miller has ridiculous amounts of money.
but at some level it's got to be (mostly) a financial thing.
he'd be at more financial risk if the majority of the SLC population chose to BOYCOTT his theater FOR showing it. which is a bigger problem than those attempting to boycott for not showing it.
I heard the Century Theatre in SLC @ 33S and the West Jordan theatres that are running the movie are about ready to shut down because of the intense boycott the public is running. And you don't even want to hear about what the film society is enduring due to its support of the flick. :rolleyes:
The truth is, its just another rich bigot trying to impose his morality on others. And thats fine - he owns the theatre and can do whatever he wants. But why even bother trying to defend it with financial reasons?
Many a bigot has thrown their beliefs out the window for money. Might have been a no-brainer for Miller - he conveniently gets to be a bigot and say it was simply a financial decision.
But what, for instance, should he have decided to show the film, if the church said it would tell all the bishops to tell their wards not to buy Larry Millers cars ever again? I think the scope of the financial impact would increase exponentially. It's not just a matter of boycotting his theaters, stump. When religion, politics, and money comingle like lonely cowboys, influence is created and some people either crumble or fight.
(but I heard the sheep were relieved when those guys in the movie fell for each other)
Since Larry Miller is a Mormon, where's the surprise that he refused to show Brokeback Mountain?
He based his decision, not on profit, but on the bigotry of his religion. The LDS are hardly welcoming to gays.
I'm amazed Miller let Rent slip by. Maybe, he didn't understand the plot.
A little more so than you may think. I believe the church's stand point on homosexuality is that its okay to be gay, just not sexually active gay. That said its not okay to be a sexually active heterosexual before marriage.Quote:
Originally Posted by cloudpeak
On the other hand the highly mormon community here was in an uproar when they where filming. A big push for businesses to refuse services to the film crew and boycott those that did serve them. Not much came of it though, calmer minds said "grow up and shut the fuck up".