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If you have recent lineage from Italy you can apply and receive citizenship. </p>
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Im starting the process and the attorney wants $10K plus all fees. It doesnt seem that complicated.</p>
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Has anyone done it or know someone that has? Am I mistaken on the ease?</p>
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Why? Retire in the Alps or Dolomites- </p>
Really close friends of ours literally just finished the process the last few months. Wasn’t super easy nor cheap…. His wife’s side of the family had Italian ancestors so she and their kids now are dual citizens with US and Italian passports. Bummer is that he was not eligible due to bloodline….
I've started the process with Greece, but it's a long shot. An EU passport would make our plans one thousand percent easier.
Wife applied for Ireland. Seemed like a reasonably straightforward application; she did it herself without a lawyer. It'll be another year or two before we find out if it goes through.
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No Italian in any portion of my family or my wife's family.
I’m a downstream product of a Viking who knocked up a Scottish lass in the 1100’s and settled down on an island in the Outer Hebrides. 500 years later (the 1600’s) one of his descendants is listed in church records as “Banished to The New World “. And I’m descended from that guy.
Pretty sure Scotland won’t take me back.
can one get in by taking lessons in talking with your hands ?
Only if you can do this while driving.Quote:
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Im waiting for a copy of my grandfathers birth certificate to come any day now to apply for Ireland. They say 9 months for the process once they have everything but then you gotta get the passport, so who knows how long it actually takes. My brother did it a few years ago and he didnt have any problems. It doesnt do my wife or kids any good but hey its been real.
That's funny. We have similar lineages and timelines.Quote:
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My great, great grandfather on the other side immigrated to Newfoundland from Ireland in the late 1800's. He then moved to Maine. Can I immigrate to Canada? Because that would be rad.
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My uncle got an Irish passport a few decades ago. Apparently easy to do for him being two generations removed. He had no intention of moving there but was slightly obsessed with lineage. From what he told us, this was more of a novelty thing that made the Irish government a few bucks, but didn't actually give any rights to emigrate.
Maybe he was too far removed or something. I'm second generation so I'll be an Irish citizen and can move there if I want. As far as I understand that makes me an EU citizen too.
Guys don’t jump ship, we need sane citizens more than ever.
Did he leave for Maine before 1949? If so, Newfie Land wasn’t a part of Canada then. Sorry ‘bout that.Quote:
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I’ve started the process on my end for Slovenian citizenship through my grandparents. Originally was to honor their legacy, but since then I’ve added a few more reasons to the pile.
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Wife (now US Citizen, but moved from Poland in mid-90's) got the kids Polish Passports a couple months ago....semi-hassle, but she is happy..... I guess had to be done, BEFORE they hit 18. Paid some guy/service couple hundred bucks to do the needful legwork....then we all took a trip to Polish Consulate in NYC.... 4 weeks later snazzy Polska Passport showed up. Not sure if that mean they have dual citizenship or not.....Had I wanted one (beaing an adult), I would have had to learn history, culture, take a test etc etc...similar to green card process here.</p>
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https://youtu.be/t30JzS0LHpk?si=q2aULudaxcG5iyuV
That's my understanding for my wife's process with Ireland as well.Quote:
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Which doesn't do me or the kids any good in terms of actual citizenship, but I believe it opens some doors for long term visas.
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Spain has “golden visas.” Invest 500k in real estate or other and you get permanent residency after 5 years and citizenship after 10. Extends to your whole family (I assume nuclear family?),
Isn't that what the Cheeto wants to do except for 5 million?Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Portugal has golden visas too, and there's a few other countries. Each has their own programs and requirements. Thailand is only like $20K. https://www.reuters.com/world/countr...ts-2025-02-26/
This is crazy, stupidly I didn't realize most countries do this. I'm finding out I could get my Canadian citizenship too. Its like collecting baseball cards.
dummier Q: why is my post full of <X> BS?
I've always been sad that my dad didn't do what it took to retain citizenship in Denmark (born to Danish parents in the US before they naturalized).
They have some sort of "use it or lose it" policy where you lose nationality after age 22 unless you've either lived in Denmark for a continuous 3 months or have visited enough times to spend "close to 1 year" there. And back in the 70s, my guess is that the standard of proof on that "close to 1 year" wasn't very high: who has records of their childhood visits to family.
I think my Aunt either retained it or made some effort to get it back. She studied abroad there for a semester so would have easily qualified if she filled out the paperwork...but that doesn't help me!
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I told my wife it has to be somewhere Spanish speaking as I'm pretty far down that rabbit hole and dont want to start over. Looks like Argentina has a decent path for residency too, requires a pension of at least $900 per month.</p>
It's not complicated at all, and definitely shouldn't cost $10k. Mostly it depends if you have the documentation for your Italian-born ancestor. If you have that (birth certificate, baptismal record), then it's just paperwork. Fill it out, file it with the proper authority, wait. Where using a service can be helpful is if you don't have the documents, and are essentially paying a detective/lawyer to go and find them for you. They will go to the town where your relative (father, grandfather) was born and go to the city hall or church where they were baptised. Although, this can easily be done yourself, as well, and could be quite fun!
a coworker and their family (parents and sibling) got their Italian citizenship several years ago. They didn’t have all the paperwork and had to be “adopted” by a village and live there for several weeks.
My personal story is that several great uncles/aunts (first gen American born) went to Italy and Sicily to find their extended families and could not find anybody that shared their name by spelling. I think this was in the 1980’s. They never figured out why their father changed the spelling and had cousins nearby (same name spelling- their fathers immigrated together) that had experienced the same problem. The oldest aunt’s birth certificate (born in Colorado) has a different spelling than their younger siblings. Their mother (my great grandmother) was a very young bride shipped off to the states, and they think it was just a mistake made at the hospital.
When my wife looked into the possibility of citizenship this summer, she found about $5k per person.
You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's.
Sadly my in-laws are one generation too far removed to get Irish citizenship. I could make aliyah to Israel, but somehow not that inclined to do so at the moment.
Lots of name changes on my mom's (greek) side, plus my grandfather being born in Asia Minor are making my case complicated, but after trumps display today, we got to get out of here before everyone locks the doors to Americans.
A friend has been looking closely at Spain (grandparents immigrated). He’s been told that it’s a [emoji637]-year process
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I have a friend who just got hers from Italy. Took about 4 years. I can put you in touch with her.
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A good friends spouse recently got Italian citizenship for him and their child through a law firm that specializes in this, and their process took about 2 years.</p>Quote:
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My maternal great grandparents were born in Italy and my brothers did a lot of digging for records to try and do this on their own. They found some, but not all of the necessary records, and also discovered a lot of inconsistencies, misspelled names, and a major surname change (eg, US officials changed my maternal great grandfathers 4-syllable Italian surname into an English-friendly 1 syllable Germanic name). It seems clerks recording all this info on certificates and forms back in the day were simply completing tasks, with little regard to accuracy.</p>
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My younger brother and I decided to hire the same law firm that my friends husband used, at the highest of their 3 levels of service because of all the issues with the records and documents, and the firm gathers all the documents with that level of service.</p>
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Our attorneys just recently acquired the last document they needed, so we are making progress.</p>
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Im happy to discuss details if you want to PM me.</p>
You know the rules of The Padded Room. Hot Italian Babe ? We need pics.Quote:
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New law in Spain, closes their Golden Visa program April 2025. For some strange reason I've been watching visa, immigration requirements very closely...
Dad was still a German citizen when I was born, middle sister too. She got her EU passport. Her daughter was born in Spain. Mom’s mom was born here but her parents were from Italy, not sure if that would apply for me. But having a Canuck passport with no ambitions to live to Europe, not sure if it matters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ms-2025-03-28/
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So if my mom could get Italian citizenship. Can I qualify to get citizenship after she gets hers?Quote:
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I could get my Iranian citizenship. Which is not so attractive (at least for now).
Sounds better if you call it Persia
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