RIP, Royal, you were one of my favorites.
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RIP, Royal, you were one of my favorites.
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Started with Popeye Doyle for me.
NY, Cocaine, shady cops...
Wife and Dog die with him sounds... ahh... hmm?
I always hoped I’d see him around town here but never did.
A consummate performer. RIP
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/o...smid=url-share
What an incredible actor, what an incredible career. RIP.
One of my favorites. So many good movies and roles. Foul play not suspected. Wonder if it is CO poisoning. Sucks either way. RIP
Guessing carbon monoxideQuote:
Gepeto: Wife and Dog die with him sounds... ahh... hmm?
I’ve heard CO reported. But I’m suspect about it not being intentional CO poisoning as he had mentioned being over being old
Such a great actor, RIP to both of them. I can't believe he was 95, wow.
more hmm[emoji780]?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Gene Hackman and Wife’s Deaths Ruled ‘Suspicious’ in Search Warrant: ‘No Obvious Signs of a Gas Leak’ and ‘Thorough Investigation’ Required https://flip.it/W-vuej from Flipboard.
He has been in a ton of stuff but a good one you may have never seen is "The Conversation"
Sad to read.
Check your monoxide detectors.
Really a strange one- found after someone requested a health check when they came to the home and found a door open. Both had been dead for some time from reports I've heard. Pills found out in the house (which at his age and these days could be nothing at all depending on what they were), and they were in 2 different rooms. One dog (out of 3) was also found dead....
Copied from the latest report in the Santa Fe paper.
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...1c4c042f4.html
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Report offers questions but few answers on Hackman's and wife's deaths at Santa Fe home By Nicholas Gilmore, Feb 27, 2025 Updated 10 mins ago
A search warrant affidavit submitted by Santa Fe County sheriff's deputies offers few answers in the deaths of acclaimed actor Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa, who were both found dead in their house just outside Santa Fe Wednesday afternoon.
The bodies of Hackman, 95, and Arakawa, 63, were each found lying on the floor in separate rooms of their Hyde Park-area home, the affidavit says, and one of their three dogs was found in a closet. The door to the home was ajar.
Investigators indicated both showed signs of having been dead for some time.
Sheriff's deputies wrote there were no signs of either carbon monoxide poisoning or a gas leak at the home after testing by both firefighters and gas utility staff Wednesday, although the affidavit also suggests the possibility either happened.
The lead investigator, Detective Roy Arndt, of the sheriff's office, noted "individuals exposed to gas leaks (or poisonous gas) can suffer immediate and unexpected death" and "might not show apparent injuries." Law enforcement officials talk outside the home of actor Gene Hackman on Thursday just outside Santa Fe. Hackman, his wife Betsy Arakawa and their dog were found dead in the home a day earlier.
Arakawa was found on the floor in the bathroom next to the countertop, investigators wrote, with a space heater on the floor next to her head. A deputy "suspected the heater could have fallen in the event the female abruptly fell to the ground," the affidavit says.
An orange pill bottle was opened on the countertop, with pills scattered on the counter, sheriff's deputies noted.
One of the couple's dogs — a German Shepherd — was found deceased in a bathroom closet 10 to 15 feet from Arakawa. The document does not specify whether the closet door was open or closed.
Hackman's body was found on the floor of a mud room near the kitchen in the home. Investigators wrote it appeared Hackman had "suddenly fallen," with sunglasses on the floor next to him. The detective wrote in the affidavit there were no signs of forced entry into the home, but the circumstances surrounding the deaths were "suspicious enough in nature to require a thorough search and investigation," noting the pill bottle, space heater and ajar front door.
One of their dogs was running loose on the property when deputies arrived, and the third dog was found — alive — next to Arakawa.
He was great in so many roles over the years. His filmography must span what? like sixty years? One role that really stands out to me is as the sheriff in Unforgiven. Just brilliant. He also made a really great under appreciated western in the 70s called Bite the Bullet. That was a really fun movie. Weird end but at least he had a long life.
any word on possible vegan sith transgender death cult involvement?
Alec Baldwin strikes again. That guy is ruthless.
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He was a nice guy, I used to work on his boat when he owned an island by Orcas (WA), he eventually gave the island away to a summer camp.
Popeye Doyle. And so much more. Damn, so long Gene.
Re-watched the French Connection. It was H, not coke. He carried the film, which has not survived the test of time - a period piece. Production value was poor.
Tidbit
A 2004 article in Vanity Fair described Hackman, Hoffman, and Robert Duvall as struggling California-born actors and close friends, sharing New York apartments in various two-person combinations in the 1960s
Would rather it be accidental than something nefarious. Toxicology report should provide some answers
Hoffman and Hackman were roommates in NYC
Crimson tide, the package, BAT 21, i think Bonnie and Clyde was his first movie.
He seemed a real modest guy later in life.
Rip
Opposite Clint Eastwood as the bad Sherrif was a great role model
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Jeez.
Wife died of hantavirus. A week later Gene dies of heart disease. Living with her dead body in the bathroom, maybe not realizing she was dead because of severe Alzheimer's.
https://apnews.com/article/gene-hack...a39a81b46dbdf9
And the dog that died was in a crate, I believe, which explains why the one dog died and not the other two
Gawd, that whole thing is so sad.
No shit. And how long it took for them to be discovered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
Is hantavirus that common in the area? To think of all the rodent infested shacks I’ve bunked in over the years in the BC wilderness ….
I could look it up, but I recall it being discovered in the Santa Fe area, (at least New Mexico).Quote:
Originally Posted by BCMtnHound
Wife was doing club stuff with a friend tonight when I came home from work, and friend was relating a story of being in Santa Fe 15+yrs ago and being warned of not buying the street vendor roasted pine nuts due to rodent infestations in the warehouse and the roasting not killing the bacteria. Had no idea it was such an issue there.
I think I preferred her stories of bedbugs and cockroaches in NY hostels.
Also hearing some stories same friend and wife about local folk that were in similar circumstance where the partner care provider passed and the senile partner was in the house for days before someone arrived to check. You’d think our ‘modern’ civilization would have addressed this situation in a better way.
From the NYT piece
“Hantavirus is contracted through exposure to excrement from rodents — in New Mexico, primarily one species of mouse — and it can cause flu-like symptoms before progressing to shortness of breath, as well as cardiac and lung failure.
The infections are rare. Erin Phipps, a state veterinarian, said that over the past five years, between one and seven infections have been confirmed in New Mexico annually. But they are often fatal, killing more than 40 percent of people who have contracted the disease in New Mexico over the past 50 years.
Health department officials found that the couple’s home had “low risk” of exposure to hantavirus, but that there were signs of rodents in other structures on the property, which is in a secluded neighborhood to the east of Santa Fe.”
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Hantavirus isn’t really common, but it’s nowhere near unknown in New Mexico. There are usually stories of an infection or maybe two every year in the state. Poor family - all of them including the dog.
What a terrible way to die for both of them--suffocating, or being so demented you don't realize your wife is dead. Death is rarely kind. Also depressing, the comments in the WAPO article about it. All the nut jobs who insist the cops made up the story and are covering up the murders.
Sad story. But having cared for an elderly parent, I can easily see how this happened.
Funny how the human mind works. I thought for sure that some sort of poison gas was involved. But Occum’s Razor says the true story here was always the most logical explanation.
Really feel bad for that dog.
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Yep, happened almost to same affect with my dad’s best buddy and his wife. They didn’t die, but it was super close. It was pretty wild how quickly things went sideways in the household. They went to a care home after that and didn’t last much longer. Doesn’t take much for things to go bad. It Def sounds like the dog got the worst of it. Sad all around
We are living in a time where many not only don’t understand the general validity of Occam’s razor, they actively cling to bullshit that is the very opposite.
Within my generation (gen X) the turning point I observed was that stupid fucking X Files show everyone seemed to be watching in the 90s. There’s always been books etc out there that satisfy the fringe tendency toward seeing patterns and conspiracies in everything, but that show seemed to mainstream it somehow which then morphed quickly into the internet conspiracy bullshit.
I’m not seriously proposing some grand theory here. Just saying there was a time when it seemed 99% of people I knew or worked with did not jump to conspiracy theories if a celebrity died in the home.
It’s kinda wild to think most of us know someone (relative, coworker whatever) that believes in Qanon.
RIP Gene. I watched Get Shorty last night.
The USA was settled by uniquely gullible people who have always been especially susceptible to bullshit:Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
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Yeah I know, which is why I put in the disclaimer. It was more of personal observation regarding people in my immediate circle.
There’s no way to nail this stuff down, it’s more like a topic to kick around over beers.
We need skrdshtls to remind us never to read the comments. I read them, and it really does remind me of ol’ George Carlin’s line that went something like “Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember that half the people are dumber than that!”Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Interesting point by frorider about X Files. I never watched that show.
Reading some of those goofy comments in the WaPo about “how could they not be found?” one point I wanted to make, but didn’t, is that Hackman’s house is on the far edge of a gated community with huge lots on the far edge of town. Privacy is a strong value to the folks that live there.
When you drive to Ski Santa Fe, you pass that community as the very last homes as you move into the National Forest.
I’m generation X and the nineties was a media vacuum for me. All kinds of music, TV and movies that I never heard of or just vaguely remember. I don’t recall conspiracy theories becoming mainstream until the advent of widespread internet access and especially smartphones social media. Any kook can post online content and a lot of people will believe it because it’s published,right?