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Been a rough 6 weeks for air travel
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JFC what the hell is going on? Is this normal and we’re just seeing more of it because of the media attention, or is something really concerning going on with flying?
I don't think wind has been proven to be a factor (we're like a mere 10 hours after the event) yet but can confirm yes it was windy today and we've had a back to back to back snow cycle that has given us a months snow over a few days.
Alright, now it is getting interesting. We do have a wind expert on the board!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
But squirrels could have played a role. Something like squirrels on a plane. Mix rabies in the plot! Here you go!
I think one of the chemtrail tanks froze - threw off the balance on approach.
Could a pilot chime in and tell me how you fly a plane into a hard landing like that in decent viz?
I'm not a pilot but perhaps dropping a baggie of coke on the instrument panel can be distracting? Hoping for a no casualty landing with all said and done. I hate flying but it is always so exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
Server fan still broken I see.
Fair point - bet they used pirated chemtrail liquid from china.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
Definitly not an expert, just local.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
I am going to wait for Ted the resident Xspurt
I drove up the ski hill yesturday and I am much safer in an airplane than in that new Tundra
Paging puregravity to the curtesy phoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
Would the plane have flipped had been on a treadmill?
Yes, it would have flipped. Instead it did a barrel roll
Took it switch to the runway.
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Obviously the fault of some DEI hire.
It was windy AF out here (I'm 20 minutes from the airport). Definitely not out of the realm of possibility that wind was the major factor. I believe the wind direction and runway in use would've put it at a 45 degree angle. Lots of blowing snow yesterday (and today).
This was most likely pilot error.
I don't have any inside information on the specifics of this accident, but I did fly that airplane for years, and it can be a handful. Add that westbound approaches at YYZ can get bumpy as shit.
So watching the cell phone video, it's obvious they didn't really flare. So I'm guessing that whoever was driving didn't see the runway and thought they were higher than they really were.
Would a larger plane handle wind shear better than that CRJ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
From comments on a FB friend's post of the same video (always a reliable source): As a former professional pilot who still holds a commercial certificate, I’ll say that the investigation will determine what caused the accident. As a knowledgeable observer and Monday morning quarterback, it looks like heavy low-level wind shear caused a loss of airspeed just as they were beginning the flare, the right wing stalled, and a hard, side-loaded touchdown caused the right main gear to collapse. It will be interesting to see at exactly what altitude they lost airspeed and if they even had time to hit the TOGA.
What is a TOGA in this context? Edit, searched it out: Definition. Take-off/Go Around (TO/GA) is an autopilot/autothrottle setting activating take-off or go-around thrust. Depending upon aircraft type, it may be activated by depressing a switch or by manually moving the thrust levers to the appropriate position.
RE: windshear CRJ vs other jets
No, the RJ (7 and 9) has tons of power, and the engines spool up fairly quickly. But I haven't heard or read anything to indicate this was actually windshear. It was just a normal windy turbulent day.
RE: TOGA
The CRJ doesn't have auto-throttles and can't go around using the autopilot. It must be hand flown.
So pushing the toga button only puts guidance on your screen for executing a go around. It's up to you to push the power up and actually fly it.
It also doesn't have any kind of auto-land.
The lowest they could've used the autopilot without breaking a limitation of the airplane is 200 feet above ground. But when it's really turbulent, it's easier to hand fly an approach in that airplane than let the autopilot fight it.
To me looks like pilot error and possibly a combo of wind-shear as Multiglisse said above. Problem is landing at what looks like most likely 700 feet per minute with all the weight taken on that right mount. I bet if they were able to land in on both main mounts it would have been able to absorb that. You've probably been in a plane landing in a x-wind at the pilot plants it pretty hard on the runway vice a long flare. If you do a long flare the x-wind will push you sideways, hence more of planting it on the runway.
pilot was probably a snowboarder
:FM
Who in their right mind would let Pio land a plane?
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^^^ BOOM!
Destroys the right wing and leaves the vehicle upside down. Is the Craigslist ad up yet?
if you have seen it yet there is a vid of the crash landing on CBC news