My question is: how different is the performance? Are the Adrenalins tons stiffer, or just a bit? I ski on stiffer consumer alpine boots, so I'm not used to plug boots or anything.
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My question is: how different is the performance? Are the Adrenalins tons stiffer, or just a bit? I ski on stiffer consumer alpine boots, so I'm not used to plug boots or anything.
What up, dont trust me? Substantially stiffer (laterally and aft). The ONLY reason to go Mega Ride is for Dynafit compatibility. If no Dynafit then think G-Ride VS Adrenaline and even then the lateral stifness is no comparison, forward flex however is similar.
I've been thinking Adrenalines lately after going from a race boot to a soft alpine boot. I miss that tight lateral support sometimes.
How are Adrenalines for high foot volume?
You said they were stiffer, but you didn't say by how much. Is a good deal a reason to go MegaRide, or pay more for the Adrenalin? Are you going to me some on form?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Darkside
I just got the megarides, because of the dynafit, and tested the adrenalins and G-rides at the same time.
The adrenalins are the stiffes of lot, but not by enormous amount.I could not personally tell a lot of difference between mega´s and Grides. There should be some, but..
All those boots were quite buckets compared to my xxx´s but on the other hand,they were about twice as light...
I have a project to stiffen them up, im gonna put some old flexon comp tongues on them,and maybe put a extra booster strap too. Lets see what kind of Frankenboot comes out. :)
i´ll post some pics with couple of weeks.
If you are considering the adrenalines, you could try out the scarpa tornados.
I tried them quickly and they felt way stiffer and supportive than the adrenalinse. But they are heavier, and the stride with the boots is more clunky.
But if i had to choose a stiff boot for hiking and shorter skinnign trips, i would go for tornadoes.
I have G-ride (same as Mega Ride) and have shop flexed Adrenalines.
Adrenalines are much stiffer but still nothing like a reasonably stiff alpine boot.
Think entry level recreational flexing boot.
IMHO, Adrenaline is significantly stiffer than G-Ride, enough so that I wish I could swap them. Maybe someday, I'll find a Flexon tongue and do the modifications.
But, I must confess that you can still ski pretty frickin hard on G-rides. You just ski totally centered and balanced and you can do anything.
Where they suck is 1) if you get off balance, 2) if skiing variable crud the tip lifts up to much on a crud pile cuz the boot is too soft to resist, and 3) it is hard to get tip pressure if the ski tip vibrates at higher speeds.
flyk, what'd i do wrong?
these are a pair of modified GSM's. PJ at Race Stock Sports http://www.racestocksports.com/
did the work to increase lateral stiffness. He only charged $30 bones so if you can get a good deal on Mega's do it. Also, Core Shots assessment of being center on the ski is dead on for skiing any AT boot.
I also added the tongue, booster strap, and glued some foam into the inside of the liner for greater shin contact.
No idea how it compares to an Adrenalin, but they are good enough to ski anywhere for me, and i am plus 200+ lbs.
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Wanna trade?
You forgot the / from the rear img tag. Like this : [/img]
Now, you tell me, how people shrink their font sizes, or make them colourfull?
stanley,
Is the blue piece the only part added?
I also have some frankenstein Megarides that I could eventually post picts of. A Nordica (I think) shim in the front and flexon tongues. NEver got to try them after all the mods, but they do feel considerably stiffer.
i dunno Meat, im a jong.
Comish, the blue piece was the only plastic added for lateral stiffness.
I also added as much heel lift under the liner as i could.
Size can de modified by [SIZE=?] and [/SIZE] tags, like this JONG and if I'm not terribly wrong, color by [color=?] tags, like this.Quote:
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Any word on how stiff the tonques on those Raichle snowboards-hardboots are (you're Bebe at Relaa, right?)?
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I wish i could go with the Scarpas, especially since they'd be easier for me to get a deal on, but I don't think the last will fit my foot (D-E width, no arch) well at all.
Looks like the Adrenalin will be my best bet.
How did you manage to test AT boots?
I'd try them all on, then make a decision. Why do you think that Scarpas won't fit you? They're rather high-volume, and wide. I know for sure that the Denali has a almost flat ramp, ie no built in arch (I own the XTs).
Within the Garmont line, the Adrenalin is an anomaly. Their other boots all share the same design, the G-lite is a Mega-Ride with half the cuff lopped off and one buckle removed. But the Adrenalin is not a scaled-up G-ride, it's a completely different design. Different liner, too.
I know a lot of people who rip on G-rides, and that includes inbounds skiing. A stiffer tongue might be a good idea, the stock tongues are very soft.
And for true backcountry, don't fear the Dynafit. Amazing little binding.
Hmm, i would defiently try out scarpa,especially tornado then..Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside
I mean, the pair i tried was wide in the middle of the foot,especially in the arch.
It was so wide that i would personally have to use a extra arch support.
(i have quite normal feet...)
To test at boots, it helps if you travel and try out everything anywhere... :)
And our local shop has relatively good choice.
Pss,hemas,you sherlock holmes,dont blow my cover.. :).
I was under the impression that Garmonts are wider and Scarpas are narrower. Is this not true? Do the different models vary in fit? I need to go try some on.
I am a true D width and have a medium to narrow heel. The Garmont Adrenaline worked fine for me, but I had to downsize slightly from alpine. Its best to try these on and try to get a tight fit.
This changes depending on which blow-hard you're talking to on the board and which shop you walk into. I've heard so many variations on which foot fits which brand that I've given up trying.Quote:
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Stanley, I want to do that to my boots - where did you get the Flexon tongue? (I get the sense from this board it is not such an easy task to find one)...Also, are the tongues on the old Raichle rando boots the same as the Flexons or are they not as stiff? Does anyone know?
I got lucky and found an old pair at browse & buy the first time i looked. I have no clue about Rando boots, heck i dont even know if the tongues i used are the stiffest out there. I gotta go run an errand next to the browser, ill take a quick look for you.
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that would be much appreciated...
I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a low-volume AT boot, sadly :( I had to sell my Adrenalin's last year. They were the same weight as my Flexons, and less comfortable. Aside from gaining a rockered sole, there was no point. Gonna try the Denali TT this year (overlapping tongue is more comfy), get new footbeds, and hope for the best. Stupid wide AT lasts... :cussing:
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I'm not sure you would want a low volume boot for AT. The boot needs to be comfortable while touring and hiking. A friend of mine tried to tour in his low volume technicas and he could hardly walk after a three mile down hill hike. Our friend ran ahead to the car and brought back his sneakers so he could make it down the last mile.
Nada. sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by yesIsaidyes
The problem with high volume AT boots is the amount of heel lift you get. If i wouldnt of added lots of shims then my feet would still look like crab meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurch
The benefit to the high volume is that i got to add the shims to add the ramp angle that the Freerides dont give you. A boots gotta be snug otherwise the skinning and hiking will kill. Your buddies problem probably stems from the lack of vibram, rocker, and rigidness in the uppercuff more so than the low volume.
thanks for checking - any advice on adding shims under the heel? I am a total novice at this stuff but inspired to stiffen up my boots (I have the same model garmonts you do)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
Larry in Boulder added some foam to the liner's tongue on my Denali TTs and it elimated the heel lift. No need to shim or make any changes to the foot bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
just ask your skishop for some heel lifters, remove the liner and duck tape em in there. Do it in the shop in case you want a differnt thickness. Also, my shop had some foot shaped cutouts that i put in over the heel lift. These evenly took up volume across the length of the boot. At a minimum until you find some tongues i would get a booster strap and use it in addition to the stock strap. Run the stock strap around the liner and the booster around the tongue. If you have gfit liners you will probably still have a gap between your shin and the liner, if so find some foam (preferably with adhesive on one side) and shape it to fit. oh yeah bring beer for the techs.
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perfect, thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
Self adhesive vinyl floor tile cut into heel shaped pieces, layer to taste, stick together and then stick them into shell under liner.Quote:
Originally Posted by yesIsaidyes
Works a treat and helps add ramp angle as well as taking up volume. Try it before you do any work stiffening up boots it makes an incredible difference.