Holy shit! You can see vehicles on the bridge as it collapses into the Patapsco River :eek:
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Holy shit! You can see vehicles on the bridge as it collapses into the Patapsco River :eek:
My Lord.
That was disturbing.
Getting daylight in a while.
That’s a question I have. I assume there was a pilot on board in those waters. In Portland, Maine we had a tanker, the Julie N, hit a bridge because the pilot said turn to starboard when he intended port. The helmsman followed the directions as he should and the tanker hit the bridge resulting in a large oil spill.
Terrible tragedy unfolding. Likely reached the total number of survivors at this point.
Sonar shows vehicles on the river bottom :(
2 survivors rescued so far.
45° water, there likely won't be more.
That went down so fast…
https://x.com/doyle0213/status/1772550665526517790?s=20
Where's that confounded bridge?
Just heard something about the ship losing power
Yeah, if you look at the videos, the ship lost electrical power at least twice prior to hitting the bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
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Video and more pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4-i7Sor...JkeTVpbnk1bw==
I can’t speak to civilian ships, but the Navy destroyer I served on would have had sailors manning “after steering”, where they were standing by the ships rudder ready to manually steer the ship, using chains and come-alongs, in case the ship lost power.
No idea if civilian ships do this.
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I believe at that point there had to be a pilot (they were into the harbor and obviously going under the bridge), and while I'm sure there are lots of possibilities the obvious issue would be some kind of fuck up on the pilot's part (like in ME--of course in that one I'd like to know if the margins in that harbor are so slim that there was no time to correct the starboard/port thing when the ship first started turning the wrong way). While these things are very rare it's still a little hard to believe they can happen at all (counterpoint: Exxon Valdez).Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
edit: hadn't followed this since last night, didn't know about the possible electrical issue. Was going to say other obvious thing would be mechanical failure. Wonder if the boat really was losing power like that.
How many years have you been sitting on that LZ reference? Nicely done. (Musician dork brother and his bandmates always used to laugh about that line when they'd play that song.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
I’d be ridiculously surprised if a Singapore-flagged ship had those kind of protocols in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry
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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
The Portland bridge has since been replaced and the new draw bridge was made much wider to avoid the issues.
To Harry’s point I have not been on a ship of that size, but I very much doubt they have the manpower to devote to manual steerage. Likely not enough room to drop an anchor either.
Lost power, then it looks like when it came back they may have tried reversing the prop which caused the bow to change direction. I wonder if they just coasted thru at the original heading if they would have made it?
Someone said they tried but on a moving boat it's tough to get a hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
Ah, so I guess it probably was pretty tight and one mistaken command could have done it, without time to belay. One question for the Admiral (Harry)...what's a 'come-along?'Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
Have to imagine it would depend on how much time they would have been coasting, rudder angle, currents...Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Lots of current through there. Probably depends on if the tide was going in or out. Looks like it is going in right now based on the slick emanating from the collapsed main span.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Older video of the piling that got hit taken by a local kayak fisherman
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4-ml...40bGU3enVjbnBn
6 minutes isn't a lot of time to make adjustments with a boat that size...
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Same ship hit a bridge in Antwerp in ‘16
All that exhaust starts billowing just before impact. Almost looks like they got the main engines started or throttled up but too late.
Holy shit insanely sad. [emoji22]
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This unfortunate accident is a reminder that America is a maritime country. The Port of Baltimore is one of the busiest in the country handling nearly 12 million tons of cargo annually. The largest ships moving through the port weigh close to 170K tons. It's going to be a real test of various agencies to complete the rescue & recovery of victims, conduct the investigation, return the port to operation, and rebuild the bridge.
Holy shit that is terrifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by From_the_NEK
When I'm in Charleston one of my favorite things to do is grab a drink by the Cooper River and watch the massive car carriers and container ships come and go out of the freight terminal. It's mind blowing how big these ships are fully loaded; I can't imagine the force of the impact this ship in Baltimore had. Like a skyscraper being plowed into something. Ufda.
Are you from VT and was your brother's nickname Chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
yeah, here’s an AIS recreation, not much change to the courseQuote:
Originally Posted by From_the_NEK
https://www.vesselfinder.com/news/27...idge-Baltimore
10,000 20’ shipping containers is a lot of stuff
Would've been nice if the tugs stayed with it until it passed the bridge but I'm sure that was standard procedure.. The Eric McAllister tries to get back to it before the impact but doesn't get close.
Haha, I love that question, but sadly no, not from VT and brother's name is not Chip. Am guessing we weren't the only music dweebs who were amused at Robert Plant not finding the bridge in that song.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
Latest news I heard was they were able to close the bridge at the last minute so zero casualties. Hope that’s correct.
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As of a few minutes ago they were still searching for six people, so I'm not sure that's true. Unless somehow it's six people from the boat or something.
^^seems that is confirmed. Quick work by whoever's in charge of that. Six construction workers missing though. The two people rescued from the water were both construction workers apparently.
Must have been the Ukrainians.
Oh wow, that sucks. Hope they find the other 4 ok. Damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
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Am I remembering right from a documentary that the Ravenel bridge’s pilings are heavily armored to deflect large blows from cargo ships specifically? Like a large underwater pyramid shape or mass of rock to armor the structure? Would that have been feasible here?Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Watching the video of the bridge leading up to collapse, you don't see any traffic on the bridge other than the construction vehicles for the last minute or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY