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Anyone have experience with Ski Trab TR1? I looked around here and elsewhere and haven’t seen much real world info.
The marketing clip…
Seems like an interesting candidate for a travel ski now that the funky heel requirement of the original TR2 has been eliminated. I’m cross shopping with the usual suspects Shift/Tecton/Duke PT/Kingpin.
Will be going on a VWerks Katana for a travel ski.
I mean, the Duke PT I have for sale will probably be your best bet....Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
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Of course it would!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by naedward81
I already bought a new VW Katana (on sale at Corbett’s) after you scared me that it’s likely getting dropped soon.
Following. Deciding on mounting or selling my vwerks. Too many skis, not enough ski days.
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I recall the TR2 had the most consistent tech binding release per skimo.co testing. And the Trab Gara/Vario toes are sick.
I’m really excited for these now that they fixed the boot compatibility issue.
What the compatability issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
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The previous TR2 required a metal horseshoe-like addition routed and screwed into the heel of most boots. Kinda like a Dynafit Beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by japanada
TR2 boot heel horseshoe…
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Reading reviews on their site makes it sound like it's still an issue? Not wanting to make a ton of mods with my hawx xtdsQuote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
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I haven’t read of any boot-compatibility issues with the TR1. Just reread the skimo.co reviews and couldn’t find anything there either.
The boots in the vid clip don't have that heel mod
Correct. My understanding is that TR1 requires no boot heel modification. That is why I’m now interested in the TR1.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuco
Travel ski, as in flying? Duke's toe comes off, theoretically heel pieces can come off to pack away.
I know you like to use demo binders for that reason.
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I bought a pair from skimo
Haven’t done anything with them yet…
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Me thinks singlecross is looking for the ideal ski for Eurobbi 2025
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You, sir, are correct.
Can you measure the actual brake width for me? I’m wondering if the widths are generous and if 102mm brakes will fit a 112mm ski. If not, do they look easy to bend?Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarhey
I bought the 120 mm brake version and was going to put them On a C132 ski…
I think they will work out to being fairly close to making it
I Asked the same question on skimo’s sight and it’s there…didn’t get much information as an answer
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Rough measurement on my 120’s are 127 mm
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Thanks for the info… I might take a chance on some 102mm brake TR1’s from Oliunid… $420 + 25 shipping right now.
Dumb thought but would a demo Griffon heel fit the Duke PT track? Would be so nice to remove for travel without messing w toolsQuote:
Originally Posted by naedward81
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Might get better answer hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Duffman
New Marker Tech touring binding 20/21?
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=328737
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I ordered and got my set of TR1’s from Oliunid. 102 brakes will just fit 112mm skis.
No mounting template is included and Instructions are lacking especially for setting forward pressure, so I quickly mounted on a 2x4 to fiddle around with them on my bench.
Interesting heel clamping mechanism. No real flat touring setting… risers at 6* and 12*. Side toe wings open to release the boot laterally.
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Looks like it uses Dynafit style crampons
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Curious what the toes weigh?
270 grams
Edit to add : 266 g without tag
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I'm looking for a binding sturdier than the Vario2 to use on my BMT109. They will be used for a lot of bootpacking, couloir skiing, and fast winter travel. I'm a bit clumsy and fumble during transitions, so I prefer a simple binding. I love the Vario2, but the heels aren't up to the level I need. I've had a good overall experience with the Vipec over the years, especially the first-gen Vipec. I'm not a fan of Kingpins or Shift-type bindings. So, how do these TR1s compare to fast and light bindings when it comes to their use and fiddle factor? Are they worth the extra 100g over the Vipecs?
I think the mtn is the best binding for what you're looking for.
Certainly the safest, because the super strong toe springs prevent pre releases.
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I wish that I could tell you… I’ve only mounted mine and bench fiddled with them. I’ve got high hopes, but haven’t skied them.
Sturdy was the wrong word to use. The vario 2 are plenty sturdy and have good retention. The problem is more with their lack of elasticity. But that's thing across all bindings in that class.
So how do they fiddle?Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
Im curious if you could mount the TR1 s and then BF insert heels for an ATK heel and the TR1 heel. Light for real up days, full heel for when needed.
Lateral release in heel and toe? Besides being quite a franken combo it might be a bit too floatey. I think it more reasonable to go to the ATK toe too when switching. Most time taken when switching bindings is spent adjusting the forward pressure.
@singlecross or any other adopter - any updates ?
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Originally Posted by Cocximus
I'm kind of shocked that the vario.2 isn't elastic enough. I'm assuming you mean lateral elasticity? Or what direction is it not elastic enough for you? And what makes you think you need more elasticity specifically?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocximus
I have had very good luck with the speed superlight 2.0 heel and Trab Vario toe combo, skiing fast and dropping cliffs. I was going to suggest that combo, but I doubt it's more elastic than the vario.2 heel.
I could be wrong, but if I had to guess, I'd guess it's actual a matter of *damping* the vibrations, not elasticity per say. In which case, a heavier binding might provide more of that naturally.
No updates as of yet… I have them mounted on VWerks Katanas and live on the East coast. You see the problem there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleT
They will be my travel ski and I’ll be skiing them for a month in Europe come March. I will report back.
You are right. I want my BMT with varios to ski like my katanas with shifts ski. I guess there are limits with lightweight gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
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Wife is looking for a binding and I think the tr1 would suit her needs. Unfortunately she is a din 5 with lots of knee issues. TR1 min DIN is 6. Does anyone know if there is a lower din spring?
Initial impressions of my TR-1 is that they ski really well but are somewhat fiddly to get in and out of and transition in. I skied them a couple of afternoons on East Coast groomers on good firm, but not icy, conditions.
They skied very solidly and had no real problems getting my 112mm underfoot skis up on edge to carve and they don’t feel rattly or inelastic.The rear heel shelf that captures the boot seems much more robust than pins. I am excited by their ski performance and think it will only feel better in softer ungroomed snow.I pretty much forgot about them once skiing.
They are a bit fiddly to get in and out of and to operate the locking brake mechanism for touring. Having to depress the toe lever to get into the toes takes some attention and balance. Once in at the toe, stepping into the heel is no problem. To get out, depressing the heel is fiddly to keep the heel piece cocked in alpine mode to step into again. It wants to default to touring mode dropping the rear boot “shelf” down to tour unless you hold your boot there to engage the mechanism to keep the heel shelf up in alpine mode. And then you need to depress the toe lever to get your toes out. This process also requires good attention and balance. I did not skin on them but only got in/out on firm groomed snow. I imagine that deeper, soft snow would increase these challenges. Also, reaching under your boot heel with your pole tip to depress and lock the brake up for touring is a bit of a thing because your pole basket can get in the way of getting under you boot. Flipping your pole around to use the grip is better but the grip can slip on the brake platform that you are trying to press down on.Transitions will require some practice and getting used to.
Did I mention that once on, they ski really well?
Thats it for now. I’ll report back after some time touring in soft snow.
That’s enough fiddle factor that I don’t see any advantage over Tectons.
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Thx for the review. Tectons are on my 107 waist Blizzards that live in a tiny storage locker in Yurp and have worked surprisingly well. But I’m been considering the TR1 for my next ski purchase there. Hmmm. Interested to hear how well they tour for you.
+1 thanks for the review. The toes sound like what I am used to from the Vario. I wonder how the fiddle factor increases in the wet coastal snowpack. The vipecs and tectons are relatively easy, until wet snow or icing comes into play. The tr1 can be had for almost half of tectons so there's that.