If you shove your iPad in my face for a tip for something other than direct table service, I laugh at you.
It’s everywhere now and the service provided in years past has become non existent anymore.
So no, no tip for you.
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If you shove your iPad in my face for a tip for something other than direct table service, I laugh at you.
It’s everywhere now and the service provided in years past has become non existent anymore.
So no, no tip for you.
3 minutes. Very impressive.
Agreed, it's a stupid trend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
And most of the ipad routine is when you order, before any service has been done. It is tipping in advance and hoping you get good service. I make it a point to tell them, I tip in cash AFTER I see the service.
I don’t think that should be called tipflation. It may be obnoxious or inappropriate depending on where it happens but I think tipflation should be the act of over tipping because you want your friends and servers to think better of you or over tipping because you can’t figure out the math in your head. Or conversely, maybe it should be shrinking the tip because the establishment has raised prices so much that you can’t afford an appropriately generous tip. Tipflation is a good word though. I like it.
The whole tip economy needs to go. It’s a bullshit system based on ante bellum slave shit ffs. How about restaurants etc just pay their l workers like they do in the rest of the world.
And while we’re at it, includes the sales tax in the price of the item or fuck off. That sucks here too. Scrap heap it
And metric. Everything. Fucking feudal fuck sticks
I'd say tipflation is when the suggested/expected percentage starts at higher and higher values.
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I have no idea what level of service this was, but no options under 25% is pushing it for almost anything.
And yeah, pretty much every counter service place around here expects tips.
Full transparency here, got the term from CBS news :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Can't blame them for trying I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
I've cut way back except for really good service. Shit has just gotten too expensive.
Any business that depends on low wage employees is a dinosaur headed for extinction. Bring on the AI robots.
If you are in a situation where someone is servicing you, bar, hotel, ski/bike shop, restaurants, etc.
Tip well in cash.
Gratuity makes the world go round.
Those tips support essential services, drug dealers, cheap food joints, and taxis.
I know you work in this business but it’s 100% wrong in my opinion. Pay your employees so they don’t have to juggle this constant anxiety on a daily basis hoping to pay the bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Gratuity makes the world insane actually.
If you can't tip, don't go out. Don't go on vacation.
If all these places paid these tipped positions $20+ an hour you couldn't afford to go there.
Housekeepers make a decent wage and you should still tip them.
We’ll just agree to disagree. I’ve been hearing this from you for two decades. The longer time goes on, the worse the service gets. Kids now expect a big tip….for doing nothing more than their job.
I tipped my whole vacation last week to the tune of multiple hundreds of dollars. I didn’t get ANY extra service for that large sum of money. I’ll go elsewhere for sure next time but I will NOT be tipping just because it’s expected.
It’s a bullshit industry and it’s not my job to pay your employees. That’s your job.
Shit needs to change.
And please tell me why I should tip housekeepers that make a decent wage. For what Woodsy?
Help me make sense of that sentence because it does not.
Not to mention the "suggestion" of a tip for carryout orders.
We ordered a birthday cake for our son recently that had quite a bit of stuff going on with it. When we called to confirm the order a week out the girl on the phone (not a manager) could not have been more difficult, telling us no cake had been ordered and they don’t do the type of cakes that we did order.
We said, well, I have an email confirmation and my card has been charged so we should get to the bottom of this.
She persisted that we were calling the wrong bakery as they don’t do that. We read the name on the email invoice and she said yeah, she works here. Confused we asked to speak to someone in charge.
Got a call back that afternoon from the same girl that said we were right and that they had the order. No big deal just happy to have it settled. Then she says, we’re going to charge your card the balance today “how much do you want to tip, we suggest 25%”.
The wife said, that’s ok, we’ll pay when we pick it up next week and tip then.
Glad we didn’t as they forgot the order completely when we showed up to get it. Ended up taking someone else’s cake and modifying it which means someone who probably paid and tipped 25% in advance got screwed too.
The icing was ok but the cake was dry as shit. Would not buy again.
Worked for a guy once who sang you a song telling you how high the tips were. Had every idiot splitting tips and forgetting ppl etc. Hot air is my nickname for that guy.
Also, every apathetic easily offended snowflake now expects 25$ an hour to do mediocre at best work.
It's fucked.
Or... you know... vacation in Europe where you don't need to deal with this utter horseshit of a system. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
You're completely missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
^^^ Morgan Freeman saying "he's right you know" hereQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Or Japan, Australia, NZ, Southeast Asia, and pretty much everywhere else in the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Because of that disgusting mess you made of the hand towels, duh. Not to mention the pillow. :FIREdevilQuote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Couldn’t agree more on every point. I lived inSpain for 4 years, never once left a tip and the level of service at your local corner bar was always light years ahead of the service provided in any top level American restaurant I’ve ever been to. Bartenders slinging drinks, cooking and cleaning all at once. The fact they were also drinking on the job probably helped their level of friendliness. But they all made a decent middle class living.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
And for the love of all things holy we need to go metric on everything. As an electrician I just loathe dealing with imperial bs. Even the NEC lists every measurement in metric first, but we have to use ridiculous imperial measurements that are less accurate and require maths with fractions vs simple incremental whole numbers.
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How about when the staff working a Starbucks drive through sticks the credit card scanner and they say “this will ask you a question and then swipe your card” and the question is how much to tip. It’s gotten so weird.
How's the service over there? Does the waitsaff make more over there. Are the waiters and bus boys teenagers, single people, or imported? I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I tip 15-20%. I'm not rich but tip better than a lot of the rich people I know. Maybe that's why I'm not rich.
The world will never be free of the heavy yoke of imperialism until ratchet drivers are metric, too.
REBEL
The part that gets me is that the tipped service minimum wage jumped from $2.25 to $10.63p/h, and then the prices of the food jumped 15% , but we're still supposed to tip extra 5-10% vs pre-apocalypse.
The whole thing is bullshit. Tip is based on service, no service (to go or counter service)- no tip, mediocre - 15% and really good gets maybe 20 and always pre-tax. I recently got called out on the pre-tax thing and said "oh wait, give me back the receipt" and tore it up so they had to give me a new one. They got nothing the second time.
Shoulda just done the Publix cake. They haven't let me down yet, sometimes extremely last minute too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
You know that first time you saw the panhandler by the stoplight, or sitting on Pearl St? Remember feeling bad? Maybe you gave them some change? Remember seeing them for the 40th time and just cruising by no problem?
Remember the guy on Pearl St that could tell you shit about your town if you just gave him the zip? Or that amazing juggler, or the incredible Devil Stick Phish tour douche? Those guys earned your change.
That is how I am getting about tipping.
Publix cake is good cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
What can I say, kids are kinda spoiled these days.
And stores tipping the clarinet guy to move to the next block?Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
I just got back from a week in France. The waitstaff at every cafe, resto, etc. were simply excellent. We ate 4 course meals almost every night. We would order all courses up front and they would bring it out as it was prepared for the table. It gave a much more relaxed feel to each meal as there wasn't the constant, 'is everything okay...do you need anything else' barrage of questions to upsell the bill when our mouths were full. I noticed that the dinner restaurants essentially had one seating between 7:30-8pm and the tables never turned over during the evening. I can't say how much the wait staff made but they were mostly above 25 years old and seemed to be enjoying their work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cisco Kid
This is one of those reverse culture things that I experience when I visit stateside.
It just leaves me dumbfounded. I don’t know how to respond. I pretend I know. But I fucking hate it.
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Pre-pandemic a lot of the nicer restaurants in Seattle were charging more or charging a service fee and removed the tip box from the receipt…. but some went back to their old ways post pandemic when they were trying to staff back up….
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It's strange that the delivery people, who used to be tipped, are no longer getting tips. Currently, my UPS, FedEx and DHL guy just leave the package by the door and bolt. OTOH, I get asked for tips when I pick up takeout, buy something at a bodega, pet shop, or convenience store. The "expectation" is insane. Unless I am overtaken by a spendthrift mood, I tip only bartenders and food servers. As a society, we need to learn how to either say no, or just ignore presumption.
Yup.
If I could snap my fingers and change US tip culture.
- Remove the “required tip” for food service.
- Normalize occasionally / rare tipping for any service workers when they go way above and beyond.
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The additional "service" fee tacked on to the bottom of the check is what pisses me off more than the auto fill tablet tip field. At least I can select "other" on the tablet. You can't get out of the "service" fee bullshit.