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Wife and I are heading to Santa Fe for a long weekend next weekend.
We'll have two days mostly driving (down Hwy 84 from CO) and two full days there. Staying east of town.
Bringing bikes. What should we ride? Wife is competent but not expert rider. We're staying like halfway towards Glorietta so definitely going to check that out one day. What else? Anything along the drive we should stop at for a quick ride?
Recommendations for food, booze, other shit we should do or see, etc. welcome.
If you're coming in from the north ojo caliente is nice
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Eat green chilies.
Coming from where you are, are you looking for New Mexican food recommendations or stuff like Thai, Indian, sushi?
Hot springs?
Windsor trail seems like a must ride. Easily shuttled with the city transit if you can load before the crowds. I think it's a fine trail for a competent rider ~ 9 miles downhill plus a few more on roads back to town. Dale Ball trails look worth checking out too.
La Tierra system is mellow and good for beginner - intermediate riders. Galisteo Basin trails seem similar, but I've not ridden there.
So much good food in SF...Cafe Pascals worth going to if you can get a reservation. The pizza place next to Chili Line Brewing is good. Went to Fiesta Oaxaca a few times when we were there last cause we liked it so much.
AND Meow Wolf... Allow a few hours if it's your sorta thing.
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Check out Meow Wolf
There you go, beat me
For quick rides close to town, the Dale Ball trails are good. Generally DB Central and North are easier and DB South is steeper.
There’s a great loop from Upper Canyon/Cerro Gordo that is counter clockwise, rides up to Hyde Park road and back down “The Luge” to Cerro G. 60-120 mins.
Winsor and it’s loops are great (Chamisa, Burn, Borrego, Bear Wallow, Sidewinder, Juan, Little-T, etc.)anything above SFSA will be wet I think.
If you end in Tesuque, beers and pizza at the Tesuque Village Market is a good call. When I was local, we’d never end a ride in tesuque this time of year because of multiple stream crossings below the Chamisa intersection. I think most crossings have bridges now (and a new alternative that is higher up on the slope) but not sure. Lots of options for loops there.
Food:
Someone mentioned Pasquale’s it’s good but there’s better.
Breakfast/Lunch:
Dolina. A must for breakfast. Can’t say enough good things
El Chile Toreado. Food cart with the best breakfast burrito on earth. Lunch tacos good. Not NM food, Mexican.
CrashMurderBusiness: excellent new coffee shop.
Counter Culture. Breakfast or lunch.
Tune Up: used to be excellent but last meal I ate there was meh. Popular.
Dinner:
The best green chile cheeseburger on earth is the Alien Burger at 2nd Street Brewery. Go to the Railyard location. Seriously this is must
Palomas: upscale twist on NM + Spanish cousine. Excellent. Make a reservation
La Choza: excellent traditional NM food. Make a reservation. Substitute Tomasitas is acceptable if you can’t get a table
Jambo: Caribbean + African food. Wildly popular local place. Legit. Jerk Chicken (with the curry Mayo sauce) is amazing.
I’ll be there tomorrow night for work!
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Cafe Sierra Negra in Abiquiu if it is time to eat, also have some baked goods. Turkey Springs in Pagosa has mellow trails similar to Boggy Draw.SanAntonio hot springs is a bit out of the way and hit or miss based on type and size of crowd.
This is why I love this place. Keep it coming!
Great question! Our local food scene is basically good Mexican, one good farm to table type place and.... that's about it.Quote:
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New Mexican definitely, if there's good sushi we haven't had that since leaving the Frange, places that are especially good for other cuisines definitely as well.
Go find the Sea Princess for intuitive doodle workshops, chakra alignments and soul retrieval.Quote:
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Sushi (and fabulous Japanese tapas) - Izanami. Izanami in proximate to Ten Thousand Waves, one of the best hot tub/spas in the US. Otherwise Tech Tonics laid out good stuff.
The streams, like along the Winsor trail have been kind of high, so trails like Dale Ball might be a respite from the wetness. Unless you like mud.
El Nido in Tesuque recently started a sushi menu, I’ve had good stuff there.
La Choza for New Mexican.
Meow Wolf fer shure.
Tía Sophia’s in downtown for New Mexican breakfast.
The Shake Foundation for green chile cheeseburgers.
Radish & Rye bar for drinks. Great ribs there too. Maria’s for margs, but don’t bother eating there.
Vinaigrette for salads In case you guys are in that kind of mood. The duck tacos there are pretty awesome.
Two Street or Rowley’s for beers, ales, pub food.
Opuntia is good for brunch or lunch.
Art and/or museums?
I might add more later.
Edit: La Boca for tapas.
Dale's balls for mtb
The south section is def hiking can't believe they let you ride there
Probably still lots of snow up high????
Ojo caliente sucks cock super expensive they pretend it'd all special and resorty they didn't have one tub that was hot enough to boil my sperm into oblivion
Stay clear of the white earth trails your car will get broken into.
Did any one say over rated Georgia O'Keefe
Gambling and you can smoke inside while gambling for the win
Went to the sushi japenese steak house restaurant up at the ojo resort above town it was killer dropped 3 hundred on dinner it was amazing
Been to lots of places but usual get pretty shitty so I can't remember the food at all that
Stroll canyon road and look at over priced so called art.
Or just keep driving another six hrs and visit some real towns.
Santa gay has been over rated fir decades but I'd still live there
That’s Izanami.Quote:
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Heh. Like El Paso?Quote:
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I do.Quote:
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Walk up and down Canyon Road and visit art galleries.
Paper Dosa for Indian food. Make reservations.
Tech and skipper had a lot of great suggestions.
Kakawa chocolate.
Valentinas for the best breakfast soapapillas in the world.
Izanami
Joseph's for the best duck fat fries, great food, exceptional sorbet
Second street alien burger better than shake foundation IMHO.
Chichsrones at El Farol.
Skip La tierra trails
Ride glorietta
Like skipper said, Windsor might be wet and upper part not in? I don't live there anymore so I don't know. If upper in from ski area that would be a great b ride for your wife per your description of her riding level. There is more gnarly stuff to ride up there but likely not appropriate.
Have fun!
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Did you get some Santa Fe appropriate outfits for this journey? It's a thing for a lot of people that visit there or live there part time. It's kind of like Dumb and Dumber when they are in Aspen but more Native American inspired.
Tell me more. I already had to change my whole wardrobe in the last year from full City (skinny jeans, obscure band shirts, and Converse high tops) to full Country (overalls, muck boots, flannels). Now you're telling me I gotta get a whole 'nother wardrobe to go on vacation? Fuck.Quote:
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Do you want to blend in with the local shamans, art dealers, or cowboys?Quote:
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Here, you’ll fit in with the visitors. Typical Texan outfit.
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New Mexico - So far from Heaven, so close to Tejas.
Eat. When in NM, you eat. Bike, eat, sleep, repeat.
Came here to say Tomasitas. Legit green chile and not as touristy as some of the other places IMO. I'll be there in a few weeks for a quick rendezvous with mi madre, I hope to talk her into going to Meow Wolf with me.
I like Ojo Caliente's hot springs, but I haven't been to Ojo Santa Fe to compare the two. The mud bath at Ojo Caliente is a real treat. They do a decent job of keeping the noise down, you can actually relax and get your zen on, unlike the junkshow up the road from me. It has a very NM vibe to it, usually pinion burning in the outdoor kivas, and it is very clean. And because it's a little pricey it keeps (most of) the tweakers out. ;) It might be worth hitting on your way back to CO.
It’s been awhile since I’ve been but fwiw, and mostly reiterating spots already mentioned. Heck I think MS and others recommended some of these to me back then.
Loved Tia Sophia’s for breakfast. But exercise caution if eating there morning of departure. Almost shit my pants in Trinidad. Not blaming food but more likely green chile morning after 2-3 days of green chile and IPAs (Marble Brewing taproom now closed I think)
Was also a fan of Tomasita’s, which we ate the night before. They crank out the food.
2nd Street in Railyard for pub food and pretty good beers from what I remember.
Is farmers market going on? There was a really good one when we were there. In Railyard area.
Folk Art museum was kinda cool
Order Christmas everywhere.
I've been to both of these places. Pretty sure due to either yours or Meadow Skipper's recommendations in a previous thread. They were both MOST excellent and indeed I'll repeat the recommendation.Quote:
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At Paloma, I'm pretty sure I did the short rib barbacoa with their esquites as a side. Suuuuuper good.
La Choza is what I think of when it comes to "New Mexican" food, and it's done about as right as can be. Think I had their Chiles Rellenos. Fantastic margaritas by whomever was bartending at the time.
Enjoy your trip to Santa Fe, OP! I've always had an enjoyable time.
Isn't that smell just the BEST?! I used to visit my aunts who lived in NM when I was growing up so it's very nostalgic to me. Burning piñon tells you EXACTLY where you are. Nothing beats when you're there in the dead of winter, the crisp, cold mountain air, and smelling that as you walk the streets late at night or sit in front of one of those kivas at a nice B&B. Pure bliss.Quote:
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OK sick, so same outfit as I wear in the summer at home, although I run the shorts quite a bit shorter and the neckline lowerQuote:
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You know you're a tourist when you recommend tomasitaa instead of La Choza.
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As usual y'all killed it with the suggestions, especially Tech Tonics and Meadow Skipper. Thanks dudes.
Marias - definitely a must for margs. Over 200 on the menu apparently? Unfortunately I was unable to try all of them but the couple I did have were fucking awesome. This was our first stop and only issue was it made margs everywhere else seem substandard by comparison. Followed the advice to not eat there and based on the salsa that came with the chips they gave us I don't think we missed much.
La Choza was definitely the best New Mexican dinner we had. They're not taking reservations and it's a bit of a shit show so early or late is the play. Worth it though. Tomasita's as an alternate was good advice - not quite as good, but a lot easier to get a table and still delicious.
2nd Street Brewery - alien burger is baller and the beer acceptable
Dolina - holy shit, one of the best breakfasts I've had anywhere with exceptional service to boot. I owe Tech Tonics a beer for the heads up on this place.
Counter Culture - solid breakfast and coffee
Tia Sophia's - good breakfast, but I wouldn't wait over an hour to get a table like some people were. Also would advise arriving pre-caffeinated, coffee was pretty meh.
Kawaka Chocolate - awesome
Adding to the list for anyone that searches - La Lecheria in Railyard for ice cream. Super good.
Glorietta trails - absolutely top notch. I know they hired an excellent trail building company and man it shows. Need to go back and ride more there.
We also rode Dale's Hot and Sweaty Balls and while it was fine as an in-town trail system next time I would just go ride Glorietta again or put the logistics together for Winsor.
Georgia O'Keefe museum - we enjoyed it
I had already forgotten how much driving and parking in a city (even a small one like Santa Fe) sucks ass.
We detoured up to Ojo Caliente on the way back and Fred is right, not recommended if you're into boiled sperm but I'm content with mildly toasted. Nice place. Wouldn't be worth what they charge on weekends but midweek it was worth the stop.
Meow Wolf?
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Thanks for the TR!!! Glad to hear the good report. Neat place to visit, huh? And yeah, I definitely owe our locals a beer next time I'm there for all the solid advice.Quote:
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What to do in Santa Fe when you're dead.
Fifu
I think you need the triple combo to really knock the ball out of the park. Sedona has that going on too but it's much more simple hiker look with a Columbia fishing guide/hiking shirt, a brimmed hat, a walking stick and maybe a feather or two on the stick. There's gotta be a website where tourists figure out what to wear before they get to these places or maybe they just put it all together right when they get there? I don't know.Quote:
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I had a vision for something I might wear my next time to Santa Fe that was basically what muted listed but with a heavy dose of Loyd and Harry dressing for Aspen in the motion picture Dumb And Dumber.
Whatever, I love Santa Fe and all of New Mexico. The weirdness of the state really attracts me.
If it's winter the skiing is really good. The tree skiing is spectacular.
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Well Santa Fe used to be part of Texas, so seems appropriate.Quote:
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Texas thinks that. Santa Fe never did. Not the only time, by a long shot, Texas has had its own (unshared) version of reality.Quote:
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Edit: Texans didn’t do so well on securing Santa Fe, their ambitious map notwithstanding.
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Texas? It's not even in the US!
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Shameful treatment of a peaceful trade envoy.
Here, let me fix that for you.
“Poor New Mexico! So far from heaven, so close to Texas.”Quote:
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- Manuel Armijo, governor of New Mexico, ca. 1841
Hahaha! That quote is gold!