Rough year.
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Lack of knowledge and experience and blatant disregard to the posted signage on this one. LL posts on there signage u may die going beyond this rope…for good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angle Parking
That traverse across tge top has caught more than a few people. I thought that was part of the hill now? Maybe closed for spring solar radiation?
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It didn’t open all season due to the rotten snowpack and basal facet situation…Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Also lack of gear. It will be telling to see how deep the burial was and whether or not there was trauma.Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
Would they really have You May Die signs for an inbound closed area? I thought those were typically reserved for gates leading to the BC (oft times with a beacon check). Either way we generally ski right past those knowing we may die.
I was there all weekend and the west bowl was closed with those signs everywhere. We saw more than a dozen tracks ducking ropes in that area from the summit chair, as well as entering in from the outer limits ridge line. People seem to has this weird notion that patrol wants to keep shit closed for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Dumb. Ways. To. Die.
I hope the people who put in those tracks in are feeling guilty after the consequences for the people who followed their example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
How steep is that? Looks hella steep with all the exposed rock
Like 35-38ish. There's steeper lines to the north/northwest of the west bowl.
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Originally Posted by nickinbc
I don't know about guilty but I'm sure they're feeling lucky.
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Originally Posted by yeahman
The people that got caught are responsible for their own actions. The folks that skied it and didn't get caught are also responsible for their actions, but only theirs. They are in no way responsible for anyone that followed them.
Jesus there's a bunch of nannies in this forum.
This right here^Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Everyone above saying otherwise needs to read this twice.
Sucks about the guy who got slid. Man that slide ripped!
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I'm not going to argue for guilting people who got away with something. But someone decided to duck a rope where there were no tracks (maybe the same people who got caught just on an earlier lap). The last people to go decided to duck a rope that had tracks, which is an easier thing to trick yourself into. Apart from that the choices were identical, they just had different outcomes.
Ideally tracks wouldn't influence anyone's decision making. But ideally no other form of peer pressure would, either. And the argument itself is an attempt to create peer pressure to influence others, so obviously no one quite believes that.
Ultimately powdork is right that individuals are responsible for their own actions but it would be pretty naive to think that individuals make decisions in a vacuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
I followed tracks when I was a young skier figuring out my way in the mountains.
I try to conceal my entry points to the cliff area adjacent to the boundary at our local hill. Local kids see me coming out of there and I know for a fact that they go looking for my tracks.
If youre leaving tracks to somewhere that looks like a good place to ski, you can bet money someone else is gonna follow them.
Everyone should be responsible for their own actions. But if your ducking ropes to the danger zone, you have some responsibility as well rope or no rope
I long ago learned that following another set of tracks might get me in trouble, its all on the end loser IME/ IMO
edit: Group of kids got cliffed out in the local side country so patrol asked me to do the work of putting up rope cuz they stay in-bounds and didnt really know or want to have anything to do with whats going on out there, I duno what would happen if they need a rescue out thar. So they gave me a buncha rope I went out on skins hung it all, a good way to really know your side country is to walk the line or even put it up yourself, a bit of self interest cuz I have also missed that traverse and cliffed myself out ... had to hike/ swim back
Disclaimer- don’t follow my tracks. U may die! Everyone needs to be accountable for their own actions. Don’t pull a Trudeau!
Following others tracks WILL get you killed at resorts where the paragliders hang. You follow anyone's tracks, that's on you. Not the guys who put in the tracks.
I always took a much harder line when the closure being violated was an in bounds avi closure.
2 weeks on the bench was the minimum, the "I was following other tracks" brought additional ridicule and the offer of an additional week off for being a dumb fuck.
Y’all remember the POS pro knuckledragger that poached sugarbowl palisades, avalanched himself, survived, posted GoPro vid on YouTube, and got his ass kicked? That whole thing still makes me mad.
To confuse the matter, aren’t tracks part of that Muenter (sp?) reduction method?Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
Newbs following tracks at any ski hills, especially with excellent skiers/boarders at places like Whistler/blackcomb/ Jackson etc will get u killed. Blaming others and not being accountable for your actions = not being responsible for your own actions.
To put in perspective = Opposite of the skier’s responsibility code…
I mean jesus dude we get the point but if you bring one sided politics into this aren't you just as retarded as your former president / prime minister who did exactly what your deriding?Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
Lol- I said how I really felt, then I changed it as I felt tgr wasn’t ready for the red pill. But u however quoted me in real time…Whatever…it’s not one sided it’s called reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
No gates or closures locally, just a sign that sez " before you go you should know " and then bunch a bunch of yada saying bbe prepared & you are on your own
it doesnt really matter where you are skiing or how bro the rider is, it only takes one cliff to fuck up your day
does canada now have a president or did we become a state or did I miss a news cycle ?
BTW this Lake Louise incident happened in Alberta ... AKA Mordor
LOL. Oh, hot damn! TGR Q Army. RED PILL REALITY! Holy shit that’s a gas. Trust the plan, man. Trust the plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
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I don't think Munter devised his method for INBOUNDS CLOSURESQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Vibes to all those who knew the victim and rest in peace...
^ This motherfucker has to be a bot.