I love my old 108 mm Line Sir Francis Bacons as my go to soft snow/powder area ski- playful, quick and easy. What’s similar that’s a tad wider?
I area ski Telluride, Crested Butte, Silverton mostly.
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I love my old 108 mm Line Sir Francis Bacons as my go to soft snow/powder area ski- playful, quick and easy. What’s similar that’s a tad wider?
I area ski Telluride, Crested Butte, Silverton mostly.
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Um.
Pilsner Hoji (112mm)?
New Nordica Unleashed 114 (next year?)
Season Pass would qualify for two tads wider (116mm) and light/playful? Season Nexus is supposed to be a stiffer Bacon....but its only 106mm wide? I think the Pass is a wider, lighter Nexus?
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Reckoner 112
Line blade optic 114
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This is like when people ask what your favorite jacket is....people post the jacket they have lol. Line SFBs are directional playful skis...paging rfconroy because he's skied them.
There are really an outrageous number of skis that fit this description
ON3P Jeffrey, Woodsman, or Mango 110
Moment Deathwish
Blizzard Rustler 11
Atomic Bent 110
K2 Reckoner 112
Maybe give us more info? Or demo? Offhand, I'd suggest the Jeffrey 110 or Bent 110.
Atomic BC 110 and Reckoner 112 are good picks.
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just join the Mfree 108 circlejerk like the rest of us. "tad wider" means going to 114+ because absolutely no one is going to notice the difference of a couple of mm. Anywhere around 110 is what you should look at.
The bent 110 is for people that found a Bacon stiff and planky. It folded on me when I was hand-flexing it..
Best 110-112 skis?
Deathwish, on3p jeff 110, bent 110.
Really wish there were a revolt 112.
Reckoner - yup.
Deathwish is the most traditional mount. The others are all pretty jibby - more like the sfb.
These are all stiffer than the SFB.
Maybe the mango 110 is the answer?
...What about 114?Quote:
Originally Posted by SupreChicken
Yep or MPro108. The other is the Stockli Stormrider tt110 if ya can find it. Word on the street is Marshal is conjuring up a 10something for next year @Heritage Lab.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeMagnet
This really is subject to what you are truly looking for tho. So many choices in this category. Never skied it but the Rossi Sender Squad is sick. Only fondled in the shop. Want to ski it so bad.
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I used to ski CB and the deathwish was a sweet soft snow ski for all the mini golf terrain there. Super easy to spool it up and shut it down on jumps, drops etc. Playful enough but still stout with decent edgehold. Not my favorite in truly deep snow but that is so rare at CB that the DW is really the fattest ski you need.
I think the mfree 118 is a sensational ski.
These (nor the MFree series) aren't anything like the Sir Francis Bacon, which is one of the softest and most playful skis out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
I will throw in for the DeathWish as well for this type of snow and terrain. Really fun and amazingly versatile in these types of conditions.
V Werks Katana… why not start at the top?
I know. I was more responding to the thread title. When I read the Sfb, I just laughed and left my reply.Quote:
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Same as above. Not even close to the Bacon.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
Most skis being recommended. We obviously don’t care. Lol! His thread title asked for best. Our attention spans can’t be tested with reading his real question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindahl
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If you love the 108mm SFB, the skis I consider the best in this category will seem like too much work.
Not my cup of tea but the Bent 110 seems logical. I wasnt a SFB fan.
Probably the only suggestion that is in line with the OP's wishes is the Mango 110. Most of the other suggestions in this thread are absolutely no where near what an SFB is.
Look for an older DPS 112 RP in the garage of someone who doesn't actually ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessiøn
Maybe Eric Pollard’s new brand/ski?!? Season, I’m guessing he hasn’t strayed too far from what he used to like at Line.
He strayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SacTo
Ouch- in all fairness, the Bacons are a bit soft for me and would like a bit more muscle...looking at the K2 Reckoner 112s...Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
To be fair not many people have been on that ski and basically every other 110-112 ski was mentioned :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sessiøn
Jeffrey 110. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by bovine
I'm inclined to agree. And as a bonus, the bases are the most durable I've come across, and that certainly matters in these parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
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Originally Posted by bovine
then get a rustler 11 and stop playing around.
V-werx katana is the best 112mm ski for sure, and it's what I came here to say when I read the thread title.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
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You idiots out measuring your dicks too? Just go ski, what is up with these stupid gapicski threads??? JFC
Bringing this thread back to the top. I'm wondering what OP ended up with.
I'm the rare TGR nerd that rides the SFB, too. So much hate for that ski around here. I ride the newer (2022) 107ww, so I can't directly compare it to the older ski. I find the 2022 to be pretty darned fun if it's your style of ski and fits you (I'm 6', 160lbs wet). I don't need much more ski. It bangs through trees with aplomb, floats powder with a crazy fun surfy style, carves soft groomers and slithers through moguls. I like that I can ski every inch of the ski, from tip to tail (former snowboarder here with "untraditional" technique).
It hates chop and chunder, it has a speed limit (that if you're psycho you just push through anyway) and is borderline terrifying on ice.
I'm on the same quest as OP, though I keep wandering back to the SFB. All I'm really looking to accomplish is a slightly longer radius and a more damp performer. I think I still like the progressive mount point, so here are the skis on my list:
4FRNT Devastator. Full rocker. No metal. 108ww
ON3P Jeffrey 110 (TGR's suggestion in my last thread). Deep rocker lines. No metal.
Dynastar MFree 108. Lots of tip/tail taper. Deep rocker lines. No metal (that I know of..)
J Skis Hotshot. More traditional rocker lines, metal and heft.
I've heard great things about all of them. I've watched the Jeff and Mfree in action (they look like they ski similarly). I ski a 4FRNT Switch as my park/groomer/spring ski, but the Dev has a very different profile.
I bet I could be happy on any of them. Dev's are sold out in 186. J Ski's is doing the free Pivot 14 with purchase of ski's, deal (pretty solid deal). Hmmmmm.......
I haven't even gotten the Faction La Machine's delivered that I ordered last week, yet. I should pace my ski buying, but the mid season deals are here or coming.
FWIW, I have the 120 Bent's and don't totally Jive with them. Some would say that they are very similar to the SFB, but I think the side cut profile and camber/rocker make them ski very differently. I can get down with the Bent's in the soft snow, but once it firms up they go back into the garage.
Sorry, rambling on......
Oh and to really blow everyone's minds on TGR: I use the SFB most days that I'm instructing for the Big Mountain team. :eek:
I haven't pulled the trigger on an area ski to replace my Bacons. These days I only ski the area maybe a half dozen times, the rest of the time I'm touring. I put my $ towards a new touring set up- some Moment Deathwish Tour 112s w/Salomon MTN bindings. I'm super stoked on them. I tour in the San Juans. Every season I say to myself, "I'm tired of the constant high avy danger." But every time I go out touring on weekends I feel so much better and just keep doing it. I love skiing the backcountry and my glory days of lift-served skiing are now very fond memories.
I'll probably just keep my Bacons- great skis!
That's me unless I'm skiing with my kids or old friends. Rustler 11's are now my only skis with alpine bindings. I tried adding a second ski to my resort quiver for a few years but gave up because I would pretty much ignore the other skis and use the Rustlers. I liked some of the other skis plenty (Billy Goats and Black Crows Corvus, notably) but found them far less versatile and not worth keeping given my ski habits.Quote:
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But I wouldn't recommend the 11's as the be-all and end-all for others. There is so much variety AND quality in that segment now. Even friends who ski sort of like me prefer different models.
I've heard great things about the 10's and 11's.Quote:
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I'm still at this stage where my skiing and preferences are shifting fast. I took a 20 year break from skiing to snowboard. I'm 4 years back to skiing and average 70 days a year. My last skis before that were straight and long.
Right now I'm skiing everything that I can get my hands on, but tend to have a fairly centered stance, so I keep going back to progressive mounted skis. I also like skiing park and switch, so I like twins. The Bacon's fit my surfy style and don't penalize me for getting into to the back seat when I get lazy. Oddly, I feel like I can drive the front of them when it's steep and soft. Totally anti what most would say about them (I'm also pretty light for 6'). My only real complaint with them is lack of stability at speed and ability to dampen chop. The quest continues. I'll probably pick up some Jeff 110's or Devastator's, but I may ride out the rest of the season on the Bacon's. I have already picked up two new sets of skis this year (Faction La Machine and 4FRNT Swith's)
Never enough skis. Never enough time to ski.
ETA: I want the same impossible ski we all want: a ski that I can hammer chop with. Both carve through and bang over moguls. Slice and dice trees. Pick through drop lines, drop and ride out through chop. Carve groomers and navigate late afternoon refreeze. Pound fresh snow (shallow and deep). Is that too much to ask? :)
Haven't skied the SFB, but have a lot of time on the Jeff and a few days on the mfree108. The mfree is a great ski, looser, more versatile, better on groomers than the jeff, but the jeff imo is more fun. Since you like the bacon so much (-2 mount), I think going to the mfree (-8.25 mount) is going to be a notable adjustment in ski style where the jeff (~-4.5 mount) is going to be more along the lines of the bacon. The Jeff will be what your asking for, better in chop, longer radius, more damp, while still a progressive mount, whether you actually like a damper, heavier ride is another story. My ski group consists of one or the other, either you like heavier, beefier skis (on3p skis) or you like light skis (line vision), I don't know many people who ski both at the resort.Quote:
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Thanks for the input. You could very well be right. In the end I may prefer the lighter, softer ski. I don't have the experience to know. I'd like to ski the Jeff and Devastator. Different skis in some ways, similar in others. Both share some traits with the SFB.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeachesNCream
QST Blank yo!
Joining the thread because I also love the SFB. I love them so much I bought a second pair for my touring setup.
I do disagree with the Jeffrey suggestions. They are extremely boring skis in comparison, and their sidecut is much much less dialed. The only aspect of the Jeff I find playful is the flex to be honest. They have good flex, durability, and speed limit but edge poorly, float poorly (in comparison), are heavy, and are less nimble.
Or start playing around. It's really a great ski.Quote:
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