Get ready for some long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long lines...
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Get ready for some long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long lines...
https://snowbrains.com/epic-pass-42-...-to-reduction/
Gross
LMFAO Epic baby!
#GONORDIC
#Inb4same4Ikon
None of the places I ski take Epic or IKoN. It's still a total shitshow every weekend and holiday through President's Day. Weekdays before Christmas or After MLK not so much though
The old dot com business plan "sell dollars for 95 cents and make up the difference in volume."
Vail sucks
The big question re lineups: how many Ikon pass holders also bought cheap Epic passes or did folks buy cheap Epic passes instead of Ikon?
The day may come when a resort advertises: "You won't be sharing the slopes with any Epic Ikons at our mountain".
There is certainly a divide emerging between locals and the pass-holding hordes that descend the major areas these days. I've been on both sides and there's no way to win, it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
Stowestorm parking backed up to 89.
More like sell gift cards that you hope expire before too many people redeem them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talisman
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Originally Posted by DanoT
As far as I know, none of the resorts around NC take either of those passes.. Still a total shitshow weekends and holidays..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig
I’d be curious to know how it compares to 2019 numbers. I know lots of locals who didn’t buy passes last season due to the COVID uncertainty. For instance, two buddies didn’t buy passes last year. They both did and one bought a pass for his kid. They all had passes in 2019 but none had passes in 2020.
That being said, with no reservation system and pent up demand, I do expect it to be crazy busy.
There is also the “need to provide proof of vaccination” to eat in most of the on mountain lodges that Epic announced recently, too. I wonder what impact that may have?
We don't need any more ski areas near west coast cities. Skiing is on a decline.
How many people bought passes because it is now cheaper to buy the pass than 4 lift tickets but won't change their skiing habits?
How much did pass sales drop for the 2020-21 season?
I think it's hard to quantify how this changes the dynamic at the resorts until the season starts.
This year is gonna be Epic. Night skiing in my future
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b4dab42707.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
Nobody who might actually has a problem providing that proof really believes that it will be enforced against them. Based on what I saw at the crowded resorts mask and max number inside (lack of) enforcement last season they're probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
As for the numbers... There's still pent up demand from folks who sat out all or most of last season. It will be worse than 2019 unless..... drought..
No matter what...Vail is making $$$$..
Does suck to see. What company was it that ruined the northeast? Les otten guy or something?. Fuck if that wasn't the picture of things to come.
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I’d imagine a big portion of the increased sales are out of towns that will only ski enough days to get their money’s worth from the reduced price. People that ski a lot or are local to an area are going to buy the pass anyway.
I bought epic local and Indy pass, and I’ll probably only use my epic no more than 7 days as it involves a plane flight and significant effort to ski coming from the ATL.
It probably won’t look much different than 2019 ski season. Not that that is really a good thing because it was pretty fucked, but I doubt crowds are any worse this year.
The last two seasons I’ve bought non-holiday 5 pack passes. This season it isn’t much more just to get epic local and I’ll do an extra late season trip to get the days in.
No, it is gonna be fucked. Not only are pass sales through the roof, there are a shitton more full time residents, and WFHers who can sneak out for a few laps in the AM.Quote:
Originally Posted by paj
BTW keep an eye on flights into Eagle Co airport (EGE). Direct flights into Eagle are kinda reasonable from ATL. Get a cheap airbnb or hotel in Eagle and take the Eco bus to BC or Vail. Far less traffic on that side of I70. Trips from ATL are really easy if you do it right.
Wow, you guys blew it. I didn't buy a pass last year mainly because of reservation requirements. Seeing those are now gone because of this thread, I'm going to give Vail money again...
See you all at Stevens Pass in a couple months!
You’re welcome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyo
Those of us who skied last year know we were the actual winners. 600” year at Stevens and the reservation system favored pass holders. I got every day I wanted. And the slopes were nowhere near busy on weekends.
In comparison, this season may seem like a madhouse. But it’s going to be another La Niña, so what’s not to be stoked about?
See you at Stevens…ask for change. [emoji6]
VPR did a piece yesterday about staffing at VT ski areas. It was mentioned that vaccine requirements were a way to convince potential hires that it would be safe to work there. That seemed to be the driving force behind the requirements. They were even talking about paying resort employees more. Pretty sure having to deal with obnoxious rich slobs will remain part of the job description though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Maybe this will draw traffic to Stowe and away from Sugarbush?
No, wait.....it'll all be a total shitshow.
Maybe a five minute wait at my local ski area on a weekend powder day. Season pass was $355 early season.
Trails could be a bit more crowded, but at least the lines will be shorter :wink:. From a link in that article:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
Stowe Mountain Resort, Mountain Lift: The replacement and extension of the existing fixed-grip triple to a high-speed 6-person lift will increase uphill capacity by 100%, eliminate the steep hike to the base of the lift, improve reliability on windy days and offer beginner and intermediate guests with better access to lower-level terrain choices.
I thought it was funny on the podcast with Taos ceo that they purposely made the maze steep on the Katchina chair to keep some people away.Quote:
Originally Posted by powbmps
Fucking vail should not own Stowe or Wildcat. Disgusting.
Many.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
I bought the cheapest Epic product I could and then bought other passes.
Also a lot of the people who used to work 10 days a season for their free pass just paid for a pass this year because it was so cheap vs the time spent.
Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?
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That's me! I am also one of the poors.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Glad to see the TGR Vail whining has started so early this year - this must mean an early start to snowfall.
Folks who live 200 miles from the mountains and have day jobs. When I worked in retail weekends were required and i had a weekday or two off instead. Not anymore though..Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
You can’t ski everyday, without skiing weekends.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Ikon and MC haven’t really effected Aspen too badly.
What if you tour on weekends to avoid the crowds at the lifts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
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That’s fine, if you have too. It’s not an issue here.
I tour when I want too. Mostly when the lifts aren’t running or leaving from the top, for slack country laps.
Not sure if serious...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
On that last part, I wonder if it's some protectionism by the local resort or just a savvy revenue move by IKON?Quote:
Originally Posted by goCougs
Of the former, it's a great way to keep the IKON horde at bay, and I'm one. As to the latter; it's a great way to sell a lot of passes, but restrict usage of some resorts, thereby increasing profit by disallowing skiing at those areas. JHMR is also doing this, much to my chagrin.
Beaters like meQuote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn