Was looking for another item at Tognar and saw this. Couldn't you make this with two boards like 5 mm apart and an aggressive file below?
https://www.tognar.com/toko-world-cu...per-sharpener/
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Was looking for another item at Tognar and saw this. Couldn't you make this with two boards like 5 mm apart and an aggressive file below?
https://www.tognar.com/toko-world-cu...per-sharpener/
Could you? Probably.
All I know is I will never NOT have a scraper sharpener.
Yes, Panzar file clamped to the bench.
for years i just used a file, its not that hard to more or less hold the scraper at 90 degree on the file but now I got one made by swix, it screws to the bench and its red
faster eh
I use drywall sand paper on the workbenches and just eyeball it close to vertical. Works pretty well.
I have a bunch of old stones that have proved useful for this purpose.
Panzar as well....Quote:
Originally Posted by singlecross
This right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_B
Sandpaper and like a piece of wood or angle bracket or something to slide against for the angle.
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If you tune a lot of skis and don't do anything else in your shop I suppose it makes sense. A vise (everyone should have one) and a flat file (likewise) will do a fine job of sharpening a scraper and a lot more. I try to avoid tools that only do one thing, although sometimes it can't be helped, or I don't want to help it if the tool is cool enough (mostly planes).
I relate to this strongly.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Panzer clamped to a 0 degree or 1 degree bevel guide - they're already sitting in my tool basket.
Is it time for the Q&P video yet? "2/3 sidewall, 1/3 edge ... that ought to be 3 degrees."
Me ... any old file up against a vertical surface. An 88 degree angle is no better or worse than a perfect 90.
... Thom
I used to do this but the paper gums up and becomes less effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayItLeo
Last year I bought a panzer file and I'm eyeballing the angle and its SOOOO much better!
Might make some sort of jig for it to get more vertical as well.
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Panzer laid on bench w/ tang backed up to something solid. No clamp, no guide. All you need is a smooth edge, it doesn't need 90
I have this one. Nothing special but it works pretty well. Think I paid around $12 for it a few years ago. Can definitely just use a file, but this was cheap and seems to get the job done.
Why bother with that or files or sandpaper when you could get one of these.......Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
https://www.toko.ch/fileadmin/Dateil...arpener_b1.jpg
https://www.toko.ch/en/wax-tools/too...world-cup-pro/
I worked in a shop that had one of these, we would burn through scrapers from the frequent sharpening.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Drywall sanding screen taped to a bench... use a block of wood as a guide if you must. Cheapest, most efficient way to sharpen a scraper. I’ve used every method and device under the sun, nothing comes close in my book.
Me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by old goat
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End of thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyderjon
I had the red Swix sharpener on my bench and after several years the file would not keep a sharp edge on the scraper.
A new scraper is $6-8. You can by 6-8 scrapers for the price if that non-electric Toko. Your choice.
You just going to toss the scraper when edge gets ragged? Happens pretty quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
Use a file card on your file. Can't see plastic wearing out a file.
Also, lexan can be bought by the sheet and cut your own.
Always good to have a small scraper whilst touring...
I have the red one (obviously) and found every once in a while knocking out the file and cleaning it well is essential. good as new after that.
And then a couple weeks later you have 6-8 dull scrapers and we're back to the original premise of this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
One of the guys in our communal ski shop brought in one of these. With the novelty of having one of these available, we all were getting new scrapers after about three weeks. These definitely take a bite out of the scraper life.
https://www.skiscrapersharpener.com/
I use a cheap belt sander, might be this exact model, paid around $50
https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-1...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
A couple of weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
I was given one of those and it didn't hold up. Burnt the motor in one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
I ended up getting an Edgr. I know, dentist move (it was $249 when I bought mine), but so nice to always have a really sharp scraper.
https://shopcoldriver.com/products/e...aper-sharpener
I bought a bunch of 3x5" plastic from TAP Plastics and usually just sharpen a stack of them in one session to minimize the shavings floating around.
Did you try replacing the panzer file? Or sharpening it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
For single-purpose tools, something like https://the-raceplace.com/products/m...aper-sharpener
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/13...g?v=1477942670
I use the larger Swix panzer file-and-guide setup; with a discount, I can easily deal with the price. Given that it usually takes 2-3 pairs of skis to dull a scraper (fewer with CH4), having something on the bench is critical. I miss the power sharpener a previous employer had, but there's no way I can justify one to my wife (and I don't particularly like the Swix/Toko ones—they're too narrow and the 5mm scrapers don't fit through cleanly).
I used drywall screen and the when I got a panzer in a vice moved on. Panzar more better.
Once you get used to a sharp scraper there is no going back.
when my kid raced biathalon the coach told me he would get a sheet cut up at the local plastics shop at beginning of season, it didnt work very well tho cuz they had all disappeared by end of season );Quote:
Originally Posted by tuco
In my shop days, I had a bench grinder with the safety shrouds removed and a homemade guide at 90 degrees to the broad side of the wheel. Perfect straight sharp steel scrapers in seconds. It was amazing.
Like this, but with the wheel exposed and a scraper guide to use the side of the wheel. I’m gonna make myself one of these again I think.
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I use a handheld 4" angle grinder and eyeball it. Works well enough.
I was thinking that maybe I was under thinking this problem. Though I couldn't see spending $60 on a sharpener I started sketching out simple solutions in mind. But when I was out by work bench this came out as a solution with about 10 seconds effort. Works fine. File is an old rasp on the less aggressive side a hand me down from wife's horse stuff.
I have the same one. You have to keep blowing out the chips otherwise it will overheat. It works well but is a pain on the ass to keep clean. It is way faster than using my Bridgeport tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utagonian
I still have a multi edger and a panzar file for it. Set edger to 0 and off you go.
A panzer every once in awhile and one of these more often.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....SR474,450_.jpg
What am I looking at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
https://www.amazon.com/Corona-Sharpe.../dp/B000BPASBK
Gives a nice sharp plastic edge on the scraper with a pass every few waxings. It eventually rounds the scraper so a couple passes on a panzer squares the scraper back up.