enough years without purpose built equipment at this location.
salomon mtn lab helmet
pret cynic AT
KT2 Route (supposed to suck)
prolly some climbinghelmets
halp
i ski a smith vantage and its nice
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enough years without purpose built equipment at this location.
salomon mtn lab helmet
pret cynic AT
KT2 Route (supposed to suck)
prolly some climbinghelmets
halp
i ski a smith vantage and its nice
I use a Petzl Meteor (second gen) climbing helmet that is probably 10y old. The new 4th Gen Meteor helmet is approved for climbing and ski touring, that'll be my next helmet when I can find a used one for $35. On spring touring days, I put it on at the car and take it off at the car at the end of the day, and never think about it otherwise.
I have a movement 3tec alpi. It’s super light and pretty comfortable. The rear head strap is pretty fragile, however, and broke from talking it in/out of my helmet strap. The replacement seems beefier and haven’t had any issues for more than a season.
I've got the salomon mtn lab helmet. Love it. Super light for the ups when attaching to a pack. I feel pretty comfortable in its safety on the downs. Fit's pretty well. I haven't worn it ascending yet but I believe it would breath well with the ear flaps removed.It's my travel helmet, fits in a backpack under an airplane seat. I use it inbounds on travel all the time with no problems.
I too have the Solly Mtn lab. The wool war flaps are awesome as is the light weight. I’ve skinned up in it and the liner makes a nice sweatband that doesn’t stink and can be removed to wash. Fits well inside a pack too. Try to find the summer liner as well for warm touring days.Quote:
Originally Posted by davjr96
Certified for ski and climb is that’s important to you.
Another vote for the MTN Lab, especially if you have a good fit in the Vantage (I do) - they are quite similar in shape though the sizing is a bit different. Have not tried the Cynic AT, but the regular Cynic X didn't work for me (though my wife loves it).
Mtn lab good.
I’ve been on this hunt as well, and had fit issues with the mtn lab and Sweet Ascender, both way too wide for the length. They were touching the front and back of my head with 1-1.5 cm of empty space on the sides. A movement alpi 3tech should arrive this week, will report back.
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I ski the Vantage in-bounds and the MTN Lab touring, which I find comparably comfortable. It’s ventilated enough that I don’t take it off (except on warm Spring days) and in colder conditions I manage my temperature by adding and removing the thin hood from my base layer.
Not exactly: Petzl paid a testing agency to run some tests according to the official protocol, but exactly what standards the helmet did (or did not) pass are entirely unknown to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by skis_the_trees
Perhaps (or perhaps not) it passed everything except for the ski pole penetration. And perhaps (or perhaps not) most bike-style climbing helmets would pass just as well as the Meteor.
But in the absence of any information, nobody (except at Petzl and the testing agency) has any idea if the Meteor is any better suited for skiing that numerous other helmets that certified only for climbing/mountaineering.
(And yes, the promotional material from Petzl is very misleading in this regard.)
This is now available:
https://skimo.co/grivel-duetto-helmet
Essentially a take on the original Petzl Sirocco, but all angular instead of crystal dome style, and somehow beefed up a bit so it passed both ski & climb, while still weighing far less than any other dual-cert helmet.
Helpful comparison chart here (mixing in climb-only helmet and dual-cert):
https://skimo.co/compare-helmets
Informative video here for the new dual-cert Grivel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUs0Wor_nrU
I've been rocking the MTN lab for a few season and love it. Saved me from a potential helicopter ride from some gnarly rockfall on Shasta.
Have you considered something a little less traditional?
https://i.imgur.com/eTKK522.jpg
https://www.amazon.ca/Star-Wars-Impe.../dp/B01BQ9S96A
... Could come in handy on the skin track.
She's low tide around here, I ran into a piece of log, fell and hit my head on another log
A helmet is always a good idea kids !
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Whatever happened to that helmet that looked like you had a pile of pink poop on your head?
Orange poop.Quote:
Originally Posted by wooley12
That version is still available cheap on closeout, but the newer version is more ... refined?--
https://skimo.co/petzl-sirocco-helmet
I think the First Order version has better peripheral vision?Quote:
Originally Posted by puregravity
If you're looking for a race helmet, I can't really help you. Don't have any experience with those, but they do look like they'd function as an effective form of birth control.
I'll echo everyone else's recommendation of the MTN Lab though, I've been using it for the last few years and absolutely love it for touring. I actually pulled the liner out, and just ski it with a mesh hat underneath, because I have a weird thing about ear flaps. I'll buy another one once I hit my head wearing this one. Big fan.
thanks gang, MTN Lab seems solid. I ordered it and a pret cynic AT off amazong for in the house fidding. after that, i'll give the storm trooper helmet a shot
edit: ill test the race helmet on top of the storm trooper helmet and see if that'll do the trick
I test drove the Movement Alpi today, much better shape for me and quite light. Seems like a winner for my cranium.
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Here's my Duetto review:
https://skimo.co/grivel-duetto-helmet#tab-review
Not for racing...
I use the Smith Maze with earflaps stripped. You can buy it as the Maze Bike. It's only like 10oz. It's been the lightweight king for 10 years.
It's not climbing certified, but I use a bike for touring access so it's nice to have a real helmet. I have worn it in mountaineering scenerios, as I'm sure it'll take a hit better than my head.
No real vents, but I don't even take it off while touring and it's not hot, I just adjust the layers under the helmet accordingly. No vents is nice when it's snowing.
The Duetto seems great but I'm coming around to hard shell for a bit of real-life durability. Can imagine trashing the Duetto or Sirocco in the trunk of the car, let alone in BC usage. Very cool helmet with impressive weight. Can see why people would go that route.
Mammut Wall Rider (I have the non-MIPS). Primarily for spring touring. Certified for climbing. It's ridiculously light - feels like a baseball hat - and super ventilated...which means I will wear it a lot, including on the ascent. Which is good for the safetyzzz.
I wear my normal ski area helmet if I need a cold-weather helmet when touring. Poc.
Buy what fits!
Just picked up the Movement 3tech Alpi, agree with others that it fits pretty well for long/narrow heads. Giro helmets tend to fit me great (bike and ski) but I swim side-to-side in a Vantage or any other Smith I've tried. The Movement is still a little wide for me but way better than the MTN Lab. I'll glue a few pads on the sides and it should be fine. Venting and weight seem good unless you're looking for uber-light like Jonathan. The winter liner (with ear flaps) is a little funky and I had trouble getting it to fit well but I don't really need it - I'll just wear a buff underneath if it's cold (and/or throw my puffy hood over the helmet for the down).
Has anybody used the Scott Couloir Mountain or Atomic Count XTD? Both look like appealing dual-certified options, and cheaper than the Mtn Lab
Also curious if anybody has experience/opinions on the Mammut Crag Sender. Not certified for skiing, but it has MIPS and looks like better coverage than most climbing lids
Check out the Salewa Vert. It is my warm weather resort helmet and what I use for touring. It is light with good ventilation. Ear pads snap in and out super easy. Similar look to the Salomon also mentioned in other post. Even has some headlamp strap clip things that you can remove.
Looks great, know of anywhere I can get it in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Pabst
I don't get why a company like Atomic basically makes a helmet no more vented than their other inbounds helmets and call it "for touring" by adding a headlamp clips.
Also last season my MTN Lab turned an impact with a tree from potentially fatal to just a gnarly concussion.
Its got a lighter liner that is easily removable at leastQuote:
Originally Posted by NorCalNomad
Hah..that's interesting. Did a google search and the only hits were Euro. I don't remember where I got it from, but it was someplace in the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Trekinn happily ships to the US but wait time might be long enough that your noggin won't be protected til the 21/22 season...Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
i like my petzls, meteor and sirrocco, but you do look like a huge dork. they're mostly reserved for actual ski mountaineering objectives. i'll lug my inbounds poc if I really think I'll need it, but way more often than not I find myself skiing in a ballcap/beanie.
have heard nothing but good things about the MTN Lab. really light for a fully-certed alpine skiing helmet.
Has anyone tried the Kong Kosmos helmet? Kinda ugly but I'm intrigued by the beefy headlamp attachment system
I've tried a few options in the past weeks and still empty handed. I have a big square head with a wide forehead, and many helmets pinch my temples uncomfortably even in the largest size. Still very interested in recommendations!
Scott Couloir - well built but doesn't fit, too oval-ish
Salewa Vert - actually fit pretty well but headlamp clips are not robust enough for my beefy headlamp (I ski at night a lot). It also felt overpriced for how heavy it was. If I can't find anything else I'll probably end up with this
Atomic Count XTD - it is ridiculous that Atomic markets this as a touring helmet. Its actually a pretty nice helmet... for inbounds riding but its too heavy and doesn't have any venting
Petzl Sirocco - pinches my temples in L size
BD Vector - pinches my temples in L size
Not to hijack this thread, but...
I've lately taken to wearing my mountain biking helmet on quick 1-3 lap morning skins at the resort. It is lighter and cooler (less warm) than my ski helmet, which I bought for lift-served skiing. My assumption is that if the bike helmet is burly enough to protect my head in an MTB crash (in the woods), then it should work okay for on-piste spills on skis.
Am I missing something? Is this an unsmart thing to do?
Probably fine with an "enduro" style helmet with good coverage of the back of the head. I'd be a little more worried about a roadie/XC style helmet where there's no coverage below the ears - less protection against a backwards fall. Still better than a hat though.Quote:
Originally Posted by dangur
There are some helmets (e.g. Movement 3tech) certified for biking as well as skiing and climbing.
So my first generation Petzl Meteor is long in the tooth and I was pondering a replacement. I'm growing more conservative with gear choices so helmets like the Salomon, Scott Couloir, Movement 3Tech and such have floated to the top of my list.
These helmets tend to hit around 400g. I realized I've never weighed my inbounds helmet (a Smith from a couple of years ago) and was surprised to see that it's 505g.
Well, for 100 g difference, I'm good. The darn thing might be too hot in the Spring however, which is likely the earliest I'll be getting out this year, but from a weight perspective, I'm OK with keeping another $150 in my wallet ;-)
One thing is clear - that when the time comes to replace my Smith, it will be something in the Mtn. Lab/Scott Couloir/Mvmt 3Tech class of helmet.
... Thom
I have a Pret cynic AT i bought off the op. Only 10-12 days so far but its comfy. Boa type closure on the back and padding and placement are great. Ok venting but it could possibly have bigger or more vents. Its off for any substantial climbs though.My medium is 355g without the earflapsQuote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
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