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Kye posted this image in his stories on Instagram a while back.
Looks like a Kingpin heelpiece + weird shaped new toe piece.
On the table: Jester 18 Pro, Alpinist and a skiboot with tech inserts.
The white part looks like a lever to me. Marker needs a safety release in the toes to compete with the Shift.
Anybody with more info? Maybe even pictures.
Lets help Marker after this well set up marketing image and start up the hype train..
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That's not a Kingpin heel, it's a Jester/Griffon heel. New toe is interesting though. Why do you want to help Marker? If you're connected to them you should say so.
Great, still with the Jester heel. Because every binding should need a rubber mallet to set the heel all the way to the worm screw track.
Yeah, that's what everyone needs, a binding to compete with shift, that breaks down immediately.
I wonder how long it will take marker to overcome the bad experience with the kingpin.
I still remember all the pre releases if 30 years ago.
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Jesus I am still leery of the alpinist despite it looking good on paper. Something with even more moving parts is just bad news...
Looks like a fucking monstrosity anyway. Nuke the thread!
Really feel for the pros who ski on Marker and will be required to beta test this shit.
Aww -- who am I kidding?
The public will beta test this shit for Marker.
My guess is no progress was made during that photo session..."uh, should we combine them?" Hahaha
Ski jesters and jester pros on some skis and never had a problem with them, save for a couple extra seconds stepping in time to time.
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Marker is totally capable of making a heel that doesn't require a ton of forward pressure and is a snap to step in to. The TCX 12 is super easy to get in to. For that matter, my 20 DIN Marker Comp bindings are super easy to step in to.
Intriguing
Ha, sorry, I typed to quickly, but yes I meant Jester heelpiece. I do not want to help Marker nor am I connected to them, sorry... I was just suprised this was not on TGR yet. What happened to the Gear rumors ****/**** enthousiasm??Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyderjon
Sorry dude, I don't live inside these forums + different timezone..Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
A bit, yes. I never understood why there was no toe piece upgrade after two years of the Kingpin. I know they tried to get a safety release in the toe piece but could not get it right and got the Kingpin on the market without. But why not keep developing and get an upgrade out after 2 or 3 years? Give the people what they want. Now the Shift destroyed the Kingpin sales big time, at least here in Europe. That plus the recall F-up will make it really hard to get their name up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
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Originally Posted by doebedoe
Agree. The TCX and Exell race heel are one billion time better than the Jester/Griffon/Squire heel. Yes, one billion times better.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
I dont ride marker bindings but see a lot if FWT riders on them in competition. Ive always wondered why guys and gals ride them at the highest level of skiing when it seems the majority of people on this forum say they are not capable?
Regardless, hope they make a legit competitor to the shift.
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Most of them are paid to use Marker products.Quote:
Originally Posted by trex_9
Most folks on here would use them too if they were paid $1000 a year.
Because they couldn't get Pivots.Quote:
Originally Posted by trex_9
Most folks on TGR would use them if they got 2-3 free pairs a year, or if their ski sponsor had a relationship with Marker and they came with the skis . . . which I bet is the case with a lot of the FWT people. I know a few FWT competitors and not many of them get actual money from a binding company.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
this made me laugh
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Lets help Marker after this well set up marketing image and start up the hype train..
Funny how many "sponsored" athletes on ski companies affiliated with Marker have skied Pivots in the past, I'd have to look at current athletes to see what the current situation is.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
Markus Eder and George Rodney (Völkl) and Leo Slemmet (Blizzard) use Markers. Don't know if anyone on the FWT is on K2. When we mounted Berkeley Patterson's Rustler 11's last year, he brought in a 2-year old pair of STH2 16's.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
We better crank these down you Marker out we don’t winQuote:
Originally Posted by Storm Hood
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Those teeth ... almost as scary as Nancy Kerigan's.Quote:
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... Thom
Grifen Moller?Quote:
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Winner winner chicken dinnerQuote:
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More info in 17 days says their website.
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Saw this too.
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Yup. My first thought when I saw that photo was that Sam Smoothy is an even badder ass than I thought. What a set of cojones to ski Marker.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
... Thom
Volkl + Blizzard = Marker.
Otherwise, they would probably be on Pivots
I looked at that new marker M-werks binding and there did not seem to be a Crampon mount ?
It's a separate pressed metal part that goes between the ski and the toe base plate. You can see the prongs sticking out of the back of the toe here:Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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they must have left it off the sales demo binding
"Marker. It's time for the reset."
Curious. Is this the same reset like after you pre-release or Marker Out (tm)?
I was just thinking about what it would take for me to buy a pair of whatever they are about to launch... Only bad injury I've ever had was a class Marker Out situation. It would take a lot for me to get another set of Markers.
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No way, its actually advertising that you’ll have to re set the touring pins after they come out of the toe piece.Quote:
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Or you have to re set your quiver of skis when whatever one this binding gets put on is decommissioned for months while waiting for a recalled part.
Looks weighty, wonder how much more it will weigh than the shifts. That video seems to imply that one of their athletes skied it on the FWT. Who ever that was must have elephant sized balls to ski a marker developmental product in a comp.
I’ll give them a shot if I can come up with a pair for an acceptable price. My Kingpins have been good to me, and I didn’t have issues with my Dukes. I’m on the same pair of Kingpins I bought when they first came out, with no issues to pins, wings, or heel pieces. Plus, for all the times I crashed or walked out of my Shifts, no way this new Marker version can be worse. It honestly will come down to price point though. I’m pretty darn happy with my CAST 1.0, and if I drop cash on a binding it will be to upgrade to CAST 2.0. It’s really really nice to ski down hill in a real binding when the conditions are questionable. And, with CAST I get to support friends, not some CEO somewhere who sucks, but a bunch of good guys.
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It'll probably be $600 like the Shift. No reason for them to go anywhere lower than that given that Atomic/Salomon are the price setters and only other players in the market. The majority of skiers have no idea what CAST is, and all in for bindings and the system, it's effectively the same price, if not slightly more.
Marker is doing some great things. Their is pretty much zero reason now to ever ski a frame binding again.
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Can’t think of a reason for day wreckers either.Quote:
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