Caught the first episode of this five part HBO mini series. I'm hooked. There's a podcast accompanying it that I haven't listened to yet.
Great art direction and sets. Really pulls off that late stage Soviet dingy look.
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Caught the first episode of this five part HBO mini series. I'm hooked. There's a podcast accompanying it that I haven't listened to yet.
Great art direction and sets. Really pulls off that late stage Soviet dingy look.
Link to podcast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
https://castbox.fm/vb/151283614
NPR podcast.
I’m pissed I can’t binge all the episodes of the show, right now.
Really good first episode. Jared Harris is a great fucking actor.
The podcast is very much worth a listen after watching.
Fun factoid: it was believed by many that vodka was a cleansing agent after radiation exposure.
The creator, Craig Mazin, liked this book a lot, so I put it on my Kindle.
Voices from Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster https://www.amazon.com/dp/0312425848..._JWi1CbF9C084W
I'm going to know a shitload about Chernobyl by summer.
Like a local?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Forgot this show had started. Looking forward to watching. Will check the podcast too.
I enjoyed the show, will continue to watch...
Wikipedia says 28 people died. Way smaller death tole than I thought. I think we saw half that in episode one. Wikipedia says experts are expecting 4000 cancer deaths in the future... crazy how long the fuse is on the exposure.
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The history is so fucked up and obscured, it seems that the 28 number is similar to Trump's number for Puerto Rican hurricaine deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
Worth checking out is one of Martin Cruz Smith's novels, Wolves Eat Dogs. It's set in Chernobyl after the event, among the people who have stayed. There's a murder mystery to add interest, but like most of his works, it's about events and their aftermath. A more recent book deals with exhuming mass graves from the Stalin era.
X2. Watched first episode and then next night went to watch more...fuck. Have become used to binge watching, and it helps me remember details which can be an issue at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Great series.
watched the first episode last night, off to a great start.
So far so good.. also disappointed that I couldnt watch the whole series. Come on HBO!
I like waiting. Gives me something to look forward to on random nights I have nothing going on. I wouldve been done with the series on tuesday if not. Builds suspense.
Oh, man, last night. I wonder how accurate that was - the three workers who volunteered to go wading. I have to wonder if this had happened in the US or Western Europe if anyone would have volunteered. I suspect not.
Last night was great, some really good acting in this show. Jared Harris is amazing.
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Originally Posted by buttahflake
NTTIAWWTQuote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
According to the podcast, it was real. More sacrifices to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
The new female scientist is a fictional character. She represents a bunch of experts called in, not all of which agreed.
I learned about that apocalyptic explosion that could have destroyed Europe and almost happened for the first time. Stunning.
Craig Mazin went from Hangover 2 & 3 to this. Redemption.
The mega-catastrophe of the liquid core contacting the contained water below was sobering, to put it mildly. Ashamed to admit I didn't really pay too much attention at the time.
Just watched Ep2. Looking for more into the story of the guys that really kept this from being so much worse than it was. And can you imagine the world today the way they were describing if those water tanks blew? 50M+ dead IIRC. It is amazing this didn't end up so much worse than it did and it still was really bad.
Don't know anything about the show but my final paper of an engineering ethics class I was forced to take in undergrad was on it
Huge eye opener on how dumb, conceited and afraid humans are and how we will continue to do dumb stuff....smh
great 1st episode, i was hooked within 2 minutes. quality show evident. they sure have weird accents tho.
interesting factoid - after it happened, maps of the radiation spreading magically stopped at the french border. they found out years later that the french government suppressed information in order to protect the reputation of their nuclear industry.
safety protocols? we don't need no stinkin safety protocols in mother russia!Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
I never heard about that possibility either, until now. I’ve never been one to embrace conspiracy theories, but you’ve got to wonder why that wasn’t a major part of the story at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
It was 1986, Cold War was still happening, the amount of info coming out of the Soviets was minuscule. It makes perfect sense that we knew nothing about how bad it was at the time.
Did I tell y’all how much I like Jared Harris?
Yeah, that's pretty much a major theme of this story. Nobody knew anything.
Crazy ass factoid. Chenobyl was home to four nukes, and the other three continued operating during all this. The last one was shut down in 2000. It was the primary source of power for Minsk, a city of 5 million.
Crazy shit. I was alive, but not nearly old enough to remember when it happened.
I really liked the way they did the explosion in the beginning.
The Wikipedia article is ok at explaining what actually happened and what the long term effects may have been outside the exclusion zone. Not great, but ok.
Crazy how they kept it running till 2,000. Did they just bus the workers through the zone everyday?
It looks like they dramatized the order of some events and made a few composite characters for simplicity's sake, but seems true for the most part. I don't know how dire the lava/steam/China Syndrome situation was, but there is lava in there and they did lose a helicopter at some point due to rotors vs crane. Oh and I guess there really are reports of tasting metal and a blue beam going up into the sky. Made me think of the 9/11 memorial.
Here's a good site with pictures from before and after the accident. Also has some video of the helicopter crashing, as well as a lot of good history.
https://imgur.com/a/TwY6q
Thanks. Amazing.. really shows how well the series is made, it captures that style/period perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawless
Thanks. Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawless
Great link. I saw this about a yt of a Ukrainian series about it w/ subtitles. Might make a good watch to fill in though spoilers I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawless
The core was exposed.
Please note, this is NOT a photograph from the accident. It's a still from a Ukrainian 4-episode TV series (and also edited into a movie) from 2013 called Inseparable. You can read more about it here: http://film.ua/en/distribution/projects/241 and here: http://film.ua/en/news/822 The entire film can be watched (with English subtitles) on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT7XyBs9yNI
Apparently, all 3 of those volunteers survived and lived well into old age.Quote:
Originally Posted by billyk
"Research by Andrew Leatherbarrow, author of the 2016 book Chernobyl 01:23:40 determined that the frequently recounted story [of the 3 perishing] is a gross exaggeration. Alexei Ananenko continues to work in the nuclear energy industry, and rebuffs the growth of the Chernobyl media sensationalism surrounding him. While Valeri Bezpalov was found to still be alive by Leatherbarrow, the 65-year-old Baranov had lived until 2005 and had died of heart failure."
https://www.businessinsider.com/cher...mission-2016-4
Great info, thanks. That imigur link was good, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamond Joe
They had protective gear. Most of the radiation deaths occurred to people exposed without any gear. Pretty much everyone who looked into the core died. That engineer, Sitnikov, who was sent onto the roof to inspect the damage died from just the few seconds he peered over the edge. For me, that was the most chilling scene. That was the real dragonfire shooting up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamond Joe
What's protective? Maybe just lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
Agreed. There's really no way to know for sure but you can bet it was a higher number than that, at least within the first few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
The 28 number was just the people who were present on the site on the day of the accident, including first responders. Read that on one of those links.
They didn’t count shortened life spans from people who developed cancer from radiation fallout down wind of the site. Or even workers who were exposed during the cleanup.
First two episodes are now available On Demand, if anyone needs to catch up or rewatch.
I’m hooked, man is this show both bleak and entertaining. Lots of modern political references worked in too, which is interesting.