Anyone been out on the 99ti? Haven't been excited about anything from K2 for a number of years but these look good, with the exception of the hybrid construction. Sure wish they were full sidewall.
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Anyone been out on the 99ti? Haven't been excited about anything from K2 for a number of years but these look good, with the exception of the hybrid construction. Sure wish they were full sidewall.
I have about 10 days on them. They are the real deal. Review here.
already available for purchase in europe via sport-conrad
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Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk
Buy in the States too.
https://www.evo.com/skis/k2-mindbender-99ti
Should come in 193 in the fall 186 is the longest available until then i believe
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Same price $699.99 in Canadian dollars at Monod Sports and $649.99 for the 90ti. Skiing in Banff right now and they had them on the floor and have sold some already. “Everyone eager for the 108ti around here” the salesperson said. The 90ti and 99ti had a nice playful flex and weight to them. Bet they are a fun ski.
Anyone have time on the 193cm MB 108Ti ?
193 was just released last month so most ppl have only skied that ski in 186, howeverQuote:
Originally Posted by kicool
Ppl involved in R&D or time on protons would have some input. on them. As soon as lifts spin Ill let you know what I think
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Thanks for the info! Looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
I'm a little biased but I'll let you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by kicool
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I'm looking forward to seeing how stable the 191 99ti and 193 108ti are.
skied on the prototype 99ti most of last season,it was a 184,there wasn't any type of snow condition,where i wish i was on something differant,front eastcoast concrete,to 24 inches of fluff and everything in between.it was stable at my top speeds which i would venture to say 45 to 50mph.my son skied the 108 proto,i think it was 186,he is based in Tahoe,he really liked the 108,for him it was stable at speeds of at least 60mph,he competed on it in several of the FWQ's,this season he'll have a pair of the MB 116's in 193's for the deeper days.even many of my long time dynastar freinds really liked the MB's,but they will never make the swicth.the MB's are much more of a ski than the pinnacles,very crisp yet playful
My $.02 from a few runs on the 184 99 Ti was that the ski was almost as much work in bumps or trees as a dedicated front side ski, but didn’t carve quite as well. For me personally, that balance of trade offs didn’t make sense because I don’t care much how my ~100 mm skis do in powder.
Can see how it would make sense for some folks - very much agree with Blister’s review of the 99 Ti.
Got out on Saturday. That ski fucking rips. Solid, stable, predictable at speed, but yet really easy to ski through tight lines or short turns through moguls.Quote:
Originally Posted by kicool
I didn't find the speed limit. I have several pairs of skis but I could totally see it being a one ski quiver
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The 108 is the only ski in awhile that would get me to check out a demo day. Marketing tricksters are doing their job here.
I demo'd the 108s last spring and liked them quite a bit. They didn't have the 193s in the demo fleet unfortunately. Glad to hear you're digging em SVS.
The 108 shreds. I'm not a marketing trickster. I skied it on melt/freeze groomers and was shocked at the edge hold and ability to release the tail. The tip felt slightly out of its element and would likely be dialed for softer snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
The Mantra 102 was significantly cheaper for me. That's it. Well, that and I have a deep snow ski.
I’ve been the 108 since last February. Use it as my everyday ski at Jay and Stowe. Mounted +1 and it shreds but is also easy in the trees.
I really liked the 99 as well but the 108 is just a little “looser” for off piste and carves quite well for its size.
I've been happy with the 99ti as a low tide ski. I usually don't like directional skis but it rips and isn't very demanding.
Here is my synopsis on the K2 Mindbender 99ti so far, you should try them.
I have the 184cm model. Shortest ski I’ve owned since I retired from pro skiing. Skinniest ski I’ve owned since then as well.
Skied a few runs yesterday at Snowbird around noon. Legs were tired from a 4 hour snowmobile ride the day before. Conditions ranged from soft chop to rock hard crud, and variable groomers.
It skis longer than 184cm, likely because it’s closer to 186cm long and has very little tail rocker. Also the mount point is -11cm from true center which is much further back than anything I’ve skied in a long time.
My everyday quiver has been ON3P Jeffrey 108 186 and Moment Bibby Pro 190
Groomers: the ski does a good job at smoothing our variable terrain. I never found its speed limit, which was scary because with no tail rocker it’s pretty hard to scrub speed when you need to. With fresh legs the ski was totally fine. I had to stay over the front of it, but as long as I did, the tail felt easy to slide and the ski didn’t feel like that much work. But as I got more tired, I was left wishing for a ski with more rocker and a more forward mount point. Because it’s so heavy and its mount point is so far it leaves you with a lot of heavy ski in front of you. I don’t think I’ve EVER truly carved on rails down the front of the steepest part of Regultor before.
Soft Chop: skis like it’s fatter than it is. Skied top to bottom great Scott in variable and soft wind chop at top, firm chop in middle, and soft chop at bottom. Took 2-3 fewer turns from top to bottom than I normally do (which means 5-6 turns instead of 7-9 turns) and it always felt composed enough in the tip to keep pushing, as long as you realized you’d never be able to release the tail to dump speed super quickly without putting all your weight forward.
Hard Chop: I like to bounce around through and slash on top of hard chop to control my speed - and this ski just isn’t slashy. That said, I didn’t really ski hard chop slower than normal, just had to do so with more of a traditional style.
Summary: if you ski traditional with good form and have enough leg strength to really ski the front of the ski, then you’ll have a really fun day. I liked them, but may have to adjust my skiing style when I use them, which might not be a bad thing?
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Here is my synopsis on the K2 Mindbender 99ti so far, you should try them.
I have the 184cm model. Shortest ski I’ve owned since I retired from pro skiing. Skinniest ski I’ve owned since then as well.
Skied a few runs yesterday at Snowbird around noon. Legs were tired from a 4 hour snowmobile ride the day before. Conditions ranged from soft chop to rock hard crud, and variable groomers.
It skis longer than 184cm, likely because it’s closer to 186cm long and has very little tail rocker. Also the mount point is -11cm from true center which is much further back than anything I’ve skied in a long time.
My everyday quiver has been ON3P Jeffrey 108 186 and Moment Bibby Pro 190
Groomers: the ski does a good job at smoothing our variable terrain. I never found its speed limit, which was scary because with no tail rocker it’s pretty hard to scrub speed when you need to. With fresh legs the ski was totally fine. I had to stay over the front of it, but as long as I did, the tail felt easy to slide and the ski didn’t feel like that much work. But as I got more tired, I was left wishing for a ski with more rocker and a more forward mount point. Because it’s so heavy and its mount point is so far it leaves you with a lot of heavy ski in front of you. I don’t think I’ve EVER truly carved on rails down the front of the steepest part of Regultor before.
Soft Chop: skis like it’s fatter than it is. Skied top to bottom great Scott in variable and soft wind chop at top, firm chop in middle, and soft chop at bottom. Took 2-3 fewer turns from top to bottom than I normally do (which means 5-6 turns instead of 7-9 turns) and it always felt composed enough in the tip to keep pushing, as long as you realized you’d never be able to release the tail to dump speed super quickly without putting all your weight forward.
Hard Chop: I like to bounce around through and slash on top of hard chop to control my speed - and this ski just isn’t slashy. That said, I didn’t really ski hard chop slower than normal, just had to do so with more of a traditional style.
Summary: if you ski traditional with good form and have enough leg strength to really ski the front of the ski, then you’ll have a really fun day. I liked them, but may have to adjust my skiing style when I use them, which might not be a bad thing?
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Any updates from MB 108 Ti owners? Looking at adding a 186. Like the feel of a heavier ski with 20-m+ radius and soft snow manner for the PNW.
The 186 MB108 has been the most impressive ski I have owned since I bought spatulas 15+yrs ago. They are not for everyone I’m sure but they are fun.
I'm low tiding/daily driving the MB99Ti in Whistler Blackcomb atm, and yes, these things rip. Haven't found their top end. Can handle icy groomers and moguls, but also destroy soft chop. I find them a pretty dialed balance of traditional ski with a bit of playfulness. They should sell a metric fuckton of these skis.
That’s a crazy endorsement. Love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by L8APX
Do it they live up to the hype... They have a lot of energy, fun, playful and stable. I bought a back up pair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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This. I really didn’t think I’d like them but their an awesome low tide ski. I generally don’t like very directional skis but get along well with these. No speed limit so far but can shut them down easily. Surprisingly I like them better than the 108.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecazdog
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I bought a pair from Corbett’s and will be skiing them next weekend. Will share impressions once skied.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher
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Nice! ^^^
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Solidly interested. Particularly with your enforcer experience as I’m looking for something a touch different to my 110’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
I’m skiing the 99ti - taking it out more of the time than I thought I would.
I’ll sum up my other day on them as follows:
1. Hiked baldy at Snowbird. Skied little chute to dog leg. Firm snow in little chute, softer in dog leg. untracked 4” under dog leg. It skied extremely well throughout.
2. Skied a couple of groomer laps at Alta before skiing westward ho, which was also untracked 4”.
3. Skied a wind buffed silver fox fairly fast.
4 . Took 4 laps on regulator. Thought I was skiing 65ish mph, ended up carving a turn at the bottom at 81mph - felt like they were glued to the snow. Tons of rebound. They WANT you to drive them hard and they’ll reward you for it, but won’t punish you if you don’t.
5 finished my day with a run down jaws, hit the air into it and took a few less turns down the CHOPPY face than I normally do on a much fatter ski.
It is NOT my ski of choice when I know all I’ll be doing is crud busting all day. I prefer something a little looser and a little fatter, and a little more rockered. Not that this ski won’t blast through crud, but it will take more effort.
It is NOT my ski of choice when I know all I’ll be doing is powder/soft chop. Ski floats fine, but not as well as a fat ski (duh)
It IS my ski of choice when I’ll ski a variety of conditions from crud to chutes to pow to groomers all day
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Interesting stuff here. Has anyone skied both the MB99 and Mantra 102?
I got the 108s in 193. Came quicker from Outdoor XL in the Netherlands than a typical order from US. Hope to ski them tomorrow.
I only skied the MB99 for a few runs before switching to the MB108 and realizing it did everything the 99 could do (minus ice, which I don't ski.) But the M102 is better for me as a supplement to my pow ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongle
K2 did make a product shift last year that is to be noted, that's for sure. I like the M102 better, though, as it's more damp and just as easy-going.
Well the turn radius of the 99 vs 108 is significant. I’m guessing actual carved turn differ substantially. I’m about to buy the 99. If I like it I’ll be tempted by the 116.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Ordering the 99 from there now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevada29er
I’ve been going to the resorts early in the morning before work solely to ski groomers for an hour BECAUSE of this ski
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Really happy I ordered them now. I’ll still take the mantra 102 out for a demo as well. I’ll file a report after!Quote:
Originally Posted by 123ski
I’ve tried both the Mantra 102 and MB99 Ti. For me, the MB99 felt relatively imprecise on groomers and a bit hooky. The hookiness could well have been a tune issue given other people’s beta. The Mantra 102 was stronger on edge and felt more comfortable going straight. In tighter terrain the Mantra 102 felt lighter to me and a bit easier to swing around, though the tail is a bit more locked in.
Think Blister’s view was that MB99 is generally better soft snow, Mantra 102 is generally better on hard snow. I mostly agree with that and ended up with the 102.
Which sizes did you try ?