Well not really, but Moorestown, NJ was named best place to live.
Louisville, CO made the list at #5.
http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/
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Well not really, but Moorestown, NJ was named best place to live.
Louisville, CO made the list at #5.
http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/
now that is fucking sick.
hey, my hometown is in there at #10 - Mill Valley. Great palce to live, but housng is wayyyy too $$....but beyond that, what's not to dig w/Mt Tam in your backyard and the beach right there and SF a 15 min drive away....then again, maybe i should move to NJ since it's 9 spots more desireable :wink:
Nice to see my hometown also coming in at #10. ;)
Bainbridge Island, WA as #2 is interesting.
Just looked at the top 100 list... Makes me laugh be cause the only utah towns that got on were Centerville and Ceder City. Definatley not places I would live.
Holy crap, within 15 miles of my hometown, Jenkintown, PA are:
8,304 restaurants and 842 bars... never would have thought it would be that many.
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Originally Posted by funkendrenchman
You got that right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Moorestown, NJ, is in the New-Jersery-suburbs-of-Philadelphia zone, and that means lots of congested NJ traffic and sprawl. The write up even makes it sound like a good thing that some big-box stores setup shop there last year.
Picture it this way, you can drive into any parking lot for any strip-shopping center around there -- and there are lots of them, there's no walking or biking to a downtown area -- and watch any number of SUV-driving soccer moms sitting idling, completely blocking the traffic flow, waiting for a front-row parking spot to open up, so they don't have to got off their lard asses to walk an extra 100 yards to their stores. Then when they done with their shopping, they'll just ditch the shopping cart they used in the middle of the parking lot.
It's a completely disposable consumer-driven lifestyle there.
well I guess they DO have ween.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by No User Logged On
"That's not to say growth doesn't present challenges.
On the border with Mount Laurel, a shopping center anchored by Costco and Target opened last year, increasing traffic through town. And much of Moorestown's farmland has been lost to subdivisions."
Besides traffic it seems to have, good schools, jobs, decent housing, city life nearby, good access to the beaches (of course driving there takes FOREVER on summer weekends). For the typical family I would say housing, jobs, and schools are THE most important things.
and plenty of ween.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkendrenchman
I don't get the Jersey shore. People spend huge bucks to cram on to a barrier island for a week or two and get sunburned and drunk and stand in line for crappy overpriced seafood and play fucking miniature golf and get drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkendrenchman
I'm a Jersey boy, but God, I can't stand it anytime I'm there. But, hey, there's always Texas to look down on.
What exit is that?
I grew up right next to #9 and it seems odd that they forgot to mention the huge herion and meth problem the local highschools are having.
July 12, 2005
Official Sees New Jersey on Verge of a 'Transportation Meltdown'
By DAVID W. CHEN
TRENTON, July 11 - In New Jersey, there are few activities in life as vital, maddening or culturally defining as the task of getting from one place to another.
This is a state, after all, that has the greatest number of, and the most heavily traveled, miles of highway per capita in the country. There is a joke about it - "So you're from New Jersey? What Exit?" - so ubiquitous that the New Jersey Historical Society organized an online exhibition about the New Jersey Turnpike a few years ago. And the state has provided the backdrop, as well, for an untold number of Bruce Springsteen songs about cars, roads and journeys.
But transportation experts are warning that speed limits may have to be lowered. That potholes may remain unfilled. That lanes may be closed for long periods because of delays in maintenance work. And that there may be fewer buses and trains available, which would make commuters wait longer and stand once aboard.
"Simply put, New Jersey is facing a transportation meltdown," said Thomas G. Dallessio, vice president and New Jersey director of the Regional Plan Association, the main authors of a study on the Transportation Trust Fund, the state's primary mechanism to repair roads and bridges. The report, released on Monday by a coalition of planners, transportation groups and academics, urges the state's elected officials to figure out a way to replenish the fund by next summer.
The warning comes two years after a commission appointed by former Gov. James E. McGreevey concluded that the state's transportation infrastructure was crumbling so rapidly that the state needed to more than double what it charged motorists for a gallon of gas - New Jersey now has one of the country's lowest gasoline taxes - to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for basic maintenance work.
But that prognosis has become even graver, according to the report, because starting in July 2006, the fund's entire $805 million budget would have to be used to pay off the loans that New Jersey lawmakers relied on in the 1990's to pay for transportation projects.
The political dynamics, however, may be different. Many legislators and political veterans expect that the Legislature may try to raise the gas tax above its current 14.5 cents per gallon sometime this winter, during the lame-duck session. But the two candidates for governor in November - Senator Jon S. Corzine, a Democrat, and Douglas R. Forrester, a Republican - said on Monday that they were leery of any gas tax increases, especially at a time when voters have been angry about high property tax bills.
New Jersey is also far from the only state that is grappling with the practice, pursued enthusiastically during the 1990's by politicians of all stripes, of borrowing a lot of money and having too little to pay it back. Oregon, for instance, is experimenting with a mileage tax that would assess taxes based on how long someone travels, and on what roads. And in Virginia - the only other state with a governor's race in November - transportation looms as one of the biggest issues.
"We're certainly in a new era of transportation finance, because we haven't really dealt with these issues in this country before," said Robert Puentes, a fellow at the Brookings Institution's Metropolitan Policy Program. "In the case of New Jersey and Virginia, not only have they not addressed all the concerns, they're hamstrung to address future concerns."
Yet not that long ago, New Jersey's trust fund was considered the envy, and not the bane, of transportation experts everywhere.
The fund was established in 1984 as a way to set gasoline taxes aside for road and bridge repairs, and to prevent lawmakers from siphoning the money toward nontransportation projects. Since 1990, however, the fund has depended so heavily on loans that at its current pace, its entire annual budget would not pay off that debt until 2021, said Alexis F. Perrotta, a senior policy analyst with the Regional Plan Association.
To reform the fund, the report called on the state to set up a five-person oversight committee, similar to the New York State Financial Control Board that was created in 1975 to pull New York City from the precipice of bankruptcy.
The report urges the state to stop diverting $115 million from the transportation trust fund each year to its general coffers and to stop tapping $300 million from its capital funds each year to pay for basic operating expenses.
And, in what figures to be the most politically difficult task, the report suggested that the state look aggressively for new revenue sources. These could include raising New Jersey Transit fares as well as tolls on the turnpike and the Garden State Parkway.
One suggestion that Acting Gov. Richard J. Codey floated this year was leasing sections of the state's toll roads to corporations or private donors who would maintain them. Another one, mentioned by Mr. Corzine after a news conference at the State House on Monday about the resignation of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, would be to sell off real estate near the Vince Lombardi Service Area in Bergen County.
But if these endeavors do not pan out, and the trust fund remains underfinanced, the consequences could be quite devastating.
"When New Jersey becomes a parking lot, we'll become the national laughingstock again," said Michael Aaron Rockland, a professor of American Studies at Rutgers and a co-author of the 1989 book "Looking for America on the New Jersey Turnpike." He added, "The whole thing continues to make it more absurd that we continue to be called the Garden State."
If Moorestown is #1 and Vienna, VA is #4, clearly their criteria is just a wee bit different than what I would use (not that I'm living the dream in, say, Nelson B.C. or anything).
NJ Transit just raised train fares 10-12%... still beats the hell out of driving to Manhattan every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Now, if they could only work on our non-existent road/highway signage.
That's awesome, now perhaps the Californians will all move there!! :biggrin:
New Jersey sucks, don't move here!
The ability to purchase Taylor Ham erases all sorts of evils.
I like how MN totally dominates the coldest city top 10.
Saw it here in CO recently, so now there is no reason to live in NJ ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrr
I just can't get over how off-tagret that ranking of NJ really is. No matter how you spin it, slice it, dice it, or pretty it up with glowing descriptions, it's still a consumption-oriented, consumer-driven, disposable lifestyle there.
you decide residence based on a pig's ass?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinner
Not really. You don't see me living in UT anymore do you? :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
It's the same every other place they mentionedQuote:
Originally Posted by No User Logged On
Hey, I was born in #3 and work in #5. How's that for coincidence.
I really don't see how all 10 of the least-polluted cities are east of the Mississippi. There are 4 in NJ/NY alone!
It's not that I don't want to drop some Taylor Ham in a box and send it to a guy from the internet, it just looks like these folks have it dialed in......Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrr
Pork Roll Express!!
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Originally Posted by Big E
For starters, Moorestown being a dry town, makes it one of the worst places to live on that account alone. And I sure wouldn't want to live next to anybody who would want to live in a dry town, either. Or talk to them on a street...
:fuckyou: , Moorestown losers :)
Not to worry, Aldo. When you failed to pull through, I found a nice Jersey girl who sends to me for nuttin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
mmmmmmm....taylor ham! I have acutally gotten my local deli to order me Taylor ham whenever I run low. Greatest breakfast meat ever!
Don't even bother, dude. Nobody's going to believe you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
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Originally Posted by road trip
OK, well then listen to our " state song"
It's a death trap, a suicide wrap, we gotta get out while we're young...
See?