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Yeah, this could shut them down was my first thought.
I'm not a litigious type -- but lady is paralyzed, and that off ramp looks sketchy for someone not on skis, especially without a lift slowing down. Shitty situation for all involved. Seems like maybe Silverton shouldn't be offering scenic chair rides in winter to avoid this kinda fuckery.
The people who run that place are total hacks. I'm shocked that their heads aren't on pikes at the entrance to town, everyone I met there had nothing but terrible things to say about the Brills.
Pipe down, squirt. Until you've met them you are just another out-of-town loudmouth passing some juicy small town rumors.Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
I can't imagine trying to get off that chairlift without skis or a board on.
Which is exactly why the argument that she signed a waiver may not hold up in court -- i.e. offering the service in the way they did may be deemed reckless on the ski areas behalf which waivers don't cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
Yeah that looks rickety AFQuote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
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The signed waiver may not help Silverton if they are deemed as being excessively reckless with safety (or lack thereof) measures.
That's a steep and long off ramp IIRC.... Didn't even realize Silverton had scenic rides. This could get expensive with attorney fees alone
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not much room to run to the left on that ramp
Hahahaha - pretty sure those are aspen trunks holding up the platforms. :D
File under really fucking bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinewhere
yupQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I'm not a dentist and have no idea how the legal arguments will turn out.
But it's interesting enough getting off a high speed quad in the summer with no skis on. Add in a lift that doesn't slow down... and a 30* sheet of plywood offramp... covered with snow and ice... with a big drop-off on each side... who the fuck thought that was a good idea to begin with?
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Originally Posted by simple
damn, this is still in the bucket
birch over concrete pilings - nice
eta; (quincy?) aspen is aesthetically pleasing too
Any waiver in this case would likely (as in 99999999 out of 100000000 ) not be applicable.
But it has at least 4 stumps holding it up....Quote:
Originally Posted by simple
You'd have to be pretty skilled to safely offload a chair like that without skis, like a liftie that does it all the time. Safest way is to run straight down the ramp. I hate to side with the dentists, but Silverton is f'd.
Is that a start/stop rope on the left? If she made it down the ramp, she'd have to go back up the ramp or climb a ladder that's out of the pic to get to the downhill side. Or just step over the rope. Any option would require a slowdown or stop. Liftie asleep at the wheel?
Curious what the SOP was supposed to be for scenic rides, not that Silverton will offer them anymore....
Did the ramp collapse? No. So that's not relevant. What is relevant is Silverton didn't follow the tramway board requirements of the 2002 Colorado Passenger Tram Safety Board order, which directed Silverton Mountain to maintain a large bank of snow by the side of the lift offload or railings. With this info it's likely there will be a significant payout. Insurance?
That's an emergency stop bar lower left corner. Ideally the passenger should have stayed on the chair, hit the bar with her feet and stepped of the lift when it stopped. Takes quick thinking though in an uninstructed situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinewhere
When the State of Colorado inspects and passes a lift, is it only for egress with ski/board? It seems as though they passed it 2x/yr from 2002.
The sad part: even if Silverton wins, they might go under due attorneys fees.
I feel bad for the lady, but also don’t like safety trumping freedom.
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Da fuck does this have to do with freedom?Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
Your freedoms aren't under attack cause you can't ride up a chairlift at Silverton.
The freedom to remain uncompensated for your paralysis caused by a corporation's negligence/shonky operations. Because they're a ski area.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
I think that's what he means?
I think even Scot Schmidt would agree with the lady.
I assume Silverton has insurance, which would provide a defense and indemnity. The accident and the newspaper article sound like a standard negligence claim, which would be covered.
I have no idea how much coverage a ski area typically carries.
Waiting for someone to update their logo w/ a sketchy chairlift fall...
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Or perhaps: the ski area is correct. The lady was responsible for her own injury, but fuck it, let’s sue...it couldn’t possibly be her responsibility. No one else has ever unloaded this lift without injury, so obviously it’s the ski areas fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
These suits frequently lead to more regulation which, yes, impacts your freedom. All regulations do....some are worth the trade off and others aren’t worth it at all.
But b/c someone was seriously injured, that large evil corporation that is Silverton....they should pay!!!
Silvertons best bet might just be to make her an attactive enough offer that doesn't simultaneously bankrupt them, and pray she accepts.
The suit is probably being brought by her health insurance company. And she has no choice but to go along with it. Check your policy's small print.Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
You can't possibly look at that photo of the lift and think this for a sightseer. Silverton is a rad idea run by assholes and morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
They're fucked I'm guessing.
Have you ever been?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
If not, your opinion as stated here is worth fuck-all...
^^^ Agreed. WTF
I’ve always had fun there. I’d hate to see it go. I’m sure insurance will cover it but they are barely breaking even from what I remember so that could be the proverbial straw. It would be a shame.
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Jesus fucking christ that looks bad. I bet 9 out of 10 of us would eat shit in one way or another trying to get off that thing without skis on.
I suggest we do more airmchair QBing with no facts except as stated in the article.
I'm in. How do we proceed, counselor? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
That’s why I asked my original question. I honestly don’t know what Colorado inspections look for or the requirements for passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
That unloading area doesn’t look so great...but, the article suggests that State inspectors passed the lift 2x/yr since 2002.
Should the area be responsible when area passed its safety inspection and the State approved the lift operation?
I'd pay $37 to see bunny unload it with skis on.Quote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
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Originally Posted by RootSkier
9 out of 10 Bennys would