Family falsely accused of stealing Mt. Bachelor's skis, $129K suit says
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...ccused_of.html
I wonder about the other side of the story...
Printable View
Family falsely accused of stealing Mt. Bachelor's skis, $129K suit says
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...ccused_of.html
I wonder about the other side of the story...
There go the beer prices.
How much is beer now? Is it $10 yet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by interloper
Beers are pretty cheap at my tailgate.
And $4000 for “counseling”?!
If ya don't have insurance, $4,000 is like ten appointments.
And my Durban Girl brownies are free.
There will be drinking this weekend & skiing too. Stop by party favors sky lot. Last season $8/pint? OD. Locals tip-Tumalo store $3/pint. Plentiful selection.
I’d let Bachelor employees yell at me for $129K. Shit, call me whatever you’d like.
It's only $125K if you don't get counseling.
Would I be able to sue if they called me an old perv?
Probably not, that’s just called being honest.
You can sue for humilation?? $129K??
Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
Not sure if you guys are being facetious or not, but what rental shop jockeys did to this mom and her kid is pretty fucked up. Appears to be a fairly slam dunk case of false imprisonment. Not worth $129k, IMO. But I bet it settles in the $50-75k range.
Curious what "other side of this story" there potentially could be that isn't included in the article? Kid tried to explain. Mom tried to explain. Mom got store clerk on the phone but rental shop douches refused to speak to him. Dad went to store and took photo of receipt and sent it but they still refused to be reasonable and look at it and then the deputies arrived to sort it out.
Throughout this idiotic incident, kid was being illegally held against his will and repeatedly called a thief and a liar. That's pretty fucked up and would be traumatic to many if not most kids.
So, yeah, damn straight POWDR needs to pony up and train their employees not to do illegal shit.
Yes, this is taking the complaint at face value, but I don't see any reason why not to. I'd bet this gets settled before attorney's fees get too big.
Signed,
Disgruntled multi-year POWDR employee who's familiar with their shenanigans
In my wanderings around the ski business I've learned one thing: Don't trust the corporate machine! They're not looking out for you.
Word. There are often some great people who work at ski mountains. Patrollers, some mountain manager types, etc. But often the folks who end up in middle management and even GMs are the powerhungry, brown-nosing dipshits who managed not to move on to something better.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
This happened at the tuning and repair center upstairs and not downstairs at Gravity Sports, right? I couldn't see the Gravity Sports guys/gals taking part in this tomfoolery, but have no experience with the crew upstairs.
There is always another side to the story. I have no idea but I've seen lawsuits and if you read the complaint you usually think, oh, they are right. Then you read the answer and think the same about that party. So far POWDER's side hasn't been told.
Were the skis actually stolen and the serial numbers on a database at the ski shop? The kid could have just bought stolen goods. If this was a car dealer and someone brought a car in for a tune up that had been stolen from the lot a couple months earlier don't you think they would try to get the guy busted even if he had just innocently bought it?
My dog was stolen once and when I saw a guy with him outside a nearby 7-11 a couple weeks later you can bet I wasn't very nice about the "misunderstanding".
God, I hate fucking lawyersQuote:
Originally Posted by LightRanger
Sounds like the rental dept over stepped their authority. Anyway, I'm a little to close to this so that's all I have to say.
Only until you need a tooth pulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by nest
Did you get the dog back? Dd you have to beat the guys ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by stearnsn
Cops released juvenile after proving rental skis were not stolen but bought from a established local business that Bachelor had sold to in the prior Summer. Cretins I tell ya. Most people don't like me so I'm good.
I don't know about $129k, but if the facts are correct as stated then for sure Bachelor should pay a fair penny.
I'm surprised tune/rental shop employees being paid minimum wage cared enough to hassle the kid
Maybe there's a reward, like lifties get when they catch pass "theft."Quote:
Originally Posted by skiitsbetter
I was thinking the exact same thing, but I assume middle management was involved (thus my rant against middle management). But possible incentive program like Danno mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiitsbetter
Anywho, fuck people who think illegal detention by a private corporation is OK. This is America, not some corporate-run fucking future dystopia. Y'all are the same people that defended UAL ripping that guy off the plane after he wouldn't vacate his seat when he was randomly selected--e.g. using extrajudicial force over a contract dispute.
Bootlickers.
Sounds like assholes being assholes. There are good and bad peeps all over the mountain including middle management. Most shop rats are good guys, a few are dicks, most middle management are good guys a few are dicks, most ski executives are dicks, a few are good guys. Pretty much like life everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by LightRanger
^^^ Fair. I dunno. Maybe it's because so many of my formative years were spent around ski areas, it just seemed to me there were a higher proportion of upward failers than other places.
IMO could have happened at most any place on the mountain (or most any ski area).Quote:
Originally Posted by mattig
The other side of the story--the kid was probably giving them attitude, not respectful of authority, maybe long hair, face gaiter, tall T, pants around his knees, obviously guilty of something. In other words, a normal teenager.
Bachelor's “... we apologize again that the computer system mistakenly flagged the pair of re-sold skis as stolen.” is a pretty weak apology. It was a computer's fault? Oh please... I'd like to see them back that up with facts.
Why is it that a higher percentage of executives are dicks?Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
It is generally regarded that you have to be a bulldozer to get into upper levels of business. In my younger more wild daze, I worked for a property mgmt company that had many JH glitterati on the client list- filled with Fortune 500 CEOs and Forbes 400 rat pack. Upon closer inspection their lives were filled with family and personal wreckage as they sacrificed all for $.Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuse
There were a few exceptions, but not many.
Did the kid get to go skiing?
Most resorts toss out or destroy their rental skis. They may pull bindings to re-use, but it's not a good business model to sell rental skis for nothing and flood the local market.
Okay, I completely agree the family was wronged, and should get something. BUT A HUNNERT AND TWENTY NINE GRAND? Fuck off. A free family season's pass? That sounds good, and maybe some meal vouchers in there too. They needed counseling because of this? Holy fuck, these people should just walk onto the freeway and kill themselves because they're too delicate to live. What sort of fuckin' country you guys have down there when every time anyone at all is even slightly fucked over they figure they deserve a lottery win?
The hill is completely in the wrong, yup, but the payout should match the ACTUAL "pain and suffering" involved. Having to hang out and wait for the cops isn't like you spent a year in the gulag for fuck sakes.
^^^ It’s now $766,000. What the fuck?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.bendb...chelor%3famp=1
Calm down
Here is a copy of the complaint: http://media.oregonlive.com/portland....skis.suit.pdf
It's a stretch to interpret the complaint as seeking "up to $766,000." The author of that article is quite obviously not an attorney so I'll give him a pass.
I'd want to know some facts before deciding. For ex, what if the resort refused to apologize after and offered them nothing, or maybe a free ski rental? If they asked for a free season pass and were told to fuck off? Would trying to bend over the resort at that point be ok? I'd say so. If it went down that way. :shrug: but otherwise kinda agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by johngenx
Pretty fucking stupid on the resorts part
defamation of character, emotional stress, wrongful all kinds of shit
this will be settled out of court, it will go away and
we will never know what the Plaintiff got
Compare the famous McDonald's scalding coffee case.
The myth propounded by the insurance industry:
The plaintiff was a greedy pig.
The facts: A McDonald's franchise served scalding coffee per McDonald's instructions to serve at 180-190F, which is dangerously hot. McDonald's had received numerous complaints about it but did nothing to change its policy.
The victim, who suffered third degree burns, offered to settle for $20,000 to cover her medical costs. McDonald's (and/or it's CGL insurance carrier) counteroffered with $800, which is the equivalent of saying fuck off.
The jury, after hearing the evidence and being charged with jury instructions re the law, was so pissed off at McDonald's that it is awarded $2.9 million in punitive damages.
The court reduced the verdict to $640,000
Killington paid out $750,000 to a woman who got trapped in the gondi from 3pm till 8pm. That's $150k per hour inconvenienced. And nobody called her a liar & thief in front of God and everybodyQuote:
Originally Posted by johngenx
https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...dola-for-hours
By that measure, the family is being quite reasonable...
Too late for reasonable compromises - lawyers are involved now.