Anyone have experience with this boot?
This was bootfitters number 2 choice for me. Number 1 was the Salomon QST Pro, but after looking into that it seems like there will be some issues with it.. aside from it fitting well.
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Anyone have experience with this boot?
This was bootfitters number 2 choice for me. Number 1 was the Salomon QST Pro, but after looking into that it seems like there will be some issues with it.. aside from it fitting well.
Looked @ then at the test event last spring. BSL was odd 280 290 300 310..... & I was I'll fit. It seems like a yo yo boot. I don't know that I'd want to charge on them.
I am biased, but I have also skied nearly every new boot in this category, and found that the R3 130 skis more strongly than many of them. I'm a fan of cabrio boots though, and not everybody is.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
In this instance, BSL is irrelevant to fit. I've worn plenty of shorter-fitting boots with longer BSLs.
For a commonly-known fit comparison: I'd say the R3 130 fits similar to a KR2 shell, but with a noticeably tighter instep.
Feel free to hit me with any questions on Roxa stuff.
Pulled the trigger on the R3 130. Had the Elements coming, but upgraded to the R3. Stoked, and the green looks so sick in person!Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeAl
Where can you buy these in Canada?
http://www.roxa.com/dealers/Quote:
Originally Posted by el hefe
skiuphill.ca has the Roxa touring boots in stock, they might be able to bring in a pair of R3
Any updates on this boot?
If you can read French or use google translate here are a few reviews :
http://www.skipass.com/tests/chaussu...018_22499.html
http://www.skipass.com/tests/chaussu...018_22400.html
http://www.skipass.com/tests/chaussu...018_21914.html
Roxa gave some to some skipass users in exchange for a review, most didnt like the shoe that much. Mig, to guy who gave the best note, bought some Full Tilts Ascendants this season and he says he prefers them by far.
My buddy skis these and loves em. He came from some il moros. Personally i think the flex is pretty shitty. Nothing like dalbello. It seems to just hit a wall and seem very board like. Id take my lupos or old xt 130s over these any day. I will say they are very light and have a crazy ROM. Probably more than needed honestly.
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So, you skied them?Quote:
Originally Posted by japanada
I bought a pair of the 2018 Roxa R3 130 T.I. and have put around 10 days on them with 2 smaller (2300 vertical feet) tours.
I've skied Raichle Flexons for around 20 years as my inbound boot and used some Scarpa Maestrales v2 for spring tours but they never really fit. I was never happy with the support of the Maestrales either.
People can read a more detailed review at https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...3-130-t-i-boot, but there's a few things about how the boot works that could be highlighted.
First, the fit: this boot fits myself really well and is incredibly easy to slip in and out. That should be enough innuendo. They are extremely comfortable for me out of the box (OK, more innuendo), I can wear them after skiing fully buckled. This drives a lot of my satisfaction with this boot.
Second, the downhill performance is excellent, lots of support, way more than any of my previous boots since race days. This is a 3 piece cabrio design and provides great progressive flex (more on that below). In my past attempts to try boots, I get shin bleed in all the boots I tried in the 80s and 90s (Technical, Nordica, Salomon) and I don't with these. When I tightened the settings down, they were too stiff but the simple range of adjustment let me find the sweet spot for downhill flex performance. The Church Of Flexon has gained a new abberant. I like to ski by feeling a forward balance on the balls of my feet and that has taken some getting used to with flexons so easy to get on top of the ski. These are a little different, but I've found that balance and can get on top of the ski the way I like.
Third, and I think this is what has been somewhat overlooked, the boot has really different approaches to flex and lots of flex adjustments.
This is achieved by a top buckle design and an odd little stiffness adjustment on the back in addition to the usual uphill setting lever.
Regarding the top buckle, rather than having some ratchet system or a series of notches, this boot completely relies on a large Velcro strap that loops through a single setting buckle. This works really well, both for adjusting the downhill stiffness as well as tour mode where one simply undoes the top buckle. I like the simplicity of this a lot and the forward freedom can be adjusted by either further loosening the Velcro or by unbuckling, taking the tongue out and just climbing that way.
In my few hours of uphilling, one day on firm icy crust requiring crampons and another day in softening mush, I found the forward freedom to be adequate and support excellent. Not as flexible as the Maestrales but much more secure.
The uphill setting is a lever which is kind of standard and in uphill mode it allows a little more rearward flex, but not a lot. This may change as the boot breaks in.
But the one different feature is the stiffness adjustment on the back, which has 2 settings, stiff and soft. I normally left this in the stiff setting, but on the warmer day, found that the soft setting improved both forward and rearward stride. My only nit here is that this stiffness adjustment requires an allen wrench currently which increases the transition times and fiddlyness. Relative to the Maestrale, the forward flex is almost as good, and in stiff mode the rearward flex isn't much, but in soft mode, the rearward flex for skinning is improved. Still not as good as more touring oriented boots, but acceptable to me.
Lastly, these things are ridiculously light. See the specs at blister.
Now I prefer to minimize gear; having an array of stuff to choose from to tune to a particular situation drives me nuts. So I really like these boots for a day of riding lifts and sidecountry skinning. I typically ski a 120 mm fat ski as long as I can get 1/4 inch edge penetration. I'm 6', 180 lbs, ex racer and 70s freestyle weenie with a penchant for soft snow, cool red wine and sativa.
In sum, I'm really satisfied with these boots for the fit and function. The design for flexibility from a stiff inbounds boot to a decent touring boot is key in my satisfaction. Props to the design team and I hope that my one functional nit regarding the allen wrench requirement can be fixed with a mechanism that can be set without a tool easily at transition time.
pikchure: The top black button is the stay of the Velcro strap. The smaller silver button below that is the stiff/soft toggle setting and then the uphill lever below that. Also see the simple top buckle with the massive Velcro strap looping through.
We have had a couple of our guys out in a pair and so far the consensus is the boot fits big and that you will have to size down, we have a pair of 26.5's in our test fleet and both testers who wear a 26.5, had a ton of room. Another tester who usually skies a 27.5, found the 26.5 workable. So it is a boot to go by interior volume and ignore the BSL. https://www.pugski.com/threads/long-...t-i-i-r.15177/
I went from a 310 bsl raichle flexon to a 27.5 Roxa R3 T1.
As written, I'm super happy with the fit and function. Works great in both old dynafit binders as well as marker F12s.
It may not be a One Size Fits All, but due to an impressive spectrum of Functionality, it's an Overnite Sensation.
I only tried this boot on briefly, but I think the impression of big comes from the high roof over the instep, rather than a lot of extra length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexon Phil
My initial impression is that this is THE boot for high insteps.
Others thought would be welcome, boot is on my shortlist.
28.5 used 3-4 days, $200 plus ship
After 30 days of use, I'm super happy with the Roxa rx130.
Really light, comfortable for those of us with high insteps, great stiffness and support with a uniquely broad spectrum of innovative adjustments.
I've been pounding on them for 12 days straight and no shin bang, no pressure pains, warm in 0F temperatures,.
Very, very satisfied and I highly recommend the design and implementation.
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p.s. awesome stiffness for an a.t. boot.
If you have last years model you should get ahold of a vendor and try to get the grilimid insert. It’s a process to install but doable in an afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
I'm happy the way they are, plenty stiff, ridiculously light, warm, huDge spectrums of adjustments with tech fittings and so comfortable.
Cabrio incest. A frankenboot is born! Noticed the Roxas have similar markings and holes to the Lupo, so with a little drilling and tweaking swapped out the stock strap/buckle with a more traditional Lupo strap and buckle setup. Super easy mod!
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I've been on this boot for 2 seasons...Love the way it skis, wish there was a little more range of motion when touring but the down performance is worth it.
I've found the sole blocks and plastic is a little soft so they look beat up but still working out fine...I bent up a buckle pretty bad and Roxa came through with replacements no charge...great support from them!
Those markings are there because the R3 line comes from the same mold as the Element series (same boot but with different buckle configuration, no tech fittings, no DRI, and a fixed upper cuff).
How wide are these boots? I have a medium to wide foot with a high instep. Current inbounds boot is a Rossignol Alltrack 120 (same-ish mold as a Lange SX) that fits really good out of the box. Would these work for me?
my foot is the same kind of shape..high instep and wider forefoot, no issues with fit on my end. I have one foot that is a whole mondo size bigger than the other so the bootfitter went with the bigger size. Molded the liner and put a custom footbed in it...did a little work to the smaller shell and I have been really good in it..
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Originally Posted by TheK12
how is the fit right out of the box on these? i was planning to try out a pair this spring, but now social distancing is making working with a bootfitter in person a little hard. i found a pair at a good price, but that ain't gonna do me much good if i end having to get a bunch of work done on 'em.....
What other boot fits you well out of the box?Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
They call the R3 130 T.I. a 99mm last, and it is similar to a Full Tilt Classic or Tecnica Cochise fit, but with a sharper indent in the mid-arch. Roxa recommends a 9 minute cooking time for this boot to heat mold it, which will let it widen from 2-4mm. I didn't try this, but punched it in the arch and for my first and fifth met heads straight away - I am more of a 104mm fit, with large medial side bunions on top of that, but it fits great now. I did cook the liners for 5 minutes and molded them.
This is a great boot. I particularly like the top buckle design which uses a wide Velcro strip instead of conventional teeth, allowing broader and finer levels of adjustment to stiffness. This is great for touring and adjusting to different snow firmness.
Are there any other designs that do this?
I have duck feet: narrow in the ankle, high instep and fairly wide across the toes and these suckers fit right out of the box.
The only shortcoming is the rearward flex in touring mode. This has gotten better with use in the last week and for me the trade off with downhill performance and adjustability is the win.
Greg L - i bot the element 120 at the end of last season and got the liner heat molded late this season - just in time for a couple of days..... very similar to the yellow boot here you guys are talking about - i find it super stiff with the stiffness locked out and too wimpy in the soft mode, (i'm coming off a krypton that i've taken the flex down to 115-120 with a more flexible tongue and added a booster strap, and before that i used Salomon Xmas 130 that i really liked (the yellow one, great heel retention), both these boots were 28s the element is a 27) i like it but i want to change the flex to somewhere in between locked out and not, in one of the other threads i've read about that this years boot has a 'dynamic response insert' that changed the flex considerably for the better, do you if this is a mode that can be done to the element? i don't want to give up on the boot just yet but i need it to give - a little, lots to like about this boot
Kevin, the Element is made to flex softer in "soft" mode because it's our flagship freestyle boot. Typically park skiers want a longer range of fore-aft travel than a freeride skier (R3 130).Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin@wtco.com
The DRI can absolutely be installed in the Element 120, but I don't expect any to be available until Fall 2020 (they come from Italy). If you can wait, hit me up then and I'll get you lined out.
Aside from adding this piece, another tactic that I've heard of a local boot fitter using to get more flex in "hard" is to shorten the hard/soft mechanism. This absolutely voids any sort of warranty and I am not recommending anyone try this, just sharing what I've seen:
What I'm talking about is that little white piece of plastic that locks out the lower throat of the boot when in "hard" (take out the liner and look for the only piece of white plastic in the back of the boot, that's it). When you take some material off the ends of this piece, and then turn the boot to "hard", the throat of the lower will be able to open and close a little, just as it would if it were in "soft", but less. This lengthens the boot's range of forward motion, but not in a progressive way like the DRI does. The more material you take off this piece, the "softer" the boot gets. I would literally do 1 mm at a time if you go this route, but as I said, it's not a company-endorsed procedure by any stretch.
I cut down the the piece Al is talking about. Was actually looking for a softer flex which I did via a tongue mod. But I was concerned that I then had too much range and I could pull my achilles. The lock mechanism really cut down almost all movement. I trimmed it in stages and was able to achieve a soft longe range of flex with a hard stop right where I wanted it. Have about 10 days on them, happy with no problems so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeAl
A dremel plastic cutting wheel worked great in a Foredom-
https://www.dremel.com/en_US/product...-shaping-wheel
When the DRI becomes available, I'll reach out to my rep for one to try.
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Originally Posted by gregL
Good point, not many. Most of them,!I need a little bit of fucking heel lift. So I decided to get these boots anyways and I asked the guy to send a few extra fucking heel lifts. We’ll see how it goes.
thanks.
Some pics and thoughts from a home DRI install.
Squeeze the throat to line up the plastic insert and mark. Note It fits pretty well but can slide around. I used a right hand drill so I could drill directly on my marks. I drilled pilot holes from inside, realigned the holes and sized them up until the the hardware felt snuggish. A better option would be to transfer the mark with a bright flashlight inside the boot.
Without the insert the boots are really smooth and soft. It’s comfy but gets overpowered easily. The insert ups the ability beyond what I’ve found and the flex keeps most of its good character.
I didn’t particularly like the hard flex before or after but I think it’s the same.
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Al-
Does the 110 get the dri next year?
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a pretty simple concept that could be adapted to a variety of cabrio style boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlAikenstein
I think the stiffening inserts that come with Kryptons accomplish the same thing. Prevent/create more resistance for the throat/spines things from coming together in the rear when flexing forward. I think there's a photo of Bode Miller bolting some spoilers cuffs to his FTs the same way to probably achieve the same thing, but bolted it WAY higher, cuz he can probably crush the stiffest FT tongue in half.Quote:
Originally Posted by kootenayskier
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlAikenstein
Yep, a boot will ski identically in Hard with or w/o a DRI installed.
One tip on DRI installation- You don't have to take the boot apart to do it. Just put it in hike mode, push the upper back, and you'll have plenty of room to work. This also helps keep the lower throat pinched enough to take all of the guesswork out of lining the piece up.
Nope, the R3 130 TI and R3S 130 (fixed cuff 4 buckle piste-oriented boot) are still the only boots that will come with the DRI. Since the addition of a DRI has so much of an impact on the boot's overall stiffness, we simply can't make a 110 flex boot with one installed, regardless of tongue stiffness. Solutions to this are in the works, but it's honestly just too early in development to give any timeline or details.Quote:
Originally Posted by turnfarmer
Al - great info here, thanks!
and very cool to see that mod in practice, looks easy enough