Nice package. AWD, clearance, low roofline, six speed manual.
Enough with Subaru. I'm leaking oil.
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Nice package. AWD, clearance, low roofline, six speed manual.
Enough with Subaru. I'm leaking oil.
long threads on this in vwvortex in the Golf Sportwagon VII section
Yup. Diggin it. More fun to drive than outback/cross trek. In between on size. Ok clearance. Good in snow, especially with winter tires.
Enjoying the shit out of ours.
See the Wagon Stoke thread for more info on the Alltrack.
Leaving Subaru for VW because of reliability might be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
That said, I'm loving my Mk7 Golf wagon.
Yeah, well, that's what I'd like to know. Maybe I should have asked for the 100,000 mile plus owners only. But, my last two Subarus have now had serious engine issues. The 01 had the overheating issue, which they recalled and fixed for free, and now, at 105,000 on the 10, I'm looking at oil loss issues, which are well known to this vintage of Subaru, so, you know, fuck them.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
ground clearance is pretty pedestrian in the alltrack
FWIW, VW have improved over the years.
The VWVortex forums are quiet with respect to ongoing issues.
A couple that do stand out are:
Leaky sunroof that's the result of a poor design.
Something about an intake manifold flap. Though it's not common.
The high pressure fuel pumps used to fail on occasion. Not sure if it's still an issue.
The head unit seems to flake out.
There's also lots of people who've made it to 40-50k miles with no issues. Not that that's a barometer for anything.
There's really good deals to be had on 2017s since there is a refresh for 2018.
Keep in mind this generation of Golf has only been out since 2015 so there's not a lot of high mileage cars.
And it's a lot smaller than an Outback.
I parked next to one the other day, and it's pretty close to my Forester, which is good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
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As I mentioned, I like the low roofline. I would be able to actually look down into my box, and bikes wouldn't be a stretch. Little Jap SUVs just get taller and taller.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
There's also the 4 motion wagon that's even lower.
True, but I would worry quite a bit about scraping that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
It's only 1.5" lower.
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Shit the sunroofs still leak? My 2005 Touareg had a leaky sun roof. When it dumped rain my cup holder filled with water and dash lit up like a Christmas tree. Shop could never figure it out. Got rid of that enigma when I had a kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
Subaru's haven't been all that reliable for me either. They're good for about 120k and then they go to shit.
Get the Alltrack S without a sunroof, but with the pleather interior unlike the GSW S. I've seen some 2017's around $22k 0% interest, also great lease options if you're concerned about reliability and don't drive a ton of miles. They drive great. We want one but it's not gonna happen because I want to quit my job. 1 car payment is enough.
I'm waiting for the diesel version before I buy my alltrack. ;)
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Just got the word on my '08 Outback (126K miles) - head gasket replacement is imminent. My guy says he expects all of them in for head gaskets after 100k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
This thread has my attention.
... Thom
Check your oil regularly. Trust me, I know. It's getting bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
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Wow, all the way to 40 or 50K miles without any problems!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
/snark
I still don't understand how VW has a reputation for quality overseas, but in the US, seems to be consistently shitty.
^^^this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Yup ... last time I had to think about head gaskets was when I was a young-un ... back in the day when I owned a Fiat 124 Sport Coupe ... oil in the water, water in the oil and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
It's going to be decision time in the next 2-5K miles - whether the Subbie goes under head gasket surgery for the price of about 8 car payments, or is traded in.
... Thom
VW has that rep in Europe. They are getting compared to French and British and Italian crap that we wouldn't touch in the US. But they're really not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
XV still seems like a better vehicle in almost every way. 20 less hp, but whatever.
I got an AllTrack as a loaner when my GTI got a new water pump. I gotta say I really liked it. I was really impressed by the how quick it was with the DSG and that little turbo 4. I'd like to get my wife one.
Have you driven a Golf recently? I think you have it backwards. The Golf and the Mazda3 feel like they are 2 generations ahead of the Impreza. Better engine, better handling, better steering, better interior, better looking. Subaru has the excellent AWD system but everything else about them is mediocre.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
That said, if you buy a new Subaru (especially and Impreza hatch or Crosstrek) and drive it for four years and sell it, the depreciation is so small that it is one of the best deals around.
Bunny, if long-term reliability and repair costs are the issue, VW/Audi aint the answer.
That's been my concern for a while - especially BMW/Audi, but with VW as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYSteve
Whatever happened to German manufacturing in the past decade and a half?
... Thom
Yeah, I've heard. So maybe the Honda HRV. That's a nice package. But Honda has oil consumption issues too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYSteve
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Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
Sind die Alltracks nicht in Mexiko?
Mazda CX3?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Anecdotally it’s all going to hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
Statistically though, nothings changed.
We have over 13,000 miles on our Alltrack. It is THE BEST snow car I have ever owned, that is after having 16 Subarus. HERE is my Long Term Test.
Honda makes nice cars but Mazda CX-3 and CX-5 AWD system kicks ass on Honda AWD. C&D likes Mazda AWD system better than others. We very much like our CX-5, bought it used with 20K miles, 50K on it now, no problems, zero oil use, although time will tell re long-term reliability, great handling, excellent snow/ice performance, lots of car for the money, very fun to drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
I'm sure the Mazda CX-series are great cars, but they're ass ugly.
IMHO, of course.
We looked at the CX, and in fact went into the test drive with high hopes from all of the accolades, we almost expected an entry level Japanese Macan...we just didn't find that. The thing that seperated the Alltrack from everything else was the teutonic feel and the seats, especially the passenger one. Most...err all of the Asian cars in this range had awful passenger seats with limited adjustments, especially on the seat bottom.
Subaru brake technicians around the nation are celebrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Subaru's aren't perfect (I've replaced the shortblock in mine and the headgaskets a couple times and even with that at 215k I have to add a quart of oil every 3000k) but my car is 15+ years old and everything still works, the ac still blows cold, I drove it on 3-3000 mile trips in the last 9 months with no issues other than the 3 quarts of oil it sucked up - I'm tickled since the last shortblock required a fill at the halfway point but now I can make it back home before the add. No little problems or inherent defects on most of them other than the piston ring issues and HG. MLS gaskets that are retrofitted to pre 2010 cars have pretty much fixed the HG issues. I bought it brand new and it has never been towed. Always makes it home. Fuck yeah I'd buy another Subaru.
Too bad they don't make an Outback with the stick for the TGR crowd.
The Alltrack looks sweet and I find myself envious of those that own them. Too small though for my 15 year old to fit in the backseat without bitching and moaning the whole time. But a six speed and sexy. I don't know if I could make it work for me but keeping my eye on the depreciation. Might be a great car to buy used three years old for 1/2 off. Or not. Depending on how they run.
Benny go read some VW forums for a while. Search VW lemons. If that doesn't deter you I want you to buy one just to hear you bitch and moan about every little German engineered gremlin that comes up. You won't pretend it is perfect even if it isn't. Your Subaru might burn some oil past the rings and force your gloved hands to pop the hood to check the dipstick but I'll bet the windows always work on that piece of shit.
Why isn't the Toyota Venza more popular on TGR? AWD wagon, and should be way more reliable than any VW/Audi or Subaru.
They're ugly, but is there any other reason?
They're discontinued?
2018 Chevy Equinox AWD 1.6L Diesel. Decent GM 6 speed automatic. The real selling point is 590 miles of range on one tank! Only 29 cubic feet behind the rear seat though and my wife laughed and then looked at me with the "you're not serious right?" when I mentioned it as a vehicle on my radar.