Truck snow tires

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My work truck (GMC 1500 4x4) has terrible non snowflake all seasons on it and it struggles to corner and brake in our mid winter conditions, my Element with snows runs laps around it. The all seasons are brand new, and it has stupid rims 285/45/22 so its hard to find a legit (Read BFG AT, Dynapro etc) for it.

What are folks running on their trucks this size in the winter where you're driving on snow and ice the majority of the time? Looks like I can get Blizzaks for it....for the price of a sled.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ruck-Tire-Time

Put smaller rims on it while you're at it. You don't need no 22" rims on a truck.

I recently put on Falken AT3Ws. Thus far they are killing it the snow and have good highway manners. Michilen LTS M/S is a popular non-snow rated but still decent tire that may be found in your size and is very popular on trucks.

Get a second set of rims in a more normal size (17s?) and get Duratracs put on them.

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It's a wrapped work truck and they like it to look flashy hence the rims. Selling them on buying some smaller wheels seems like the way to go.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Get a second set of rims in a more normal size (17s?) and get Duratracs put on them.

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22" rims on a truck just ain't right. Energy drink company?

Pretty easy to grab some take-off 18" stock rims on Ebay for cheap. Then get any decent tire you like.

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Originally Posted by oldblue

22" rims on a truck just ain't right. Energy drink company?

Pretty easy to grab some take-off 18" stock rims on Ebay for cheap. Then get any decent tire you like.

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I was thinking drug dealer.

This is a work vehicle? Who's paying for the new tires/wheels?

Ha, you wouldn't believe the category...Work is paying for the tires/rims hence why I don't particularly care about the price, I just want great snow performance.

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Ha, you wouldn't believe the category...Work is paying for the tires/rims hence why I don't particularly care about the price, I just want great snow performance.

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Get some nokian hakka 8 with studs on 16 or 17 rims. If its not your money and they will be swapped when you want, no need to fuck around.

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Get some nokian hakka 8 with studs on 16 or 17 rims. If its not your money and they will be swapped when you want, no need to fuck around.

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Agree, if you can get the right size Nokian Hakkas on your car, there really isn't need to look any further. Best winter tires I have ever been on.

It would be nice if Nokian would produce a Hakkapeliitta 8 in a 255/70R18 with a 116 LR. I emailed them to request the size. I'd be in for 2 sets.

These days pretty much everything in the 1/2 ton / full size suv market comes with 18" wheels. Sure, you can get some 17" wheels but it's easy to get 18" take-offs for cheap.

Yeah, they offer a 275/65R18 but it's just too wide for vehicles under 7,000lbs.

I just put the new 10plly Nokian Hakka LT's on my Titan XD. They are even better than the last version. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

They offer them in these sizes:
LT275/65R18 123/120 Q
up to 100 mph, max load 3420 lb
List dealers
LT275/70R18 125/122 Q
up to 100 mph, max load 3640 lb

yup if cost is no object 10ply studded haks, I've had em on my Ranger for the last 5 seasons and I been on studded Haks since 2001

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yup if cost is no object 10ply studded haks, I've had em on my Ranger for the last 5 seasons and I been on studded Haks since 2001

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I was actually able to special order them in for $500 less then the duratacks that discount tire had in stock. And the Nokians are 10x the snow tire, so its worth shopping around for some quotes.....

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I just put the new 10plly Nokian Hakka LT's on my Titan XD. They are even better than the last version. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

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I've been lusting after those, just not sure the tread compound will be soft enough for a 6,000lb truck.

Flashy trucks look really dumb in the ditch.

Ditch the dubs and get a real truck wheel and tire combo.

Bumping this up. This was heavily discussed in the Trucks thread but I have no idea what page anymore.

There were reccos in there for my Tundras size 285/70r17. The BFG ATs even in the winter compound suck when its cold cold. Like Single digits and below.

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Bumping this up. This was heavily discussed in the Trucks thread but I have no idea what page anymore.

There were reccos in there for my Tundras size 285/70r17. The BFG ATs even in the winter compound suck when its cold cold. Like Single digits and below.

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https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/....php?p=6687632

I'd meet ya in the middle lands if you're interested.

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https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/....php?p=6687632

I'd meet ya in the middle lands if you're interested.

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Damn dude PM incoming.

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https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/....php?p=6687632

I'd meet ya in the middle lands if you're interested.

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Holy shnikeys, get on that.

I run 20” General Arctic tires on my Tundra.


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Is this a good place to ask about tpms sensors when changing from summer to winter tires and vice versa? I picked up some used steel wheels for cheap so I don't have to pay the tire shop to mount/remount 2x a year (they want $140 for a change over now). Do you ignore the light for the winter? Did you buy new sensors for the winter set, and if so, how do you manage the reprogram?

Has anyone seen the Nokkian Hakka LT3 in stock this fall? Seems to be on backorder everywhere I've looked. 285/75 R16 specifically.

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Is this a good place to ask about tpms sensors when changing from summer to winter tires and vice versa? I picked up some used steel wheels for cheap so I don't have to pay the tire shop to mount/remount 2x a year (they want $140 for a change over now). Do you ignore the light for the winter? Did you buy new sensors for the winter set, and if so, how do you manage the reprogram?

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I've done it both ways.

The reprogram depends on the vehicle. On my Bolt it was a $50 tool and it was super easy to do, took 2min. On my wife's Forester it's a $300 tool so we just ignore the light. Google yours and see if buying the reprogram tool makes sense or not.

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Is this a good place to ask about tpms sensors when changing from summer to winter tires and vice versa? I picked up some used steel wheels for cheap so I don't have to pay the tire shop to mount/remount 2x a year (they want $140 for a change over now). Do you ignore the light for the winter? Did you buy new sensors for the winter set, and if so, how do you manage the reprogram?

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Different cars act differently if no TPMS are present.

- Without TPMS in the winters 2011 manual Honda Fit threw a dash light, and it wouldn’t let you turn off traction/stability control. Not much fun, and could get bogged down.

- 2013 Toyota Sienna throws a dash light without TPMS, but no other side effects.

-2018 Mazda CX-3 doesn’t even throw a dash light without TPMS.

If you do get TPMS you’ll probably need the shop to re-link them to the vehicle every time wheels are swapped. I think you can buy the tool yourself but if I recall correctly the price was prohibitive.

I actually have TPMS in the Sienna winters, but I swap wheels myself and would rather live with the dash light than take it to the shop twice a year.

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Has anyone seen the Nokkian Hakka LT3 in stock this fall? Seems to be on backorder everywhere I've looked. 285/75 R16 specifically.

I've done it both ways.

The reprogram depends on the vehicle. On my Bolt it was a $50 tool and it was super easy to do, took 2min. On my wife's Forester it's a $300 tool so we just ignore the light. Google yours and see if buying the reprogram tool makes sense or not.

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I can reprogram those. Did on my work van in no time. But yeah, they are dumb.

And as for Nokian, I was told that the Nordman design is just the last version of the Hakka renamed. Is that true? If so, then I'll gladly pay ~$100 less per tire for last year's model. But feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong on that. Something the sales guy told me. And my Nordman7's are pretty darn good in the snow.

Looks like the tool to reprogram for a Tacoma is around $200. I don’t see any ill effects of not having Tpms sensors in winter wheels other than the dash light. I’m a little ocd, but that seems like the best option.

Edit: now I’m not sure, seeing reprogrammers on Amazon for $50. It’ll need more Google-ing.


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Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Is this a good place to ask about tpms sensors when changing from summer to winter tires and vice versa? I picked up some used steel wheels for cheap so I don't have to pay the tire shop to mount/remount 2x a year (they want $140 for a change over now). Do you ignore the light for the winter? Did you buy new sensors for the winter set, and if so, how do you manage the reprogram?

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Depends on vehicle
Expensive sensors from tirerack on my volvo would not work, volvo dealer refused to program vehicle for them because even though correct frequency they weren’t volvo oem so I ignored the light.

Jeep, Ford, Tesla - cheap sensors from ebay or similar. Work perfect. May need to setup once but now every swap the vehicle automatically figures out which set are on within a few miles.

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Depends on vehicle
Expensive sensors from tirerack on my volvo would not work, volvo dealer refused to program vehicle for them because even though correct frequency they weren’t volvo oem so I ignored the light.

Jeep, Ford, Tesla - cheap sensors from ebay or similar. Work perfect. May need to setup once but now every swap the vehicle automatically figures out which set are on within a few miles.

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Yeah, after going down the rabbit hole on a Tacoma forum I learned that you buy aftermarket sensors that are programmable/clone-able, and then have the tire shop match sensor ID's from the OEM's currently installed. Then, every season when you switch wheels, the truck just thinks it's the same wheels. I think you just press the TPMS reset button under the steering wheel if you rotate when you switch wheels, and then the truck 'learns' the position of the wheels.

I guess the only real problem with this is if you park in the garage where the summer/winter set is stored. The two sets will compete and cause the dash light to come on, but supposedly that resets after you've driven a mile or so from home.

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Has anyone seen the Nokkian Hakka LT3 in stock this fall? Seems to be on backorder everywhere I've looked. 285/75 R16 specifically.



I've done it both ways.

The reprogram depends on the vehicle. On my Bolt it was a $50 tool and it was super easy to do, took 2min. On my wife's Forester it's a $300 tool so we just ignore the light. Google yours and see if buying the reprogram tool makes sense or not.

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Prolly gonna be a rough go for any Nokians until they get the business fully operational in Finland after starting to move it out of Russia in the end of June. 80% of their tires were made in Russia including a lot of Hakks.

Ahh, that would explain that.

Nokia has a North American factory in Tennessee. I would guess that’s where all our tires come from.

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Nokia has a North American factory in Tennessee. I would guess that’s where all our tires come from.

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why don’t you go do some research. Nokian is a Finnish company from Nokia, Finland. They produce 80% of the tires in Russia and 20% of those tire produced are used in the region. The rest were shipped out. But with tariffs and war, that stopped manufacturing in Russia and are moving their plants to Finland. Yes they have a factory in Tennessee but is produces about 10% of the tires. Around a 1,000,000 tires a year and they are trying to double production. But this shitty nonindustrial economy kicks them in the balls at every turn. And all Hakks were made at the plants in Russia.

Curious if there are any Washington west side truck drives with thoughts on snows vs AT all seasons?

Re TPMS, I tried the cheap Amazon Chinese tool and it didn’t work. Got them to send me another, and still no go. I did go with steels and dedicated winters for the chevy, which is the only vehicle of our 3 with the sensors.

As I bought the tires from the local shop and have them do all the mounting for new rubber shoes, they are fine with me coming twice a year to reset the monitors with their fancy unit for free, even though I make the actual wheel swap myself. Not sure if this is common across the industry, but worth the ask and the $500 or so it costs to purchase the proper re-learn tool.

I see Kal Tire (Canada) has the non studded Nokian LT3 in your size in stock
https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/hak...v4=285&start=1

I had a second wheel set for my (now gone) 2021 Suby Crosstrek that I got from Discount Tire, and I used the TPMS they recommended. At first, it didn't seem to work, but after about 20 miles of driving, they linked up with no issues. YMMV, but I think if you use a shop that knows what they're doing, they'll probably know what to use so you don't have to dick around with re-programming sensors - at least on new(er) vehicles.

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why don’t you go do some research. Nokian is a Finnish company from Nokia, Finland. They produce 80% of the tires in Russia and 20% of those tire produced are used in the region. The rest were shipped out. But with tariffs and war, that stopped manufacturing in Russia and are moving their plants to Finland. Yes they have a factory in Tennessee but is produces about 10% of the tires. Around a 1,000,000 tires a year and they are trying to double production. But this shitty nonindustrial economy kicks them in the balls at every turn. And all Hakks were made at the plants in Russia.

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Those Fins make great cell phones too, hope the current state of affairs doesn’t hurt business.


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Curious if there are any Washington west side truck drives with thoughts on snows vs AT all seasons?

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No west sider needs dedicated snow tires. Studs are laughable.




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Originally Posted by AK47bp

No west sider needs dedicated snow tires. Studs are laughable.

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speak for yourself
snow tires are essential if you travel to snow zones more than occasionally
i find studs great through transitional zones that we find going up/down thru elevations where we move from mist/rain to glaze to snow
could i get away without them? sure, i can concede that, but they do perform demonstrably differently from all seasons