Just pulled the trigger on a pair of these, appear to be a beefed up Slat,
146-118-140, 186 only.
https://blackops.rossignol.com/
Anyone have any insight on these skis? Look to be exactly what I like.
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Just pulled the trigger on a pair of these, appear to be a beefed up Slat,
146-118-140, 186 only.
https://blackops.rossignol.com/
Anyone have any insight on these skis? Look to be exactly what I like.
Saw a pair in the lift line in Whistler... Looked to be a fun playful shape. They definitely look to be a more dual directional style than the souls and sky and super... I guess there is not much to ski pow switch with in the rossi/dynastar line-up... Let us know how they ride.
Word from the rep is Pelonia wood and carbon stringers, I like a stiffer, but playful ski so I'm hoping they fit the bill. I may have to mount them back a bit but we'll see how they look when they show up.
I saw them Wednesday and if they came in 195, I would of pulled the trigger.
The rep I talked to said they have a sheet of metal on the top sheet.
That sheet of metal might just be the mounting plate. Not that I actually know. But reps have certainly made more exaggerated claims than that...Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
If you can get a second pair, I'll gladly give them my feed back! It's not easy to find a pair of big (200+) skis for big guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by One (+) Sentence
I just mounted mine up the other day and have yet to ski them, but they are stiffer (hand flexing) than I originally anticipated which is a good thing. Having liked the Slat, I was looking for a stiffer, yet playful inbounds powder ski, and I think the Black Ops will fit the bill nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
I mounted at the recommended line which was somewhere around 2-3cm back from center (I can't recall specifically).
No metal mounting plate - calls for a 3.5 bit
I guess I do not understand the comparisons to the Rossignol Slat in this thread. The slat is 97mm wide and Black Ops is 118mm. Please enlighten...
I think people think its a beefed up, wider Slat, reminds me of a wider S6. I guess one of the team members won't ski the Soul series skis and still skis S6's and this is his, amongst some others, project. Will write a review once I ski them.
Came here to post that. Camber looks really good, and a 10 underfoot even better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebornstein
Touched and flexed an unmounted pair today. I was expecting them to be beefy and yup.
I guess if you are concerned about swing weight then look elsewhere... I'm pretty stoked to try a pair whenever they become available,
yet I wouldn't expect this ski to become a new major production model... more of a team ski I guess, it looks to be very well built, and I don't think it comes out of the same factory as the Soul/Sin/Sky series.
Lot like my old volkl chopsticks in terms of beef, but narrower and camber underfoot.
I just wish rossi would get back to listening to the athletes and make a few more raceroom freeride skis. Not a fan of the gimmicky high tech honeycomb skis and such. They could easily compete with blizzard and nordica if they wanted to.
Reminds me of the Rayvn/S6 with rocker and less taper in the tail. The blacked-out dimensions and secretive bullshit marketing is kinda lame too, probably so they can sell all 50 pair they made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian Sanders
Haha, yeah. Guerilla Marketing by one of the biggest, oldest brands in the industry. Stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by sicktird
I'm sure all the backseat driving, no poles, flippy spinny kids are begging their parents for them.
And you know their parents will oblige since they are rocking Souless 7s...Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Black ops?
Sounds kinda racist to me, and the French are assholes.
My G3 Highballs called for a 3.5. They have metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
They have sold a ton of Soul 7's and Super 7's. While certainly more of the Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla of skis, they play to the masses. Now they made them the "HD" and made the Super 7 more super with the turquoise topsheet and they get to sell the same customer a tweaked version of the same ski all over again. Not my cup of tea, but brilliant if it gets the sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian Sanders
African-American Ops would be the proper nomenclature, unless you're not talking about the guys who built the underground railroads.[emoji14]Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
The S7 series of skis has taken Rossi from their death throws around the time thy had freeride athlete inspired skis to being one of the healthiest ski brands and businesses around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian Sanders
That said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't encourage bringing the RC112 back under the black ops brand next year.
Hand fucked a pair today. They is nice!
Stiff underfoot and more flexible toward tip and tail. Blister just reviewed the ski, but only had preliminary info.
IMO - Would be great Pow ski for someone who doesn't weigh 195 pounds like I do. Why not make a 192 or the like? 186 is a bit limiting...
That's great for them, and I fully encourage engaging the gaper market, it's just that they could still stand to make some more serious skis, even if it is just a few models.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
There are so many smaller manufactures that fill that niche, why bother? I had a pair of s6, they were fine skis, but I won't be looking at Rossi for any ski purchases in the near future. RC112 show up in gear swap all the time.
Because they are rossignol / dynastar?
I understand the slagging large manufacturers, and I am not a fan of the old OG S7 or the new "S" series... they do what they promise well, yet there is a certain something missing. Maybe it is just that they are kinda boring and easy and everyone has them.
These Black OPs are something different.
I wonder how much these puppies weigh... They do feel like they have metal in them.
Also... This must mean some murdered out Look P18s are in the pipeline.
I mounted mine up at -2cm back last Thursday. Skied Alta Friday, Snowbird Saturday and have some preliminary impressions.
Me: 6ft, 215(winter weight came on a bit strong in the fall)
Agressive skiier
Conditions were generally pow-ish, cream cheese, and the cirque at the bird.
Skis I currently own:
'13 RMU Professor prototype(Stiffer/More camber than production) 186
'15 RMU North Shore proto (Metal) 186
'15 RMU Apostle 186 Every day
I did some work for RMU and worked for discounted skis, I like the skis and the Prof is really similar to the black ops.
The Black Ops is a very fun ski. Took me maybe 1 run to get used to, and it definitely demands a centered/new school stance when you are in anything other than groomers. So far, I really like these skis, they have a ton of pop, really good edge hold and torsional rigidity. More to come after more snow/terrain opens.
Any more updates? I picked up a pair too, but am worried they might be shorter than what I"m looking for. Deciding if i should mount them or not as they've got quite a bit more tail rocker than I thought they would and I'm worried they'll ski short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
Quick review - me 5'9, 140lbs, 33, aggressive. Mounted a -2cm. This ski is the best ski hill soft snow ski I've ever used. Incredibly damp, powerful, but easy to smear at a moments notice. Rocker profile makes it impossible to bury a tip it seems. Stomps drops confidently. Really I can't find a fault with this ski for the way I ski. If you like a snappy, flat tail ski, you will hate it. This thing is made to drift through stuff, smash through it, and not give any feed back about it.
Skis (in the pow ski catagory) I think this is better than that I've owned or skied
Candide 4.0
Line Prophet 130
Blizzard Bodacious
Bluehouse Maestro
Salomon rocker1
Just my opinion, but if you like fat floaty, powerful but easy to control twin tips but with no speed limit, you might like these.
Sorry Sam, just saw this. did you get them mounted up? They do ski a bit short, I would like this ski in a 195.Quote:
Originally Posted by samthaman
Anybody have a pair of these they want to get rid of?
Yeah, me. Never mounted. Pm me if you're interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Pm'd
Bunch of peeps here in JH ski them and absolutely love them. Wish I had more info or could say I've tried them.
Would love to try these. I'm kinda in between sizes though so don't know what I would do. Wish they made them in a ~182
You'd be fine on the 86 especially if you mount them more towards the recommended mount.
SillyGoat - no metal in the BO. 4.1mm drill bit not requested on top sheet. 2500g per ski.
I'm selling my pair! $400+ship for skis and look p18's mounted at ~296. One season old, no coreshots.
Any more TGR feedback on these? The Blister reviewer calling it his “favorite inbounds pow ski of all time” has me intrigued. A heavy, progressively mounted, super damp bulldozer of a ski sounds like the metal Katana/Rossi Sickle combo I’ve always been looking for. Perfect for those deep, soft chop inbounds days in the Wasatch...