MAKE TAHOE DEEP AGAIN ~ 2016/17 OFISHUL SNOW/FOOD/WHINE & STOKE THREAD

Welcome... Back!
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...2&d=1473785948
This year, we have no clear indicators in ocean surface temps or overall global patterns. It could be great or it could be teh suck or just average (which worked out pretty well last year). No doubt the tiniest snowfall will be hyped just as much as the supposed benefits of massive development. Mother Nature may be waiting on the election to decide how to treat us. Whatever happens in politics, it's going to snow somewhere, sometime and you better be ready. Help your bros and sistahs stay fired up by posting stoke and positive vibes.

Get good karma:
Keep Squaw True Development affects us all. Help shape it in accordance with local values, not bureaucrats and investors from out of the area.
Tahoe Backcountry Alliance Collective action so that the Powers That Be can hear backcountry users speaking up about winter access.
One Reno Mount Rose Anti-colonial kickstarter working to keep Mt Rose ski area local and responsive to skiers. Volunteers needed!


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About Lake Tahoe ~powdork~
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Powdiction ~321~
Snow Bunny Ski Freak ~Jim S~
Slay The Gnar ~Skier666~
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Patch Skiing ~Vets~
Food/Treat Map One stop shopping! ~Consigliere~
Arcade Apparel ~Alkasquawlik~
PM Gear ~splat~



CA East Side BC Thread ~213~
Eastern Sierras ~DrPete
Sonora Pass Thread ~mikey b


Just like last year, if you have suggestions, links, find bugs, or random thoughts let it flow. Hopefully this can become a useful tool that will only get better next year!

08/09 Tahoe Thread
09/10 Tahoe Thread
10/11 Tahoe Thread
11/12 Tahoe Thread
13/14 Tahoe Thread
14/15 Thread
15/16 Thread


*** Those who are interested can pour over the maps below, or you can get the NOAA Radio version of the weather forecast while you pinch your morning loaf! *** ~guermo~


Or, short cut to the Weather Geek! ~The Dad~





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ROAD CONDITIONS

~The Dad~
www.beatthetraffic.com - good maps for Bay Area and SAC 'to


WebCam Quick Links:
Tahoetopiea You Pick 'ems
Truckee I-80 You Pick 'ems


TRAFFIC / ROAD CONDITIONS

California DOT 800-427-7623 (800-GAS-ROAD) or 916-445-7623

Nevada DOT - Highway Controls Summary 511 or 877-687-6237 (877-NVROADS)
nvroads.com

CalTrans California Highway Condition Report hourly all highways summarized (California DOT) www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/Hourly

CalTrans - Lake Tahoe Region Conditions www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roadlt

CalTrans Chain Control - Chain On/Off Areas CalTrans D3 Maintenance (location, elevation, distance) http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist3/departme...ChainOnOff.pdf
www.dot.ca.gov/dist3/departments/mtce/



ACCIDENTS
California Highway Patrol - Traffic Incident Page (select area - Truckee, Sacramento, Bishop, etc.)


Nevada Highway Patrol - Current Road Closures and Incidents



WEBCAMS

Magnifeye CalTrans & Resort cams

Tahoetopia - Lake Tahoe Web Cams

WEATHER FORECASTS & SNOW CONDITIONS + BACKCOUNTRY INFO

http://www.sierraavalanchecenter.org...o-no-words.png
Sierra Avalanche Center

Fx:
Tahoe Daily Snow (BA(Tahoe Weather Discussion))

Mammoth Weather/Mammoth Snowman from the Dweeb


SNOTEL Data:
Check out the handy snotel app from ~buildackicker~
Android

~ja_surf~
Carson Pass
Heavenly
Echo Peak
Fallen Leaf Lake
Squaw Granite Chief
Mt. Rose


WEATHER & SNOW CONDITIONS ~Skis4Fun~


NWS - Area Forecast Discussion (Reno)

NWS - Area Forecast Discussion (Sacramento)

NRCS National Resources Conservation Service - National Weather & Climate Center - California SNOTEL Sites


MesoWest Station Interface - (data varies by sensor but may include precipitation accumulated; snow water in; Max & min - wind speed, wind gust, temp; etc.) Nearby Stations (Sensors - usually hourly readings) by radius Univ UT Dept Meteorology (50 mile radius from Squaw Valley, choose preferred Region & then Product - Station Locations, select station from map & then select Nearby Stations)

Squaw Valley SQWC1 8200 ft

Carson Pass CXSC1 8500 ft


CDEC sites ~mmcpheet~

North Tahoe:
Ward Creek (Alpine Sherwood side)
Squaw Valley Gold Coast
Tahoe City Cross

I80 Westslope:
Meadow Lake (North of I80 westslope 7200)
Huysink (South of I80 westslope 6600)
Blue Canyon (I80 westslope 5280)
Lake Spaulding (I80 westslope 5150)


South Tahoe/West Shore:
Echo Peak 5 (North of 50 near Upper Echo Lake)
Fallen Leaf Lake
Rubicon Peak 2
Lake Lois (Desolation NW of Dicks/Jacks)
Heavenly Valley
Hagans Meadow (West of Freel Peak)
Horse Meadow (South of Freel Peak)

50 westslope:
Forni Ridge (North of 50 7600)
Alpha (North of 50 7600)

Towards Kirkwood:
Schneiders (between Sierra @ Tahoe and Kirkwood)
Carson Pass
Forestdale Creek
Caples Lake
Silver Lake
Mud Lake

Some Backcountry Info
Sierra Avalanche Center - Know before you go. Also consider donating or attending one of their many events.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/rev/avalanche/
When the "Forecasts" tab is open, click "Snow Level Forecasts." Really cool charts that show whether the snow level is likely to dip below the passes (or lifts or trailheads) in the near future. ~LightRanger~

WEATHER MAPS


Loops:
University of Washington Maps


NOAA Satellite IR Images (These are HUDGE pics so I just linked them): ~POWPIG~

1) 00Z GOES IR Satellite Image, Near Pacific
2) 00Z GOES IR Satellite Image, Broad Pacific

Maps:

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/Loop/...hwest_loop.gif

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/Loop/...hwest_loop.gif

http://sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/4km/NW/IR4NW.GIF

http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_pac_loop.gif

http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetsat_00.gif

Infrared Loop:
http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/...st_loop-12.gif

Water Vapor Loop:
http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/...st_loop-12.gif

(click images for the pages you can see these maps in motion... and the stills should update themselves too!)

http://image.weather.com/looper/arch...?1199011833014

http://image.weather.com/looper/arch...?1199176087971

http://image.weather.com/looper/arch...?1219723009282

http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/specia...wc_600x405.jpg

Precipitation Forecast:

http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/foreca...us_600x405.jpg

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/...em_loop-12.gif

http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/foreca...st_600x405.jpg

5 Day Precip Forecast:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i.gif ~SCUTSKI~

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/nepac/wv.jpg

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/...st_loop-12.gif

http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/gifs/WV500MB.GIF

Temperature Forecast:

http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/foreca...us_600x405.jpg

Inches of Water Expected:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IQLvcpWBM9...h/untitled.bmp ~woodsskier~

These belong here:

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Saw some Caltrans plows getting transported last night.....

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Originally Posted by TahoeBC

Kirkwood 9/13/16

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...778639&thumb=1

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...9&d=1473780620

S@T Westbowl 9/13/16
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...0&d=1473781764

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Originally Posted by meter-man

Not that anyone skis at that dump formerly known as Squaw anymore, but they're claiming an opening as early Nov 11!! (Nov 11-18 to be precise). http://squawalpine.com/events-things...alpine-meadows Speaking of runaway hype trains...


I know everyone is wetting the bed with the heavy heavy dusting going on right now in the Tahoe area...but I'm surprised I haven't heard more about the Mt. Rose sale and proposed purchase effort.

Here's an article about a group of folks trying to buy Rose and "keep it local" or whatever. http://www.sierrasun.com/news/busine...ose-ski-tahoe/

Anyone know anything about these benevolent humans saving Rose from Vail Corp?? I mean, "Keeping Rose Local". One Reno? https://www.facebook.com/oneRenoMtRo...SEARCH&fref=nf

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From a Rich friend of mine:


Can you do a little Promo assist?

Rich Meyer
to Rich
5 hours agoDetails
The "Ruin & Rose" film is coming up fast! Oct. 1st. (at Squaw Valley - OVI)
This will be a good time AND a fundraiser for the Tahoe Backcountry Alliance.
If you would consider doing a little promotion, I would greatly appreciate it.
Best,
Rich Meyer

https://www.facebook.com/events/649023715274439/

Join us at Olympic Valley Lodge for the Tahoe premiere of 'Ruin and Rose" ( MSP Film!) on Saturday October 1st at 7pm.
Acclaimed writer/director Ben Sturgulewski joins the award-winning team at Matchstick Productions and their two decades of filmmaking expertise to deliver “RUIN AND ROSE,” an epic creative vision brought to life by the talents of the world’s top skiers. Winter landscapes across the planet contrast seamlessly with a thoroughly-crafted story of environmental apocalypse, shot entirely within the incredible expanses of Africa’s otherworldly Skeleton Coast. Unlike anything seen before, the dreamlike setting of this film sparks the imagination of not only action sports enthusiasts, but anyone with a beating heart.
Buy your tickets early at Tahoe Dave's, cost $15.00. This is an all ages event.
Come early for good seats and a killer raffle benefiting the Tahoe Backcountry Alliance.

Website
http://tahoebackcountryalliance.org/
Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/TahoeBackco...iance/?fref=ts




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Rich Meyer Alpine Guide
Skiing, Climbing, & Avalanche Education
http://richmeyeralpineguide.com
MOBILE: 510-919-8751

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Great thread start.

With all the hubbub going on around No. Lake, I've always fancied this campaign...

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Great thread start.

With all the hubbub going on around No. Lake, I've always fancied this campaign...

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Awesome thread!

MSP "Ruin and Rose" this Saturday at Squaw. 2 showings: 7p and 9p

https://vimeo.com/176490083

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Couldn't resist an embellishment

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Even better!

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Originally Posted by lepistoir

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...2&d=1473785948

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Squaw claiming a November 11-18 opening. It's gonna be like 90 tomorrow. So much hype!!!

Headed to the beach this afternoon to pray for snow.

I feel like we need "Make Tahoe Deep Again" stickers... great thread title.

Hey cool. New thread.

10/15/16, California Avalanche Workshop
http://www.sierraavalanchecenter.org...anche-workshop

Yup, looks like uh, snow? Is it time to put up a new thread when all the patchskiing patches are gone?

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Oh, and I like the Tahoe web cameras here: http://www.rntl.net/tahoecam.htm

Please, please, please. Another 'average' year is all I ask.

OP skis while holding a golden retriever

the ultimate steeze !!!

ball till you both quadruple your money at casino of choice!

That's a sheep. That's how they roll in NZ.

oye

you're right

not even marginally cool

apologies

Do I need chains over the pass?

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Do I need chains over the pass?

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Hey guys, I'm really hoping to take my level 1 avy course this year and I'm looking for a little bit of direction. I've done a handful of backcountry trips but all of them were late spring and early summer with no fresh snow and little danger of a wet slide. I have all the necessary gear, based in Truckee and I've checked out the sierra avalanche center website but I don't really know which course provider to start with? I was hoping one of you could steer me in the proper direction. Thanks in advance.

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That's a sheep. That's how they roll in NZ.

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Avalanche poodle

^^ Check out ASI (http://alpineskills.com/) right in truckee. Been around for like 30 years so they've got it figured out pretty well. Took avy 1 with them last year and it was solid.

ASI is definitely a solid choice. I'll also suggest Donner Summit Avalanche Seminars, which is Randall Osterhuber's clinic. Randall's a snow scientist, forecaster, and SAR guy so he brings a lot to the table beyond the straight AIARE curriculum.

LTCC is the cheapest option but not very convenient from Truckee.

Yeah, ASI is the go-to.

Lake Tahoe Community College runs an excellent course that many folks here have taken as well.

Mountain Adventure Seminars is great too. They're out of Bear Valley and I really enjoyed my Level I I took with them.

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Well it's not Magic but I'm riding the Matterhorn in October.:D

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Hit us up for Yosemite

My yard five days ago . . . .

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Something, something . . . winter is coming.

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Originally Posted by B.Gillis

Hey guys, I'm really hoping to take my level 1 avy course this year and I'm looking for a little bit of direction. I've done a handful of backcountry trips but all of them were late spring and early summer with no fresh snow and little danger of a wet slide. I have all the necessary gear, based in Truckee and I've checked out the sierra avalanche center website but I don't really know which course provider to start with? I was hoping one of you could steer me in the proper direction. Thanks in advance.

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Alpenglow Expeditions ran a great course. Last year, the course was hosted at the Cedar House hotel, which was nice. Field days were in Negro Canyon and Donner Summit areas. https://alpenglowexpeditions.com/exp...lanche-course/.

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Originally Posted by AKbruin

. . . winter is coming.

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For whatever it's worth, I just saw the fuzziest caterpillar I've ever seen today.
Supposedly the furrier they are, the bigger the winter.
Or it could all be just a bunch of BS.

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Originally Posted by B.Gillis

Hey guys, I'm really hoping to take my level 1 avy course this year and I'm looking for a little bit of direction. I've done a handful of backcountry trips but all of them were late spring and early summer with no fresh snow and little danger of a wet slide. I have all the necessary gear, based in Truckee and I've checked out the sierra avalanche center website but I don't really know which course provider to start with? I was hoping one of you could steer me in the proper direction. Thanks in advance.

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Check out Tahoe Mountain School. They offer AIARE L.1's in Truckee.

I've heard great things about Donner Summit Seminars as well. I took my level 2 at LTCC last winter and it was great.

Looks like I will be the minority at this point, but I sent my friend in the ASI direction last winter and was blown away to find out who they had teaching the level 1. They have a history of having great instructors (I used them in 2007 for my level 1), so talk around before you drop the major $$$ for the course. Or play it safe with DS Seminars/LTCC/etc.

May just be a hiccup for them, but my .02 FWIW.

Awesome, you guys rock. I appreciate all of the info and insight. I know alot of folks haven't released their schedule of courses for this upcoming winter but should I plan on it being a Friday through Sunday deal or does anyone do weekday courses?

Back in this beezy with some data from a few SNOTEL stations of interest. Since I had to create a new account, I can't post images yet. Just wait, there will be pics-a-plenty for all yo snow nerd needz.

Over the past 37 winters (water years 1980-2016), here is the date in November when there is at least 1" of snow water equivalent (~6-12" of snow) on the ground, more than 50% of the time:

Sonora Pass: 11th
Heavenly Valley: 12th
Echo Peak: 9th
Truckee: 26th
Squaw Valley Gold Coast: 10th (hence the 2016/17 opening date estimates?)
Donner Summit (CSSL): 20th

I'll post up a map once I can.

Just for fun, the correlation between the average maximum Tahoe City Cross SNOTEL Sept 1-Oct 15 temperature and Oct 1-March 1 Precipitation total is 0.00476 (p=0.727).

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...e56573e146.jpg

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

I feel like we need "Make Tahoe Deep Again" stickers... great thread title.

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Certainly gets my vote.

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Originally Posted by B.Gillis

Awesome, you guys rock. I appreciate all of the info and insight. I know alot of folks haven't released their schedule of courses for this upcoming winter but should I plan on it being a Friday through Sunday deal or does anyone do weekday courses?

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http://www.tahoemountainschool.com/courses/avalanche

Those ^^^ all look like F-Su or Sa-M to me. I think the others will be pretty much the same, except perhaps during holidays (Xmas, "ski week"). But if you can get a group together I'm sure you can schedule something midweek.