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On This Day in 1980: Mount St. Helens Awakes!
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I remembers that.
One of my college roommates died in that.
RIP Bruce Faddis
i was 13 in eugene and portland was the big city off in the distance. i had no concept of where what and how big. i just remember the little vial of ash my mom brought back from pdx and reading about truman.
Wow that's unfortunateQuote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Those time lapse photos of the eruption still burn in my mind.
Makes me wonder about the Caldera in Yellow Stone.
the new nat geo issue on yellowstone has a pretty cool pull out map of the caldera.
altho I generally try not to think about it lol
Saw it from the Reed College campus on graduation day (year after my graduation). It looked like an enormous stalk of days old cauliflower poking up into the sky.
Also saw the Dead that spring a month later when MSH blew again with a wind blowing from the N/NE.; the encore was 'Fire On The Mountain'.
Leaving the Portland Coliseum coming down off loads of vitamin L and it was like it was snowing, but 55F.
Really, really weird night/morning. Grit in everything, walking miles in dust.
Heh I live about 15 miles from an area between two dormant volcanos that is bulging - like 8" in the last 20 years. My working theory is the ground is porous enough that major pressure will dissipate.:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by baby bear
Look at the bright side though - volcanic eruptions have a short term cooling effect
ETA - the experts think ejecta will stay within the wilderness area
http://www.livescience.com/17727-mag...on-uplift.html
most excellent story!Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
Damn. Reed was my first choice, and I got in, but I couldn't afford it. Got a baggie of ashes sent to me by my aunt. Never understood how she got it. No pun, but blew my mind as a five year old.
Not long ago PBS did a Doc on how the flora and fauna has recovered. Can't recall if it was trout or salmon that adapted to the changed river system. I never thought that possible.
That line from Jurassic Park is so true
Nature finds a way
That's the Toutle River and it's the native steelhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Not that the years of dredging near the Columbia confluence had anything to do with their recovery.
You guys worry about the Yellowstone caldera (and it's worth worrying about, a little), but nobody seems to pay much attention to the Cascadia Fault. Holy shit that thing is scary, and it's regular, documented, and overdue. I would personally gtfo if I lived west of I-5 in WA, OR or NoCal, also Vancouver Island is at risk bigtime. This thing is coming for sure. It could be a hundred years or it could be 10 minutes from now.
The Really Big One
I'm not normally a fearmongering type but this thing is real as a motherfucker.
That New Yorker article is great. I live 10 miles west of I-5 BTW
it's funny you say that bc 2 different people recently have suggested buying cat bondsQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
and yeah I agree about the inevitability of it sooner rather than later
I-5 is an arbitrary line, but if you're gonna be west of it you are better off being close to it, so good job on that at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by steepconcrete
"when"
glad to hear it though.
Not to mention Glacier Peak.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Peak
Just sitting there in the North Cascades waiting.....judging.....watching.
My daughter's number one choice right now for a University is U Vic... I;m not sure when to break it to her. Maybe before she applies? U BC, Van is on her list. U of T, St George and U NB, Fredericton seem like safer choices from her list.
@AK: Never heard of that mountain, thanks, cool to read. That thing may be ready to go as well, the dates are fairly compelling. Cascadia is on a less-than-300 year cycle and it's more than 300 years since it last broke loose. Honestly that thing scares the shit out of me.
UVM?Quote:
Originally Posted by riser3
I was just about to reply with that article. Scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
@bobby: If I had to prioritize I'd put the fault line way over the volcano, but I'm not always right, so...
Your good. Zombies hate volcanoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
If I lived around there I'd go full mental on an escape vehicle. OG Hummer, spare wheels on the roof rack, winch, extra fuel storage, water purifier, etc. etc.
It would be fun and hey it might work out.
Post video of you lifting wheels onto roofrack..Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
We'll all chip in a few $s for the hernia surgery.
Vancouver, Vancouver.......this is it..........
Seems like most everyone that reads that article freaks out. It's an interesting phenomenon in itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I'm in on the iceman herniates himself in jeans video pool.
When MSH erupted we were doing yard work and heard a big boom. I grew up north of Seattle in near Bryant. We thought it was just someone blowing stumps. My step dad was at Arlington airport working on his plane and he called and said MSH had just erupted and told us to get in the car and drive down to the airport. We got in his plane and flew to PDX and refueled and then spent about an hour just flying back and forth SW of the erupting mountain. It was awe inspiring. You could see huge house sized chunks of rock falling out of the plume and it towered over us, you couldn't see the top. My mom is a decent photographer and she got some good images that appeared in our local paper and on a couple post cards. One of the coolest things I've seen in my life.
I'd be way more worried about Rainier than Glacier, if Rainier blows Seattle and Tacoma are most likely fucked from lahars and ash. Even if it's just a giant earthquake Tacoma could be fucked from a lahar.
She wants to go anywhere and everywhere but UVM.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Who said anything about me putting them up there?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Well then, pro tip, Wisconsin is a great school and super cheap compared to most for our-of-state. And Madison is an awesome town. Also I read that if you move to Texas 90 days before school starts you can get in-state tuition, and it's cheap. Graduate high school, move to Austin, score.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser3
That quote is burned into my brain..... From the USGS dude camped on the side of the mountain right? Jesus........Quote:
Originally Posted by philth
Canada is super cheap for her. I married a Canadian and had kids just so I could save on University. I just wish I could pay for all four years now while it is cheap. The only US school she is interested in is Mt. Holyoke. I can't afford that.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Back to May 18....
I think I post this every year somewhere, but here it is again. The eruption began one of the most memorable few weeks of my life.
I lived and went to school in Ellensburg, WA at the time; directly in the path of the ash cloud. I was the nighttime weekday DJ on the local radio station and that day my room mate was doing the Sunday morning shift and called to tell me what had happened.
I went out on my west-facing front porch and saw a line of pure black sky coming toward me as far as I could see in any direction. It was pretty crazy. Within a few hours it was like night in our town. The big difference being that you could hear the tiny airborne particles hissing on the reasonably new spring leaves and grass.
Over the next two weeks our radio station became the clearinghouse for pretty much everything that went on in town. We went from being on air 18 hours a day to 24, all devoted to eruption related stuff. Ash was everywhere. Phones were down, tv was down, no one wanted to drive, trucks couldn't deliver stock to grocery stores, authorities were saying we shouldn't go outside or breathe without a mask and so on.
It was questionably OK to drive (car damage), and people had gone temporarily missing due to communication infrastructure not working. Radio waves still got through though, and people would come into the station where we were all working 12 hours a day, asking us to broadcast messages to loved ones who couldn't be otherwise reached, and we managed to connect a lot of folks who were worried about each other.
The townsfolk brought us food, drink, and company all day long and in the middle of the night because we were the only voices everyone could hear and we were fucking hungry. It was a remarkable thing to be a part of, and an extraordinary example of a community rallying forces in the face of adversity.
After a couple of weeks things got back to mostly normal and the station went back to normal operations, but the rest of the summer and really another year or so we lived with the impact of that eruption. Fine grey dust was everywhere, all the time, and covered everything. The trees and plants upon which the ash had hissed were all killed or stunted, and few if any flowers bloomed. Leaves were curled and small. Summer was dusty, colorless and just felt strange.
It was really something.
Granted I just had a daughter graduate from there last Saturday and am prejudiced but Wisconsin is awesome, it's probably not even on your daughter's radar, so do yourself a favor and make sure she knows about it. It was an A+ experience for both her and us, I would highly recommend it to anyone. Topnotch education in a fun environment for short money, beat that.
Yeah, but there're no volcanos dood.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
True true. Sorry. Got a little derailed there with all the crazy talk of riser sending his kid to C-eh? for college.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
It isn't the earthquake and tsunami that are scary, it's how unprepared we are for it. The Oregon Resilience Plan outlines the consequences pretty well, but the short version is that basic services on the Oregon Coast will be out of service for 6 months-3 years. Water, power, roads, healthcare facilities etc. The Willamette Valley: 1month to 18months, maybe up to 3 years for some water supplies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
Comparable events occurred in Chile and Japan (Tohoku) and they were able to restore many, many services outside the tsunami zone to 90% within weeks. Phones, power, water, etc all back online because we know how to deal with earthquakes for the most part. It isn't an event that is impossible to prepare for, we just need to get moving on upgrading infrastructure, changing codes, etc.
50 year time frame probabilities are ~35-40% chance an M8.8-9.0 affects N California and S Oregon and ~15-20% that the whole fault unzips and effects the entire PNW.
If it happens soon, it will be a good time to be a contractor.
Exactly. That was the part of the article that really hit home.Quote:
Originally Posted by char_