April Forum Updates

Yes - we understand that you want SPAM Issues fixed. And we continue to work on that, however we are releasing a list of updates in the forum today.

1. Sidebar updates to standardize ad units and added additional value content widgets which include:

• TR Pick (currently highlighted trip report from The Stash)
• Stash Pick (currently highlighted content from The Stash)
• Photo Pick (currently highlighted photo from The Stash)
• Popular Content from the main TGR site
• Stash Upload Widget

2. Sticky navigation. If you scroll back up from far down the page the black bar utility nav will pop back in and you will be able to navigate within the forum categories drop down at any point on a page. This was a request of members when we launched the initial updates last summer.

3. Google reCAPTCHA on registration form to help with SPAM efforts

4. Slide-up to introduce forum members to their Stash Profile on homepage

5. Removed old forum profiles for the new Stash profile pages

6. Set the default theme to the white version. You can switch between the white and blue versions by the drop down box at the bottom of the forums.

Updates are still in progress...

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Originally Posted by tgrweb

Yes - we understand that you want SPAM Issues fixed. And we continue to work on that, however we are releasing a list of updates in the forum today.

1. Widened logged in sidebar to standardize ad units and added additional value content widgets which include:

• TR Pick (currently highlighted trip report from The Stash)
• Stash Pick (currently highlighted content from The Stash)
• Photo Pick (currently highlighted photo from The Stash)
• Popular Content from the main TGR site
• Stash Upload Widget

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Annoying. Not value added. I care about the page I'm reading in the forums, if I gave a shit about the stuff in the Stash I would go there.

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2. Sticky navigation. If you scroll back up from far down the page the black bar utility nav will pop back in and you will be able to navigate within the forum categories drop down at any point on a page. This was a request of members when we launched the initial updates last summer.

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Doesn't work for me. Not a bad thing, since I have a "Home" button on my keyboard that magically takes me back to the top of the page anytime I want.

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3. Google reCAPTCHA on registration form

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A good update. Thanks!

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4. Slide-up to introduce forum members to their Stash Profile

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Has anyone on here actually said they want or need the Stash? Pretty sure that's a no.

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5. Removed old forum profiles for the new Stash profile pages

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See my response to #4.

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6. Set the default theme to the white version. You can switch between the white and blue versions by the drop down box at the bottom of the forums.

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This one is sure to get some bitching, but I prefer the white theme, so fine with me.

Using Chrome on a PC -

The white header bar is huge. The black sidebar is even huger. The actual content on the page -- i.e. the stuff I want to read -- is now roughly only 2/3 of my entire screen.

In other words, it looks crappy.

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Using Chrome on a PC -

The white header bar is huge. The black sidebar is even huger. The actual content on the page -- i.e. the stuff I want to read -- is now roughly only 2/3 of my entire screen.

In other words, it looks crappy.

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The floating top bar is working for me now and I agree with this.

updated all the navigation links to go to the live site instead of testing site...sorry for the confusion.

Floating top bar sucks ass. Please remove it.

As does the update "my stash" pop up. Please also remove that.

This what you get when you click for the latest post

Chrome on Mac

Attachment 166704

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Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Floating top bar sucks ass. Please remove it.

As does the update "my stash" pop up. Please also remove that.

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Your "updates" suck. Stash pop up will make me avoid this site. Content we clicked on this website to visit- only 2/3 of page as stated above.

So far I've been reading on my 20" monitor at work. Annoying, but not terrible.

Dreading going to the Macbook at home.

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Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Floating top bar sucks ass. Please remove it.

As does the update "my stash" pop up. Please also remove that.

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AdBlocker....

Blocked element:
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id="navigation" >

Blocked element:
<DIV
class="widget_content blockbody floatcontainer" >

It leaves tons of dead white space on the page, but at least the distraction is gone. Including the TGR logo in the header and the floating bars. I can now view content in the full height of my screen.

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Originally Posted by nest

Your "updates" suck. Stash pop up will make me avoid this site. Content we clicked on this website to visit- only 2/3 of page as stated above.

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STFU you fucking jong you'll stick around for the SUPing forum and like it.

This Stash sidebar and pop up sucks.

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Originally Posted by LightRanger

So far I've been reading on my 20" monitor at work. Annoying, but not terrible.

Dreading going to the Macbook at home.

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Yeah, I gotta add that I'm on 24" widescreen monitors both at work and at home. That makes the forum *useable* with the new giant-ass sidebar and such. God forbid I was still using my 17" monitor that I just replaced a couple weeks ago. The forum would be completely fucking unreadable on that thing.

The black sticky header that pops in and out is annoying as shit. Either have it there all of the time, or preferably, none of the time.

As people are saying in other threads... stop "fixing" shit that isn't broken, stop giving us bullshit that we don't want, and fix the things everyone has been asking for for fucking weeks or years.

I watch/buy your ski movies, and visit the forums. Understand that you gotta have ads to pay for the forum costs, that's fine. I couldn't give even a quarter of a shit about anything else that you put on your fucking website so stop trying to ram it up my ass.

Ok. On the 15" Macbook now.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Lost a good quarter of the right side of my screen. Plus a good chunk of the top.

Please. Stop. "Fixing." Things.

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Originally Posted by adrenalated

As people are saying in other threads... stop "fixing" shit that isn't broken, stop giving us bullshit that we don't want, and fix the things everyone has been asking for for fucking weeks or years.

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Clap clap clap!

WTF are you guys thinking. Can you suck harder?

I feel an eminent exodus, and you deserve every bit of it.

I clicked on the stash pop up hoping it would make it go away. Still pops up every time. Genius.

Are you getting ad revenue from that or is it just there to annoy us?

It gets more annoying each time I see it. Seems like super basic web design 101 not to have stupid shit like that. Does TGR hire the dumbest of the dumb?

Every single one of the updates I've experience so far makes me want to use this site less. Thanks guys

As stated, this Stash thing with the POPULAR THIS WEEK links and the big white bar at the top of the screen are not wanted or needed.

If I want to look at that stuff I can go find it. I want to read the forum, and I would like to read it in the full width and height of my screen.

Fix what's broken, not what works.

You've got to get rid of the damn floating header...

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Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

I feel an eminent exodus, and you deserve every bit of it.

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I was thinking the same thing. If this isn't fixed soon, I say we put up a poll and decided where we should move to next. Powder to TGR to ?

Idk how many people have to tell you guys to stop fucking around.

Please, stop...

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Originally Posted by Below Zero

I was thinking the same thing. If this isn't fixed soon, I say we put up a poll and decided where we should move to next. Powder to TGR to ?

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Biglines.com


They've made huge improvements in both the forums and web content. They've done a really good job of upgrading over there.

I check the content everyday. Its almost all skier/member based TR's with none if the "TGR is sooooooo hardcore we make the best bro brah movies anywhere" corporate shit bring shoved down your throat.

The forums there are a ghost town right now, but that makes it ripe for us to make it our own.


I'm not affiliated with them in any way. Just think it's got some good ski dudes running it.

idk what the stash is, and I don't care. I don't think I'm alone in that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNk6-0rDdto

Agreed, makes me want to stop looking at this site.

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Originally Posted by iscariot

The forums there are a ghost town right now, but that makes it ripe for us to make it our own.

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Wow, you weren't kidding. They only have one section called "Smack Talk". I'm registered now.

Spam overlords, tapatalk, difficulty embedding images and video, search function, NSFW bullshit, server room air conditioning, ever more sub forums....

And you guys decide to waste time doing this bullshit?

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Wow, you weren't kidding. They only have one section called "Smack Talk". I'm registered now.

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Yah but they'll add more as it grows. Its been around for a long time. Was popular back in the early 2000's.

Then they got too advertise-y and tgr was a cool place back then, so people migrated.

Now biglines has gone back to user driven content and TR's , and a user based forum simplicity.

If you want to migrate, that's the place to go. It has what we need. And if you email the guys who run it, regarding say adding a biking forum or something, or any other questions, they respond right away, and do what they can.


They keep it simple and uncluttered, ya know, like tgr was 5 years ago.

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Yah but they'll add more as it grows. Its been around for a long time. Was popular back in the early 2000's.

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Yeah, I remember. There were always photo links from biglines on TGR.

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Originally Posted by iscariot

Biglines.com


They've made huge improvements in both the forums and web content. They've done a really good job of upgrading over there.

I check the content everyday. Its almost all skier/member based TR's with none if the "TGR is sooooooo hardcore we make the best bro brah movies anywhere" corporate shit bring shoved down your throat.

The forums there are a ghost town right now, but that makes it ripe for us to make it our own.


I'm not affiliated with them in any way. Just think it's got some good ski dudes running it.

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Interesting- will check it out. This shit is unbearable.

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Originally Posted by neck beard

It leaves tons of dead white space on the page, but at least the distraction is gone. Including the TGR logo in the header and the floating bars. I can now view content in the full height of my screen.

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I'd rather not have to have dead white space.... or the fucking useless ads.

I'm not going to add the usual criticism, because enough people are doing that already. And clearly you have motives behind these changes, thinking (I guess) that if you just convince enough people to buy in to your "community", you'll have something worthwhile. But you do seem blinded by those thoughts, it sometimes seems like you guys are so insular in your decision making when it comes to this place that you've lost sight of the fact that while it is your site to do with as you please, there are a lot of members here that mean something to this place, and that in one sense we're your customers, and you're not listening to your customers AT ALL. IOW, you already have a community that you're ignoring as you try to create the "TGR Community". And that's a path taken at your own peril.

I just created an account over there. It's beyond a ghost town right now, not even like it used to have activity on their boards...

TGR web guys - why can't you just revert this forum to the basic vBulletin style, and stop fucking around with it?

Here's some examples of vBulletin forums that are legible, easy to navigate, and -- VERY IMPORTANT -- have not been altered from the basic style:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/

While I think Expedition Portal has too many sub-forums, that's the only real criticism I have of its organization.

If you still feel the need to fuck around with colors/headers/footers/sidebars/ whatever other shit that I now have to figure out ways to work around, take a look at Epic Ski -- at least it's still legible:

http://www.epicski.com/f/

White header is thieving/height sucks in everything but 16/9

interface is to geared towards 16/9 profile in general

but who am i to bitch
what's the dominant aperture these dayss

i just checked out biglines.com forum.... TGR - check out their floating header. Barely noticeable, but there if you need it.

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

TGR web guys - why can't you just revert this forum to the basic vBulletin style, and stop fucking around with it?

Here's some examples of vBulletin forums that are legible, easy to navigate, and -- VERY IMPORTANT -- have not been altered from the basic style:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/

While I think Expedition Portal has too many sub-forums, that's the only real criticism I have of its organization.

If you still feel the need to fuck around with colors/headers/footers/sidebars/ whatever other shit that I now have to figure out ways to work around, take a look at Epic Ski -- at least it's still legible:

http://www.epicski.com/f/

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Or, how about ADV? It has a bazillion more members/posts/views than TGR and is impeccably clean, from an interface aspect.

http://advrider.com/forums/search.php?searchid=43279358

Hey, just figured out a workaround --

At the bottom of the page, on the drop-down menu that lets you pick the styles -- select "TGR Mobile" -- and the header and useless "stash" shit goes away.

hey, that's not half-bad.