Sounds interdasting, fkg ugly color.
http://dirtragmag.com/first-ride-the...-nomad-carbon/
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Sounds interdasting, fkg ugly color.
http://dirtragmag.com/first-ride-the...-nomad-carbon/
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http://vimeo.com/91181466
Oh well.
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The bike looks sweet, the color scheme is way too trendy for me. Price? WTF!?!? And if I spend that kind of $ I don't want a bike that will look outdated in two years because it has such a trendy paint scheme.
Even so, it looks like fun.
Well in true Miami vice tradition, there IS also a stylish black one.
Seems like Santa Cruz and Specialized are trying to see who can produce a more overpriced bike.
I ordered a blue one to replace my Enduro that was stolen. It should be here mid May. I'm real excited to give er' a gander.
wowzee wow wow. I mean, I love those colors but I have a vageeeen
It really is crazy how much they cost vs other excellent carbon bikes though
I like the colors?
Bet it's a fun ride. Want to hear more about how it climbs.
That bike would totally match tomac's shoes from the other thread..
That's a lot of hours behind my desk to get on one of those steeds
Curious. What carbon, tweener wheeled, 11 speed bike is not in the $6.5-8k range?Quote:
Originally Posted by baby bear
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^At Canadian msrp: Carbon Range 7.1, Trance Advanced SX
^^carbon trance advanced sx is 6700 usd, I think.
SC and Spesh are pushing the high end price boundaries (with the crazy-expensive carbon wheelsets on those models being the main factor), but most of their bikes are in line with other companies' pricing for similar models. It's the entire industry that's going batshit insane on pricing, not just one or two companies.
Sam must you open yourself up so much for me to comment on your vageen :biggrin: hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
They're all up there depending on build I guess, but I think about my mojo that cost probably half that. but then again I used a fork we already had, yada yada so maybe it just seemed cheaper. always blows my mind to go into Hoback sports and see a $10k bike though. I'm usually an unabashed gear whore (I believe Beaterid once asked me why I was so obsessed with carbon) but I really couldn't see myself throwing down for that. But those colors could change it for me.....Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
up here retail is CAD $5699.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esses
You can also get a carbon Norco Range (2x10) for CAD $4135.
Sorry to derail the thread but this is my point.
Back on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pegleg
SC needs to do build a single pivot, aluminum version. A Bullet V2
You're funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
I'm curious where the industry is taking biking. Is the 180mm travel rig dead? I love the way these "enduro" bikes ride, it's awesome but they a very expensive and if they are used to their full potential they will break down quickly or at least the wheels and other parts likely will. I still really like having a burly 180mm travel rig that can be pedaled and take the abuse of old school steep dh trails with some hucking. Is a rig like the Nomad an answer? I'm sure it can handle some dh but for how long? I can't justify buying true dh race bike, we don't have enough of that around here so I enjoy a more well rounded bike but I'm afraid that in a couple of years when/if I have any $ the industry will no longer be making sweet 7 inch travel "freeride" bikes.
Plenty of Freeride-esque bikes still around. Transition TR250 used, or the new TR 500 with the 180 mm build is still there.... although, as I look for more of them on various bike websites, there are a significant amount less of them as were around a few years ago.
…and this is exactly what the bike industry wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaisingArizona
Yep. Unfortunately I can't afford that though. My Specialized Stumpy Evo is starting to fall apart. The bike absolutely rips but it seems the parts don't match the ability of the bike. The Enduro Evo looks perfect for the more gnarly trails we have here but I'm worried that it or some version of it will stop being produced in the next few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esses
I'm not saying you're wrong, but how many 7" bikes have ever had halfway decent uphill manners? I've known people to put a righteous beating on a Nomad; if there ever was a frame that you can do long xc rides on then take to the bike park, that might be the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaisingArizona
You are right, my Turner Highline pretty much sucks at climbing but with the technology now I would think it's getting better. In a few years when I'm in the market for a new bike I was hoping to get a bike that I can pedal but it doesn't have to perform like an xc bike, I have a bike for that and I always will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gone Skiing
The problem here is that we only have a handful of shuttle trails for dh riding, I have grown to dislike doing shuttles all day and I enjoy pedaling a big bike up to ride the more aggressive trails so a dh race bike is too much and the enduro bikes may be too little. Maybe beefing up an enduro 165mm travel bike would be ok? I'm still thinking I want a little bit more but maybe I'm wrong.
I have a 180 fork on my Mojo HD and it climbs fine and obviously great on the downhill too. I also have a mojo sl for xc but I find myself choosing the HD most of the time- unless there's a long long climb.
But I also will ride the HD up old pass to the lower pass trails and it's not terrible at all. Granted that is basically a road up so it's not as tech uphill pedaling but it's not bad by any means
Does that infringe any warranty conditions?Quote:
Originally Posted by baby bear
I bet the ht angle feels pretty sweet.
Nope- no warranty that I know of. FD- my boyfriend rides for ibis and they built his HD up with that fork (which he then later put on my HD) so should be hunky dory.
Yes the angle is great now too. I love DH but can be a real girl when it comes to big drops etc. I had a transition syren previously with a 160 fork and when I got on my HD I was easily already a point or two better/ more confident hitting shit
Freeride is dead.
Coming from a North Van guy this makes me sad. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by shirk
Well I was never a Freerider but I'd say it's for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaisingArizona
If you can't charge it on the current crop of 160mm slack/low enduro bikes it's not the bike holding you back.
Slap a Saint kit and dual ply tires on if you are worried about durability.
But but but CARBON. That shit is Space Age!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pegleg
There's no way in hell I'd do the things I've done on my 7" mini dh bikes on a 6lb carbon frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gone Skiing
I think the disappearance of the genre was because the majority of people buying sx trais, intense uzzis, vp frees etc. just wanted long travel trail bikes. Most people were never putting the beat down on them that they were capable of, there just weren't any other front derailleur 6-7" options.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaisingArizona
Where he's from that just means dorps to falt off a bunch of circus ladders. Even he knows the death of that is a good thing. :D
Hitting 40 foot jumps at 40mph in the desert and doing nac nacs will always live on!
SC V-10 carbon is sub 7lbs isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
The ones with the aluminum rear triangles definitely weren't. Not sure on the newer ones. I'd be surprised if those were in the 6s. I've held an unbuilt frame. No scale around but it didn't feel THAT light.Quote:
Originally Posted by shirk
edit:
Just found this
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Santa-C...irst-look.htmlQuote:
6.97 pounds (3.15 kg) with a Rock Shox Vivid air or 7.9 pounds (3.6 kg) with the coil-sprung Fox DHX RC4 shock (9.5 x 3.0-inch).
So yeah, I would have believed 8lbs with the coilover shock on the one I held. That's about 1.5-2lbs more material than most of the carbon trail frames I've seen that would be in this conversation.
I think there might be point where big bikes can get too light and lose there stability. I'm not claiming that as a fact but it's a thought that I have had.
Either way if you charge real hard on a lightish enduro rig it's not going to hold up as well as one of the older tank-ish fr bikes. I was just thinking that something more in between those two types of bikes might make sense. I know I can send my xc bike, it rides really good but I don't because I can't afford to be breaking shit every other ride.
I think Kidwoo is right tho, most people just don't need a true 7 inch mini dh bike so the industry has shifted it's focus.
I still want one! Maybe a little lighter and better at uphill travel then my current big bike but something that can still take hits.
And.......I think my idea of freeride might be a bit tamer than Kidwoo's.
I don't know man, I've ridden a 34lb V10........it's pretty friggin awesome. I'm not a fan of the suspension kinematics on those bikes but riding a full on dh rig that light is kinda nice. It does get knocked around a little more if you get lazy but it's also that much quicker to accelerate and redirect.
But hell if dh tracks keep getting more bike parked out and guys are getting medals on yeti trail bikes (graves) and 7" freeride bikes (Gwinn), maybe they'll stick around. I like the genre just because sometimes you need a tough bike, without necessarily needing an 8" travel 63 degree headangle bike. In a lot of cases a tough 7" bike really is the best (and fastest) tool for the job.
That said, wanna buy an sx trail? :D
Haha im fucking dying laughing!! "Fucking expensive!"Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
All I know is that my old 2006 Nomad with coil front and rear certainly feels like a DH bike, and I've totally beat the shit out of it. I have a 2009 frame to throw parts on with the push link when its days are finally numbered.
I'd be surprised if the new Nomad didn't fit the bill - pocket DH bike. I think that plus a 5" trail bike is the perfect combo - we also don't have a Whistler out here - not worth owning a true DH machine. Perfect bike for Moab, Winter Park, Keystone and a few other special areas out here.
Also, SC claimed their carbon Nomad was stronger than the V10 alu, before it was discontinued, fwiw.