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Coming up the pass from abasin today, saw a pretty good sized slide with tracks in and out of the top. Possibly skied out or triggered after the person got out of the way... Not sure, but couldn't get a picture.
As always, tracks in stupid places today.
What path?
Solo rider traversed (I mean seriously traversed) into the windloaded rocks near Shockleys, got out of it on skiers right, kept traversing and dropped down to the switchback. What a good example for our Level 1 students who were digging a pit on the same aspect at the same time.
Sadly, that was NOT the stupidest thing that happened on Loveland Pass today.
Its so easy to predict.
How was the snow/temps up there today? Hot ?
Tair reached -4C in the PM, but with solar inputs T0 reached 0C before noon on solar aspects. The slide was definitely HS with the recent windloading being the primary problem.
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Par for the course. Nothing new. Saw guys ski the main path there simultaneously without any gear.
There are ways to ski those bowls safely, but most can't figure it out.
Do tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
Funniest and most ridiculous award goes to the dude skiing out of the bottom of the pass with no pack, park skis, and.... No poles.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitchell333
Back seat as it gets.
Bethel from the top right through the obvious slide path. Solo.
Numerous tracks down the big south facing line opposite abasin (grandfather? Old man? Never remember names) ... Right through the corness at the top.
The Professor.
Now ^THAT is several orders of magnitude crazier than Shockleys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poop~Ghost
Looks like tough skiing. Lots of scouring with the only places holding snow as obvious windblown avy paths. How steep is the slope?
Loveland pass and no gear seem to go hand in hand. However, I actually saw someone sporting a float 32 last weekend and I almost lost control of my car, I was so astonished.
The saint of fools, drunks and little children offend works overtime on Loveland Pass...Quote:
Originally Posted by benkraj
Boy imagine if a maggot skied the same aspect and elevation, in remarkably thin and rotten avalanche conditions, on steep avy terrain, not 10 miles away on the same day as a large slide that killed someone...
they'd get called out just like the anonymous packless kid on Loveland Pass, right?
Or would we all say 'way to get after it'
If we're being that specific, care to share a link....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...O-3-March-2013Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
If you don't think that Tom (aka PappaG) has taken round after round of verbal abuse on TGR then you have checked in about once since you joined in 2008. Look up the 18 pages of beatings that Lindahl took when he posted his account of setting off a slide. People are extraordinarily opinionated about people's decision making around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
LOL - getting a pass on TGR is just laughable.
And the anonymous packless kids skiing backseat out of backcountry terrain without packs and poles are fucking LAUGHABLE. They're completely and utterly uninformed and ignorant.
My point is this - you are always panty twisting about people at loveland pass being so stupid skiing the "backcountry" without gear. Hell you're more likely to trigger a slide inbounds at Loveland than on the shit that most of those bozos are bonking. So who gives a fuck?
Why does it get you all bitch-ied up while you are mum in the face of genuine recklessness?
be careful out there today. Shit is popping left and right. Snow is getting hot quick in this gnar sun.
I think you do bring up a good point. I myself was one of the people with the 'way to get after it' mentality without an honest look at the conditions and as I wasn't there I wouldn't be able to judge their route and decision making. We all know conditions vary widely from day to day and region to region. Also comparing the snowpack in RMNP with Cameron is not good either. Those regions may be close as the crow flies, but the snow conditions and weather are vastly different. Someone skiing on Loveland pass with no gear isn't in the same conversation as the people you are referring to IMO. My guess is a lot of LP skiers are coming from keystone or abasin and have their buddies drop them off at the summit and pick them up on the way down. Those guys in RMNP were likely well prepared and hopefully did some evaluation of the snow in the area. That wasn't mentioned in the tr though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
You all remind me of the young men who swarmed over Montparnasse in the end of the good days, before Ezra turned into a crazed anti-semite and 35 francs would last a month. These young men would disembark at La Havre without knowing 3 words of French, getting pickpocketed and being easily defrauded on the exchange rate by street vendors and catching syphilis from the first girl who smiled at them. They spent their first 3 months in Paris alternately pissing and praying, and waiting on wires from home.
In month 4, they began smugly acting like they were born in a farmhouse in Brittany and they complained to anyone who would listen about this latest new wave of ghastly tourists from Kansas City and Pittsburgh.
But deep down they were just silly rubes from Iowa with syphilis and they knew it.
were they also crossing an avy path?
Here's a pic I took this pmAttachment 134116
So... new poster, overly defensive... it was you, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
Just a few miles away, same range, aspect and elevation as where a maggot skied. Where's your thread Poophead fuming at the stupidity?
https://avalanche.state.co.us/acc/ac...rep&acc_id=499
You dumb. Not sure what that link/accident has to do with this thread. And I wouldn't consider RMNP "just a few miles away" from LL pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
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Originally Posted by soups818
woooosh!
Fail, really no comparison between the two. That accident you linked to was on a northwest facing aspect, not involving skiers (rumor is it was a cornice break that caused internal injuries to the deceased climber) and also 3 weeks later. Not really comparable at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
Actually, after I think about it, the CAIC has the aspect wrong I think... Should be north or north east, not north west.
FAIL on your and CAIC's part. If this IS the Blitzen ridge that would be basically east or southeast depending on where it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmnpsplitter
http://peakmind.files.wordpress.com/...enroutemap.jpg
Check ur map skillz again dood. While that ridge runs basically southeast-northwest at the top and more southeast at the lower end the cornice break was off the northern side of the ridge at 12,800'. Which is more of northeast aspect, you could argue east but def not southeast which the Spire Couloir is.
Well then those guys were totally RAD and safe, cause they obviously were on such different terrain that the danger was likely low.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmnpsplitter
Apparently there is no variability in the co snowpack in both space and time. Amazing.
Basically in a bad year in CO on predominantly easterly facing, steep, rocky terrain above treeline, yes you have little variability in the deep slab instability in space and time. Depth Hoar predominates and your a moron if you are committing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by wendigo
But again my point is not to point out the obvious, but rather to compare and contract Poop's ranting about some boneheads at Loveland Pass skiing without packs on packed out terrain with his silence in the face of a maggot TRs on dangerous terrain in a bad avy year.
How about we settle with you're a moron.
No. You just dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick