Just picked up some Baker bibs over the summer and wondered if the bib pocket woould be a safe place to keep a beacon while touring. I'll have to work out the elastic strap for searches but.....Bad idea?
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Just picked up some Baker bibs over the summer and wondered if the bib pocket woould be a safe place to keep a beacon while touring. I'll have to work out the elastic strap for searches but.....Bad idea?
Why not use the harness as it was intended and designed to be used?
Not a problem at all. Just attach leash to suspenders.
Daheel, don't be da shitheel, what does your big head tell ya?
I put mine in my ski pants pocket.. (they are OR pants that actually have a pocket that is made to fit a beacon)
I figure if I get in a slide where my pants become separated from my body.. a beacon search isnt gonna help. I hate having stuff strapped to me.
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Rip, yeah I know you could "what if" this to death. However, what if... you grazed a tree branch while getting pushed around by a slide and it ripped your suit and...
Now of course you could be sarcastic and I did not detect it.
Bet that pocket also fits an Ipod, or a pack of smokes just dandy.
if you feel comfortable that it is secure and you will be able to get it out quickly in an emergency without making a mess, go for it.
Dunno about your specific uses, but several guides I know (and myself when the situation dictates) always keep their transceiver in an inner pocket (sometimes in the shell, or in an inner clothing layer). Main reason is that they wear a chest VHF radio harness (signal interference and harness x-over), and for ease of access for doing group checks.
yeah, the idea that a 1" plastic buckle on an external harness is more secure than the zippered pocket of a garment worn on your body is kinda weird. A pant leg pocket is susceptible to damage IMHO, but a chest pocket on a bib should be as good or better than the harness.
some discussion about this here, http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ants-bibs-HELP
..Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
yeah its more like a mesh pocket in a pocket. feels pretty secure and locked in. For as much as I hate extra shit strapped to me, i am willing to take that riskQuote:
Originally Posted by garyfromterrace
I thought this thread was about bacon in your bib pocket (to aid in searches for dogs who love.... BAAAACON!)
Also since I am usually the one carrying the other beacon for our group, having it in a pocket makes it easy access to get out and give to the person who is going to search for the person who got buried.
You? a beacon harness Nazi? Tell me it ain't so g!Quote:
Originally Posted by garyfromterrace
Plus carrying two beacons ensures you'll be dug up first in any multiple burial scenario?Quote:
Originally Posted by rip
I was taught "innermost layer". So, a fastex buckle under a bunch of other clothing. Beacons ain't the most robust things in the world; it also keeps them warmer. I guess if you are so dialed with rescuing that 2 seconds to unzip and extract the beacon is a big deal it's a big deal, me, I know a few seconds to clear the head produce better results. It's also because I don't always ski in studly bibs, light softshells without a pocket aren't conduciveQuote:
Originally Posted by jfost
nah we just bring 2 for the entire group. One for the first skier, one for the last.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
isnt that what everyone does?
Only for the YouTube lolz?Quote:
Originally Posted by rip
Do something dumb, profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
guess I'd point out the obvious that if you are sweeping a slide from above, on skis, make sure you can hold your beacon on the lanyard and ski reading it.
swisseuros comfortable with front trouser pocket that zips downward to close.
Bibs are probably fine. Any avalanche that will destroy your bibs would kill you anyway. The catch is to make sure you don't rip the pocket.
I've started putting my beacon in my pants pocket for the reason that I usually end up in a t shirt while skinning and don't trust an exposed harness to keep my beacon on me. Just a thought...
"Sometimes it's okay when someone finds my crotch before my airway, but not if I'm buried in an avalanche" - Craig Gordon, Utah Avalanche Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
This is why I wear my beacon in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
What type/brand of transceiver do you have???Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHeel
Tracker 1 1st genQuote:
Originally Posted by Hacksaw
Yeah, those had really bad holster/harnesses....Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHeel
Bingo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacksaw
I've thought the same thing, and though I have continued with the harness, I've certainly considered changing because I find myself hiking in base layers plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by josef
I laughed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rip
Avalanches can be brutal and cruel. Some years back I lost a partner in a slide. He was wearing his transceiver properly, buckled in with the provided harness under 2 layers of clothing. The transceiver was ripped from his body, carried 600 feet downslope from where he came to rest, and broken. So, sometimes it just doesn't matter.
Bib pocket? Yeah, I've done it, mostly for the reasons mentioned in previous posts. Namely being a sweathog who sheds layers on the uphill. I've ripped pants and coat skiing trees more than once. Hell, I've ripped my pants getting on the bus. Haven't ripped the belly pocket on bibs yet. So, outside pocket probably not the best idea.
In any case, you'd hate to have your partners searching for your beacon which is not buried where you are.
Today I put my Tracker 2 in the pocket of my MH pants with the lanyard on the D-ring inside the pocket. So much better than the harness. Will be doing this from now on unless someone convinces me that beacons in pockets are torn free more often than beacons in harnesses and that I can survive a slide violent enough to remove clothing.
I always keep bacon in my bib pocket.
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Originally Posted by pointemstraight
Is tele tips still down?Quote:
Originally Posted by iscariot
DaHeel, seriously, time for a fucking upgrade. I don't care where you put it.
aware of your surroundings much?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trace Hardslab
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We can only hope.....(_!_)Quote:
Originally Posted by travis
I think the leash is important for keeping beacon in my hands since a slide will happen in deep pow and don't want to drop it. But it's just my opinion. I think it' depends on pocket strength
Pieps says to carry your beacon in the harness or pants pocket (attached of course).
I tend to follow the manufacturers recs.
I know Cody Barnhill wears his in his bibs. In the end he's just another man, so whatever.