Have you skied it?
Has anyone skied it?
Loving the new graphics.
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Have you skied it?
Has anyone skied it?
Loving the new graphics.
I'm curious what folks have to say about woo 2.0 as well. I'm on a pair of 1.0? and love em, but I'm confused about all this tail rocker/stability talk. My understanding is that woo 1.0 has less tail splay than than the protest, however when I compare my woo to my protests there is definitely more tail splay on the woo, its plainly obvious. Anyone else actually have current protests and woos to verify?
So I to answer your question...no I haven't skied it. My guess is that it is very similar to the 1.0, which is VERY similar to the protest minus whatever percent float and whatever percent better for walking.
Whoa. Talk about timing.
Keith just got in touch with me yesterday and it sounds like he was getting a few pairs pressed. They might be ready today. But no, I haven't skied them. It's still dirt season.
But I'm pretty much vibrating with anticipation. I don't want to quote any numbers before he gets the pdf up. The rough idea is:
1) more tapered tip, IE: less squared off
2) tip contact point/wide point slightly more forward
3) more tail splay/rocker
It sure does look sweet. I like the look of the new tip, kind of like the ehp.
Yeah, those are looking good. What's the beta on getting them lighter. I remember some people in the Woo thread saying they were getting ones in the sub 9 pound range, with light top sheets and such. Can he go full carbon?
What's the new graphic look like?
Never mind, google works.
1+ the new graphic is sick!
I think mine from last year were about a cunt hair shy of 9lbs with the glass topsheet. Nothing special or particularly 'weight savings' about the layup.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRainey
Praying for 4lbs per ski Woo Twos.
I'll weigh them as soon as I can. A 'lighter than advertised' praxis ski isn't unheard of.....
4lbs may be pushing it but everyone involved in this project wants a bomber ski before a rando racer.
I'll post up the finished weight when I get them.
I just looked at the updated pic on the praxis site. New tip shape & top sheet look awesome!
yeah well.... I didn't want to be part of your gang anyway. So there.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
[8.5 a pair would be ok].
[[new top sheet is one of the best art topsheets I have seen]].
So how would the woo be different than my ON3P Billy Goats?
Have you looked at the dims? Really a completely different concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
Are you getting some big ones, or little ones? I'd be interested in both weights.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
I might be missing something, but this seems like the closest thing we'll get to an EHP replacement.
other than a few less mm underfoot, and a longer turn radius, they seem pretty similar to me. What did I miss exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
145mm tip versus 124mmm tip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
One is an evolved 5 point ski and one is evolved from a reverse sidecut with modifications to make it more skiable.
^^ Yup, well put. Now that the BG is incorporating RES (Reverse Elliptical Sidecut), it's worth saying clearly that the WooTest was the one evolved from the reverse sidecut ski (PowderBoards -> Protest -> WooTest). The BG evolved from the "fun" shaped skis -- even though the current model has a fairly long turn radius, it's not close to reverse sidecut (RES aside).
Love the graphic. The woo 2.0 will bring a new way of looking at touring skis I think. I have an OG and while I lust after the new 2.0 I feel privileged that I was in a small way part of the conversation that got the ball rolling on a consumer pushed product. I feel a huge brand loyalty towards praxis because of how you can beat on their skis and they just want to keep going. This years iteration of skis makes deciding on what I want to own even harder. The 196 protest is the best soft snow ski I have ever been on and have to tear them back from my friends when I let them have a go. The powboard is in a class by itself in the trees and makes you feel like god because the faster you go the faster they want to go. 4frnt lost an icon with the ehp and while the hoji is a new direction why change what is not broken. A new pair of protests are in the books for me but the 2011 has never let me down so seeing how the shorter Radius feels is exciting one never really looses that love for your fist pair of praxis skis. Keith is doing right by the ski community. Much luck on the coming year and deep turns for the praxis fanboys.
I am looking at the specifications page on the Praxis website and had a few questions. Tip/Tail Taper and Tip/Tail Splay are both in cm. Can someone explain to me what they are? Which correspond to Tip Rocker Length and Tail Rocker Length on the DPS website?
Also, has anyone seen any reviews of the Yeti?
The splay is the length of the rocker, so that should correspond to the rocker length on the DPS website. Everything in between is the camber contact length. The tip splay plus tail splay plus camber contact length should add up to the length of the ski.
The taper is how far back from the tip/tail the widest portion of the ski lies. Everything in between is the side cut length. The tip taper plus tail taper plus side cut length adds up to the length of the ski.
docknowswhatsup :D
8.75 bitches!!!!!!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hohes
That's with the plastic, some masking tape with notes and a praxis sticker in the shrink wrap. I knew that 9.5 would end up being high.
What length is that, K?
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Originally Posted by kidwoo
187 cenitmicmeters
I'm guessing that's with the stock flex. What's the stiffness like?
Just got a mail from Keith. The graphics change was done after they where done pressing the production run. My med/stiff taxicab wootwos are shipping on monday wohoo!
It's a 'medium +'Quote:
Originally Posted by JRainey
I'd say that's pretty accurate just hand flexing them.
HTF do a pair of 187 WooTests with 113mm waist end up LIGHTER than my 192 Yetis with a 94mm waist?Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
Either you have an optimistic scale or I got hosed.
4 lb 7 oz each for my woo 1.0 @ 187cm.
As you mentioned in the praxis thread, their weights are exactly even as well.
My Woo 1.0 are 4 lb 8 oz per ski at 187 cm/stiff/ultralight topsheet
Im super stoked for this ski, got a pair coming. Lets post some pics. I have powder boards, protests, and replacing my ehp touring rig with the woo 2.0. Praxis skis are bomber.. USA
Interlesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
or you have a scale that hates youQuote:
Originally Posted by Spats
I weighed my wootests from last year on two different scales and they were almost identical (the scale at praxis, and the mail scale at my office). I only weighed my new ones at praxis but I can verify them at work.
You guys usually get snow before us so you and anyone in CO who gets a pair............we're countin on ya :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cravenmoorehed
Speak up!
Just an update on weights. swapped some bindings tonight and reweighed the skis on my postal scale. Bare 187 wootests with binding freemdom inserts are 2022g and 2033g respectively per ski. or ~4lb 7.3oz. stiff/ultralight topsheet
That's not too shabby, especially considering the size of the ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by bouguer
Anyone skied the Hoji 187 and Woo (2) 187?
For their differences, are these skis about the same type of skiing?
Hohes, I should get time on both this winter, but can't say anything until the snow flies.
New Woo 2.0s arrived yesterday. Damn they're sexy.
I don't have a scale but they feel pretty light for the size (187s). I wouldn't doubt the shade under 9 lbs others are touting above. Mine are medium flex and still pretty damn stout. The stiffer layups must be f'in stiff.
The tips/tails are rounded and very low profile. Minimal camber, 1 mm max. My protests have more camber. Compared to my protests from last year the Woos have more tail splay (but about the same amount of tail rise). Widest point in the tip is definitely a few inches further forward on the woos compared to the protests.
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Protests on the right, Woos on the left:
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